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Also have a tendency to put you back in Kubiaks doghouse. I wouldn't be too surprised if they just cut him outright after all the talk about how good the UDFA's look
That would be a colossal failure by the organization. Tate, when/if healthy, is starter material.
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That would be a colossal failure by the organization. Tate, when/if healthy, is starter material.
Last year of his rookie contract and I would guess they make no attempts to resign him
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All i have to say is Nuk catches everything. He and Schaub seem to have jelled nicely. I can't wait till next Saturday to watch him at live game speed. He was up against JJo and uses his hands well to get separation.
If you wait until next Saturday I think you will have missed the game (unless you're recording it) since we play next Friday night. IJS
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Last year of his rookie contract and I would guess they make no attempts to resign him
If you said he'd be traded, I might be willing to listen to you, but at this point we know little to nothing about the seriousness of the injury, and when healthy, Tate's better than anyone else they're going to be able to add to the roster, plus he's cheap this season at only $575,000.

Trades are a rare occurence in the NFL, so I'd guess that even that's unlikely, but there's no way he gets cut.
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If you said he'd be traded, I might be willing to listen to you, but at this point we know little to nothing about the seriousness of the injury, and when healthy, Tate's better than anyone else they're going to be able to add to the roster, plus he's cheap this season at only $575,000.

Trades are a rare occurence in the NFL, so I'd guess that even that's unlikely, but there's no way he gets cut.
I too doubt he gets cut next year, but that's not the same as not getting real with a contract offer, so in effect it becomes a cut. They don't have to cut him. They will let him test the market, and if he gets much of an offer, I suspect they will let him walk. A trade for an injury prone backup RB? That's not happening.
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I just came across something I didn't know. Darryl Sharpton is the nephew of Al Sharpton. Just found it interesting. But everyone probably except me knew that. Carry on.......
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Anybody else working at LG besides Smith and the Q man ?
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GJ cont'd: dump the ball off to me, I'll catch it, and do it when I need to.

GJ: I wouldn't mind some flares. Right now I'm just concentrating on my role. Go in there & do the dirty work. When they dump the ball off..

JB: Does Greg Jones want to appear on the stat line & see some flares in this offense?

GJ: (While laughing) No question, man. That's why I'm here. If I didn't think so I wouldn't be here.

JB: We saw what Foster has done w/ a FB & Adrian Peterson special season behind a fullback, can you take Arian to the next level?

GJ cont'd: We've got to be on the same page. I've got to know what they're thinking about on certain running plays.

GJ: Of course, that's 1 of the keys. Like the O-line has to build chemistry. You've got to practice, you've got to take the reps.

JB: There's not much talk about the chemistry that a new FB needs to build with his HBs in a zone scheme. Is it important?

GJ cont': In Jacksonville we went downhill & here it's more zone concept. Arian is more of a slasher Maurice is a more downhill power runner

Greg Jones: Only difference is the scheme, here. You know it's a whole lot different scheme then what we had in Jacksonville.

Jayson: Biggest difference in blocking for MoJo & for Arian Foster?

Spoke with Greg Jones for a quick minute today. Here are just a few of his answers.


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VJ cont': and you're by yourself off a lot, even in some zones & how he's played..I'll take him top 20, no doubt.

VJ: He's my guy, I'll take him there, I'll take him anywhere. For what we do, he's played very well, as much man as we play in this defense

JB: Where would you rank Kareem Jackson amongst the top CBs in the league? Top 20, now?

VJ cont': He (Posey) started for us in the playoffs. It helps both sides. When he gets Posey back it's going to be hard to beat that WR core

VJ cont'd: That's encouraging. It helps those guys get better. Last yr Posey going against J-Jo 1/2 the season, then going up to the varsity

VJ: All the time. You watch Hop go against J-Jo the 1st week & J-Jo is all over him & you watch Hop a day ago make some plays against J-Jo.

JB: Have you talked to (Larry) Kirksey (WR coach) about how much this secondary is helping this young receivers' group?

VJ cont'd: You can't do that. Also, his instincts help him make plays so it's a fine line between his instincts being helpful or harmful.

VJ: Your instincts say go here and your reads say you should be there. That's 1 thing he has to work on, his instincts overriding his reads.

VJ: I like him everywhere. His instincts is 1 thing that makes him a great player, but in the NFL that can also cost you to give up plays.

JB: Do you only like Swearinger in the box or are you comfortable with him out in centerfield?

VJ cont'd: he (DJ) studies, the rest is just gravy.

VJ cont'd: He's (DJ) playing 2 positions & he's made a total of 5 errors the whole camp. What's impressive is his football IQ & the way....

VJ: His football IQ. Everyone sees the bravado, the confidence, but I tell you what, the kid knows what he's doing.

JB: I've never seen a rookie carry himself like Swearinger. How has he impressed you so far?

VJ cont'd: that's going to help. Having those 2 players & those young guys covering tight ends better.

VJ cont'd: I mean really have those 2 guys back in dime is really going to be a tweak. Having DJ Swearinger & Keo, who can really cover TEs.

VJ: The tweak could be having Ed as our middle safety, that's a tweak and Cushing as our cover backer, that's going to be a tweak.

JB: I've talked a lot about the Dime coverage from the Patriots games. Are you looking to tweak something or has that already happened?

VJ cont'd: He came in about 203, 204. That 13 pounds has made him a lot faster down the field.

VJ cont'd: Which is important in this league if you're going to play a long time. He's dropped his weight to 190. Which has helped him.

VJ: Now we are. He was obviously a great nickel in college & that's where we saw him playing early, but now he's becoming an outside corner.

JB: Seemed to me that he had the ability to play inside & outside coming out of the U. Are you seeing that from him?

VJ cont'd: He had some games in the slot where he was very, very impressive, Tennessee, both Indy games.

VJ: His first game he handled very well. The playoff game is where he kind of struggled against Wes. He's a tough cover, along w/ Tom.

JB: How did he handle that first start vs Wes Welker?

VJ: He's (Harris) had the best camp so far out of all DBs, in my opinion as far as consistency & making the most plays. He can read routes.

Jayson: Brandon Harris seems to be playing with a lot more confidence.

VJ cont'd... (Roc) He's tough, he's smart. He's had a really good camp this last week.

VJ cont'd... He (Roc) always plays better later. He's a good little player. Really in his 2nd yr cause he missed his whole 1st year.

Vance Joseph: The last 3 days he's really played well. Roc's the kind of player, he needs the time to get his footwork & tech early in camp

Q: Seems as if the light went on for Roc (Carmichael) today, did you notice a difference?

Quick notes from today's talk with Texans' DB coach, Vance Joseph. This guy will be a DC soon. Check him out on the postgame show this year

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damn that was confusing, i didnt realize the interview was from the bottom up haha thats why it made no sense.
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Looks like Schiltz (TE) has joined the Oh My Hammy group.
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Looks like Schiltz (TE) has joined the Oh My Hammy group.
Is it the Texas heat claiming all these guys?
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Is it the Texas heat claiming all these guys?
worked in the field in the hot sun/cold winters 17 hours a day for 345 days a year, and it will sure do it to you. We've already had 8 heat strokes this year, thank god i'm in the office now.
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worked in the field in the hot sun/cold winters 17 hours a day for 345 days a year, and it will sure do it to you. We've already had 8 heat strokes this year, thank god i'm in the office now.
Certainly heat could be ONE factor. However..............the truth is that heat cramps have previously been known as miners cramps and fireman's cramps, and they have historically been thought to be a result of dehydration and losses in sodium through sweating.

Cramps are strong involuntary muscular contractions which are usually short-lived and release on their own. They can be quite painful and occur most frequently in the Gastrocnemius (calf) and hamstrings. Actually heat and gently stretching the muscle can help to relax a cramp.

Cramps can occur at rest or during activity in any environment. Therefore the old hypothesis that cramps are due to dehydration and a lack of sodium and other electrolytes lacks scientific back-up. Current research has shown no link between high temperature and the development of cramps. The current thought on the cause of cramps is alterations in spinal neural reflex activity which is caused by FATIQUE and is more common and more intense in some than others.

The term heat cramps is rapidly falling out of favor due to the lack of scientific evidence to support it. Conditioning deficiencies as a cause has essentially taken its place.



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With first contact practices being ~7-8 months following their last for most players, makes me believe that players may be taking their conditioning for their more pussified non-contact mini-camps and OTAs less seriously .....and may be held by coaches and trainers to lesser standards to come down to the lower requirements than necessary for the old full-padded contact off season activities.
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This is just another reason to get used to a more resistant target contact training. I had the opportunity to take care and befriend a number of Houston Oilers. I remember them talking about the fact that they HAD to stay in shape year around just to stay up with TC. They knew what to expect. TCs in those days were described as the worst weeks of their lives...........sometimes ALL day and there were NO DAYS OFF. Keep in mind that there were essentially no climate controlled fields except the Astrodome. (The Oilers had the Astrodome, but they were never allowed to practice in them for TC.) Specifically many teams were made to practice in the mid day sun/heat.......no shade allowed. Outdoor practices were never called off for rain or snow. And what they emphasized was that there were no multi-million dollar guaranteed contracts. If you weren't prepared for TC............you didn't have a job!.........and that included ALL of what would today be considered the "prima donna" vets.

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damn that was confusing, i didnt realize the interview was from the bottom up haha thats why it made no sense.
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...the truth is that heat cramps... have historically been thought to be a result of dehydration and losses in sodium through sweating.
I remember taking handfulls of those yellow/orange salt pills for two-a-days. No telling how much of that crap I ingested on the above belief.
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i can tell ya gatorade is the worst thing you can drink, we only allow 1 bottle of gatorade to 4 bottles of water. The Gatorade gives you salts that you need but if its all you drink it will destroy you.
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i can tell ya gatorade is the worst thing you can drink, we only allow 1 bottle of gatorade to 4 bottles of water. The Gatorade gives you salts that you need but if its all you drink it will destroy you.
I like very diluted Gatorade. Water alone isn't really good enough for high end athletes. That or water and pickle juice.
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