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Old 07-31-2013   #161
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I'm ok with the signing. If Sharpton stays healthy, we probably won't see much of Mays anyway.

If I'm wrong, he starts, & he's a big part of what our defense does... we make out pretty good.
I watched all the games he played last year and another one in 2011.

Too many missed tackles (one per game on the average), and he blew his coverage assignment 4 times in 5 games. 2 led directly to a TD (think of the Patriots game); one could have been a TD, but the QB looked the other way first, and one was a catch that the safety made the tackle. He took bad angles on several plays (again, average about one per game) that allowed the RB to get past him.

If they can correct theses mistakes then he has a chance to compete for a job; but even then, there's no guarantee that he can beat Sharpton. Mays is not strong by any mean. If he can't get off the blocker by using his hands well or avoiding him with his quickness, he got swallowed up somewhat easily. The Patriots' linemen, in particular, made him look like a little bug.
Maybe the injury affected his plays, I don't know.
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I watched all the games he played last year and another one in 2011.

Too many missed tackles (one per game on the average), and he blew his coverage assignment 4 times in 5 games. 2 led directly to a TD (think of the Patriots game); one could have been a TD, but the QB looked the other way first, and one was a catch that the safety made the tackle. He took bad angles on several plays (again, average about one per game) that allowed the RB to get past him.

If they can correct theses mistakes then he has a chance to compete for a job; but even then, there's no guarantee that he can beat Sharpton. Mays is not strong by any mean. If he can't get off the blocker by using his hands well or avoiding him with his quickness, he got swallowed up somewhat easily. The Patriots' linemen, in particular, made him look like a little bug.
Maybe the injury affected his plays, I don't know.
Mirrors what I've seen on pony forums, hence the nickname Idiot Cannonball.

Said he was always making bad decisions and a liability in coverage, but can blow a player up occasionally. Still better than Sharpton in the tub, though.
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If they can correct theses mistakes then he has a chance to compete for a job; but even then, there's no guarantee that he can beat Sharpton.
Agree. Don't count Sharpton out yet. His play is strong when he's healthy.
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Agree. Don't count Sharpton out yet. His play is strong when he's healthy.
When Healthy is the key word...
Seeing how he just got a groin injury....
I hope its not that serious
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I haven't even seen Sharpton play enough to evaluate him...I can barely even remember what he looks like out there on the field....

If Sharpton can get healthy and start playing soon...Ok...Cross your fingers and good luck..

If this crap lingers...I'd cut him. I'd rather carry a young guy with promise that I didn't want to mess around with trying to PS them than carry someone that gets injured this often.
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If this crap lingers...I'd cut him. I'd rather carry a young guy with promise that I didn't want to mess around with trying to PS them than carry someone that gets injured this often.
Yeah. You could give that roster spot to a promising young talent, then put another developmental type on your PS, then if push comes to shove, you can always resign Shartpon at a later date. There is absolutely nothing on him that would make another NFL team raise their ears.
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bb, I see the "lol" thingy so "not sure if serious"?

Camp reviews have been surprisingly positive (to some) about Earl Mitchell and all the cats behind him.

So are you serious or are we "lol-ing"?

Just axin'.
I'm just not confident in any on the roster. I am hopeful for Chris Jones. Sure hope I am wrong on the rest.
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I really like that we added Mays. I was hopeful when I saw that he was released but didn't think signing him was possible. He'll be a good addition to the team.
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OK, so I watched some more Broncos games besides the 2012 season, I had finished with week 5 of the 2011 season. I know some of you hope to see a good player to pair with Cushing; all I can say is that if he's good, the Broncos would have retained him. Perhaps he showed better later on in the year; I haven't gotten that far yet, so I can't comment on them games.

For the first five games; he didn't play a whole lot in four of them.
Mays was like a rotational player that was not in the lineup much in nickel and dime situation. He was so-so in those games; the term non-descript probably suits him the best.

The game he saw the most playing time was against the Packers. He showed up around the ball on five or six plays, which sounds good, but all except one was unblocked... And as Wade had said, you aren't doing nothing really when you have a free path to the play.

It could still make for a good game, except that Mays also missed five tackles, something I haven't seen before; have you?

And no, after watching ten games, there's no indication that he's a decent blitzer either; he was hardly used in that capacity.
I still have eleven games to go; I can't say I can come to a definite conclusion yet.
You can't blame me for not being all hyped up about the signing, a vet minimum at that.
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The game he saw the most playing time was against the Packers. He showed up around the ball on five or six plays, which sounds good, but all except one was unblocked... And as Wade had said, you aren't doing nothing really when you have a free path to the play.

It could still make for a good game, except that Mays also missed five tackles, something I haven't seen before; have you?
GB or SD? PFF shows Mays only took 25/72 snaps vs. GB with 2 missed tackles, but he took 48/78 snaps with 4 missed tackles vs. SD -- which is pretty bad, but...

PFF has him for 7 missed tackles in 2011 WC game vs. Steelers(68/73 snaps).
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I know some of you hope to see a good player to pair with Cushing; all I can say is that if he's good, the Broncos would have retained him.
1) try looking at film that caused the Broncos to give him a large contract and 2) Peyton wasn't eating up $20 mil per year of cap when they signed him. With a cap, sometimes you let go of players you want to keep.
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IMHO I see Joe Mays as just another guy. I don't think he's the answer to the Texans stopping the run up the middle. From what I've seen Mays will have trouble with average and ordinary TE's and FB's in league and will get swallowed up by interior lineman. When you are bouncing around 90 man rosters in the first week of training camp you're pretty much a camp body, a stop gap and/or the best that the salary cap could afford and that's not necessarily a good thing. Making do!
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I think Mays is going to be an upgrade over anything we put out there last year after Cushing went down.

He's a fast playing, high energy, hard hitting player. I think he fits well in this defense playing next to Cushing and I expect him to be a plus player this upcoming season defensively and on special teams if he plays there.
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When you are bouncing around 90 man rosters in the first week of training camp you're pretty much a camp body, a stop gap and/or the best that the salary cap could afford and that's not necessarily a good thing. Making do!
Mays was not bouncing around 90 man rosters. He just got cut and then was pursued by 6-7 teams. That isn't the typical camp fodder you are talking about.
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Mays was not bouncing around 90 man rosters. He just got cut and then was pursued by 6-7 teams. That isn't the typical camp fodder you are talking about.
I guess it all depends on your definition of bouncing. In my definition going from one team's 90 man roster to another team's 90 man roster in the first week of training camp is bouncing.
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I guess it all depends on your definition of bouncing. In my definition going from one team's 90 man roster to another team's 90 man roster in the first week of training camp is bouncing.
That's more like a bounce. Rather than a bouncing....

But seriously, trying to use the fact that the Broncos cut him as evidence that he's not good is kind of silly.
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