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Old 07-30-2013   #21
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Crappy drafts are built on lining up needs and forcing them onto the available personnel.
Exactly, as has been discussed in infinity. See Cowboys.

Rick Smith has done a great job of drafting the consensus BPA at a position of need pretty much since he's been here. He sure took a lot of flack early on but outside of the folks who won't be pleased no matter what the FO does I believe most have come around to seeing that he's done a pretty good job. If not great even.
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Dont see hopkins getting the targets.
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Dont see hopkins getting the targets.
Matt's going to throw the ball at least 30 times a game. Hop is going to be the third or 4th option, worst case scenario.

The targets will be there, he's just got to earn them.
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Matt's going to throw the ball at least 30 times a game. Hop is going to be the third or 4th option, worst case scenario.

The targets will be there, he's just got to earn them.
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I'm going to go with Hopkins. Think he'll have a really good year.

On another note, its very disappointing that our 2 OLB picks aren't showing much of anything so far. I know its still VERY early in camp, but it sounds like Jefferson is showing much more potential so far.
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Dont see hopkins getting the targets.
It's hard to imagine Hopkins not getting the same amount of targets that Kevin Walter had last year. If Hopkins can match K-dub's production, he will have around 40 catches for over 500 yards. Not really lofty projections but I still think that would be the biggest impact from a rookie this year.
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It's hard to imagine Hopkins not getting the same amount of targets that Kevin Walter had last year. If Hopkins can match K-dub's production, he will have around 40 catches for over 500 yards. Not really lofty projections but I still think that would be the biggest impact from a rookie this year.
12 yards per catch. Might as well have kept Walter.

I think it would help the team more if Hop ended up with something more like 500 yards with 30 catches. 16+ ypc. That's explosive, that's a playmaker, that's someone you've got to account for, someone who commands attention away from Aj

12 ypc is a pretty good TE keeping your LBs busy.
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12 yards per catch. Might as well have kept Walter.

I think it would help the team more if Hop ended up with something more like 500 yards with 30 catches. 16+ ypc. That's explosive, that's a playmaker, that's someone you've got to account for, someone who commands attention away from Aj

12 ypc is a pretty good TE keeping your LBs busy.
My point was mainly about targets. Hopkins is replacing Walter as the Texans #2 WR. Why can't Hopkins get the same amount (40) of targets Walter got? If he gets the same amount of yards or more, it's hard to imagine that production won't have the biggest impact among the rookies.
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My point was mainly about targets. Hopkins is replacing Walter as the Texans #2 WR. Why can't Hopkins get the same amount (40) of targets Walter got? If he gets the same amount of yards or more, it's hard to imagine that production won't have the biggest impact among the rookies.
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My point was mainly about targets. Hopkins is replacing Walter as the Texans #2 WR. Why can't Hopkins get the same amount (40) of targets Walter got? If he gets the same amount of yards or more, it's hard to imagine that production won't have the biggest impact among the rookies.
Walter was targeted 68 times last season and caught 41. There is no reason in the world to think Hopkins won't get targeted as much or more.
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Walter was targeted 68 times last season and caught 41. There is no reason in the world to think Hopkins won't get targeted as much or more.
Except that he'll be playing against NFL defenses which is something he's never done before. Getting open may not be as easy as we think.... & unless he & Schaub are really clicking, "open" may be more tightly defined for a good part of the season.
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Walter was targeted 68 times last season and caught 41. There is no reason in the world to think Hopkins won't get targeted as much or more.
My initial thought when I first found out that we drafted him was that he'd be an upgrade over KW. I thought that he'd get at least the same number of targets and probably, since I expected him to be so much more than KW, I even thought that he'd catch as many balls as KW... in KWs best season.

So I was thinking about 60 catches at 15 ypc for about 900 yards.

After the initial flush of excitement, I think that might be too much to expect. A lot is going to depend on him making catches when he gets thrown to... unlike Martin.

This is a hard offense for rookies to pick up. So I'm going to halve that his first season and just go for about 30 catches for 500 yards.

That doesn't mean I'm not hoping for 60 catches for 1000 yards.
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Except that he'll be playing against NFL defenses which is something he's never done before. Getting open may not be as easy as we think.... & unless he & Schaub are really clicking, "open" may be more tightly defined for a good part of the season.
Good job. This was my thinking on the targets. In the end his numbers will be sexier anyways.
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Swearinger, but it comes late in December after he collects 3 picks between Brady and Manning >>>>BOLD PREDICTION
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Except that he'll be playing against NFL defenses which is something he's never done before. Getting open may not be as easy as we think.... & unless he & Schaub are really clicking, "open" may be more tightly defined for a good part of the season.
Well others seem to have made the transition:

Justin Blackmon - 133 tgts, 64 rec., 865 yds.
Michael Floyd - 86 tgts, 45 rec., 562 yds.
Kendall Wright - 104 tgs, 64 rec., 626 yds.

Doesn't appear matching Walter's targets is an out of line expectation.
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Good job. This was my thinking on the targets. In the end his numbers will be sexier anyways.
I will think he was worth the pick & impacted the game if he can beat KDub's ypc. We need a WR2, not a flex TE.

I seriously doubt he'll get the targets or the catches Walter had. But I'm hoping 1 catch will impact the game as much as 3 of Walters.
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Willie Jefferson with the Aldon Smith type rookie sack numbers.

I think he'll get 10 this season with an INT snatched out of the air JJ Watt style.

To those who picked Hopkins, I actually think Martin will have more receptions than Hopkins this season.
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Well others seem to have made the transition:

Justin Blackmon - 133 tgts, 64 rec., 865 yds.
Michael Floyd - 86 tgts, 45 rec., 562 yds.
Kendall Wright - 104 tgs, 64 rec., 626 yds.

Doesn't appear matching Walter's targets is an out of line expectation.
If we had a gunslinger throwing him the ball there'd be no doubt in my mind. But we've got Joe Cool... calm, calculating, not taking chances, & while he can extend plays when needed, it doesn't happen as often as it would with Matt Hasselbeck, Jake Locker, or Kolb/Skelton would, giving the young'n a little extra time to work his way open.

They also didn't have an all-pro WR working the other side of the field, or an all-pro (I think he was an all-pro) TE working the middle of the field.
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Picked Hopkins, but I think it'll,be neck and neck between him and Swearinger. Both will see lots of OR and I think both will do we'll despite difficult schemes to adjust to. I picked Hopkins because of the impact he can have if he consistently catches the ball and adds a legit second outside threat.

I do think overall this could be Smith's best draft haul. The past two years have been real good top to bottom.
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I am going with Trevardo Williams. He may not get many plays at first but he will have significant impact. Even if he does not get many sacks, I see him impacting the QB's decision. He has speed and vertical:
"In 50 games at Connecticut, Williams started 30 games at strong side defensive end and set a school record with 30.5 career sacks. The Jamaica native was first-team All-Big East as a senior with 11.5 sacks and had 12.5 sacks as a junior in 2011.
Williams had the best 40-yard dash (4.57) and vertical jump (38 inches) of any defensive lineman at this year’s NFL Scouting Combine. He also benched 225 pounds 30 times."
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