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Old 07-29-2013   #81
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The safety of masses takes precedence.
If this the the priority, why stop with just bag requirements?

Why not full body scanners? Why not strip searches? Perhaps federal background checks on every individual attending a game?

You might say I'm going overboard. To which I would reply, the safety of masses takes precedence.

Some paying customers might not feel "saaaaaafe" until full body scanners, strip searches, armed DHS agents, background checks, and drones are flying over the stadium. Heck, let's add bomb sniffing dogs to the routine for every vehicle entering stadium grounds. Do you even realize how easy it would be to rig your car with explosives to murder a bunch of innocent tailgaters?!?

Holy cow, we could be attacked at every turn!!!

Remind me again of the incident in which an NFL game was attacked by terrorists? I seem to be missing that news story from my memory banks.
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Personally , I respect the opinions from both sides, but I don't have an issue simply because I prefer to travel light. Back when the Texans were really bad, I took a bag of paperwork to finish, but since then I haven't much need for extra stuff. Cowboys will take some adjustments because I took extra stuff to be prepared for autograph opportunities.

I learned a lot about the hassle free life during my previous employment after seeing managers traveling on international trips with a one carryon bag and using hotel cleaning services. Still not totally convinced I checked a bag for a two day trip to West Virginia and upon arriving to Columbus no bag. I found out there was a mixup and
my bag went to N Y and that persons bag was on Columbus. I ended up having to purchase clothing and necessities at Wheelings Walmart. My luggage arrived the morning I was leaving. That experience led me to rethink my travel preferences.
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I hope I didn't just find out what the annual gift thats being included this year. If do it could explain the late arrival of the tickets.
The clear bag is not the annual gift. I was told that the Texans would be sending out those bag to season ticket holders, but it did not come with my tickets.

It is a bag with a zipper and handles. Very orthopedic.

I suggest decorating it so it doesn't get confused with other people's bags.
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Just to put size in perspective, here's a picture of my fairly small hand on top of an "illegal" purse. This handbag meets the height requirement, but it's about 1" too long. I hardly consider this a giant ass bag. It wouldn't fit a full sized pad, let alone a pallet of them!


You couldn't fit a single pad in that purse?
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You a pad expert now? She said she couldn't.
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LOL, or a flow expert?
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If this the the priority, why stop with just bag requirements?

Why not full body scanners? Why not strip searches? Perhaps federal background checks on every individual attending a game?

You might say I'm going overboard. To which I would reply, the safety of masses takes precedence.

Some paying customers might not feel "saaaaaafe" until full body scanners, strip searches, armed DHS agents, background checks, and drones are flying over the stadium. Heck, let's add bomb sniffing dogs to the routine for every vehicle entering stadium grounds. Do you even realize how easy it would be to rig your car with explosives to murder a bunch of innocent tailgaters?!?

Holy cow, we could be attacked at every turn!!!

Remind me again of the incident in which an NFL game was attacked by terrorists? I seem to be missing that news story from my memory banks.

All it takes is ONE incident. You tell me which you prefer; an inconvenience that you can plan for and were notified MONTHS in advance or a bunch of blown up people?

You act like these things don't happen every day all over the world. May not happen here but Boston proves that it can and it more than likely will.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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You act like these things don't happen every day all over the world. May not happen here but Boston proves that it can and it more than likely will.
List the terrorist attacks at major sporting events in the last year. I am being generous and not restricting to stadium events which would be analogous.
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All it takes is ONE incident. You tell me which you prefer; an inconvenience that you can plan for and were notified MONTHS in advance or a bunch of blown up people?

You act like these things don't happen every day all over the world. May not happen here but Boston proves that it can and it more than likely will.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
It's all good, Papa. Not trying to start an argument with you. Mainly just taking the perspective to it's extreme slippery slope.

The problem with trying to implement an effective security policy for a 70,000 people event is that there are going to be limits to what authorities can do.

Give me a security program for 70,000 people, and I am sure there is a way to be found to exploit the program to attack. Short of extreme security measures that I mentioned above, there is no 100% effective way to secure every single event.

At some point, we just have to realize as citizens that every time we leave our houses to go to any event, there is a certain amount of 'risk' involved as it pertains to being exposed to potential threats.

I think this policy is knee jerk reaction stuff. It is designed to make folks feel better, sort of like the very lame patdowns at the games now. Very much reminds me of security gates at most apartment complexes. They do not really stop anyone with ill will, but they make folks feel better, and that is what the NFL is doing here, IMO.
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LOL, or a flow expert?
You think they'll have vendors coming down the aisle selling Texan tampons or liberty white maxis ?
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I'm not saying its perfect. Don't get me wrong. But something is better than nothing.

Hell remember flying 9/11? How bad was that crap? It's better now but it'll never be like it was. A couple months ago no one would've thought a backpack and a pressure cooker could cause that much damage.

The same people bitching about it now will be the same people crying and wondering why nothing was done when there is an incident.

My main point is that everyone has been told WELL in advance. Some folks act like just because they buy a ticket they're entitled to something more than a seat. If "you" don't like it, don't go. We all know damn well that seat will be resold in minutes.
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Tell me cak, what's your magic number? To me, one is too many.

I'm sure the 260+ victims of Boston would have loved to have had this bobo security measure in place.
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Tell me cak, what's your magic number? To me, one is too many.

I'm sure the 260+ victims of Boston would have loved to have had this bobo security measure in place.
Gee I don't know Papa. What's your limit for security? - a finger up the sphincter, someone exploring your wife and daughter's genitals and breasts, etc. Your rationale places no limit and Boston was an open environment not subject to ANY search so as I said not analogous. You could go to any building in Maryland and set off a more serious device easily.

Like DB I am not trying to fight with you overall but there has to be a discussion and a limit. Safety first is not the end of the discussion especially when the steps being implemented may do nothing for safety.
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That's the root of our problem in this country since 9/11 in a nutshell.
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Gee I don't know Papa. What's your limit for security? - a finger up the sphincter, someone exploring your wife and daughter's genitals and breasts, etc. Your rationale places no limit and Boston was an open environment not subject to ANY search so as I said not analogous. You could go to any building in Maryland and set off a more serious device easily.

Like DB I am not trying to fight with you overall but there has to be a discussion and a limit. Safety first is not the end of the discussion especially when the steps being implemented may do nothing for safety.
Well I'm sure once one person blows up a whole bunch of people with their sphincter, breasts, and/or genitals we will revisit this conversation. In the mean time comparing the size of bag to those examples is extreme. Especially when you knew in advance and have options.

How much do you want to bet Boston marathon will never be open again...just like airport security.

There's a difference between a high value target and "any building". Last I checked there aren't 70,000 people at Home Depot.

When the last "incident" was backpack bomb you think omitting said bags from high value targets is worthless? Just like when you play a team that's soft against the run up the middle; keep doing it until they stop you.
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So it's OK if just 20 people are shot at Home Depot.
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OK this ranks up there on the WTFometer. Seriously, women can't bring their ordinary purses? There hasn't been a single incident at an NFL stadium making this even paranoid reasonable.
Atleast this way u will know if its a womans time of the month and you can be sure to stay out of her way....Always gotta find the positive
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No like Sun Tzu you learn not to chase what the other guy is doing. This ain't football.
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You a pad expert now? She said she couldn't.

Expert? Far from it but pads are not that big and there would be no logical reason it would not fit in a bag the size of a human hand, even a small one.
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No like Sun Tzu you learn not to chase what the other guy is doing. This ain't football.
And the battle is no longer being fought on one front vs one enemy. Sun Tzu was a mastermind in that case. Alas the battle front has changed.

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