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Old 07-25-2013   #161
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Reactivated off the PUP list. Didn't take long.

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So this means Brennan Williams is cleared for contact drills after his scope about 3 weeks ago?

Does this mean now that we'll see a full blown big boy cat fight for RT from the beginning by two guys that are recovering from surgery?

Does that time frame sound legit Doc? Cush fully recovered from his patella tendon surgery with no set backs but I don't recall the time frame.
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So this means Brennan Williams is cleared for contact drills after his scope about 3 weeks ago?
According to quotes in the Training camp thread, looks like Brennan is going to kick somebody's a55 if they don't let him play tomorrow.


Also sounds as if Montgomery "appears" fit & this "out of shape" stuff was mental mind-tricks. All the comments from Jj & Antonio and all sounds as if the whole defense read his draft report & are on the same page
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Montgomery said his issue was caused by poor eating .... Whataburger, Taco Bell, etc.

Williams comment I think was tongue in cheek.
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Montgomery said his issue was caused by poor eating .... Whataburger, Taco Bell, etc.

Williams comment I think was tongue in cheek.
Crap. I had no idea that food was bad for you. Well now that I know...
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Montgomery said his issue was caused by poor eating .... Whataburger, Taco Bell, etc.
Again, he was put on the list, then taken off the list.... what did he do, starve himself & sweat off the water weight?

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I don't think there was a real "out of shape" issue? I mean if it could be corrected in one afternoon, how bad could it have been?
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So this means Brennan Williams is cleared for contact drills after his scope about 3 weeks ago?

Does this mean now that we'll see a full blown big boy cat fight for RT from the beginning by two guys that are recovering from surgery?

Does that time frame sound legit Doc? Cush fully recovered from his patella tendon surgery with no set backs but I don't recall the time frame.
Sorry, drs..........I accidentally placed the answer to your post in the Montgomery thread. William's surgery was NOT only 3 weeks ago.

Here is you answer to the Williams question and the Cushing question (which I believe you asked in the context of Newton [it wasn't clear]):

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...&postcount=100
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Again, he was put on the list, then taken off the list.... what did he do, starve himself & sweat off the water weight?

From the training camp thread


I don't think there was a real "out of shape" issue? I mean if it could be corrected in one afternoon, how bad could it have been?

Tape does wonders..........temporarily.........
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Sorry, drs..........I accidentally placed the answer to your post in the Montgomery thread. William's surgery was NOT only 3 weeks ago.

Here is you answer to the Williams question and the Cushing question (which I believe you asked in the context of Newton [it wasn't clear]):

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...&postcount=100
I caught it over there Doc, thanks, and sorry for not being so clear as to my question.
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Tape does wonders..........temporarily.........
They should have used duct tape.
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Montgomery said his issue was caused by poor eating .... Whataburger, Taco Bell, etc.

Williams comment I think was tongue in cheek.
his body is his livelihood. hope this guy ends up being worth the pick, but dang so far.
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After the Texans have been waffling on Montgomery's ankle injury again being a minor sprain, when I saw him in a boot the next day, I stated that it was either a serious ankle sprain or most likely a high ankle sprain. Rich Lord on 610 this past few minutes stated that Kubiak has now for the first time confirmed that Montgomery is dealing with a high ankle sprain.
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After the Texans have been waffling on Montgomery's ankle injury again being a minor sprain, when I saw him in a boot the next day, I stated that it was either a serious ankle sprain or most likely a high ankle sprain. Rich Lord on 610 this past few minutes stated that Kubiak has now for the first time confirmed that Montgomery is dealing with a high ankle sprain.
Why did they him off the boot, Doc?
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Why did they him off the boot, Doc?
I can't be entirely sure. Boots are not usually used for Grade I run of the mill LATERAL ankle sprains. Those can usually rely on ankle taping and/or bracing. Boots are usually reserved for more serious Grade II or III lateral ankle sprains or high ankle sprains where total rest and support is desired for varying periods of time. With moderate lateral sprains, the boot may be removed relatively early to begin rehab strengthening. With high ankle sprains, there is usually a significantly longer "rest" and protective period. Of course, Montgomery is so far behind, the Texans certainly had to have been worried that they were running out of time to make him a functional part of this season. Could they be pushing him beyond the recommended schedule, hoping against odds? Would that surprise you?
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The old high ankle sprain, at this point I think Sam Montgomery has a better chance of making IR than he does the 53 man roster. Currently Sam is 3 deep on the depth chart and is not climbing up anytime to soon.

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The old high ankle sprain, at this point I think Sam Montgomery has a better chance of making IR than he does the 53 man roster. Currently Sam is 3 deep on the depth chart and is not climbing up anytime to soon.

Depth Chart: http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthcharts.aspx
I wouldn't put much faith in that depth chart.

They've got Ryan Harris as the backup LT when I think he's in the running for the RT spot right now and at the very least the #2 RT. No way Brennan Williams is the #2 RT with the amount of time he's missed.

And with the WRs, it's kind of a mess. They should have a separate spot for the slot receivers. If I were to rank the WRs, I think they go more like this:

1. AJ
2. Hopkins
3. Keshawn Martin - Slot
4. Lestar Jean - AJ Backup
5. Devier Posey - Hopkins Backup
6. Alan Bonner - Slot?
7. Jeff Maehl

The way they've got it set up, it looks like Martin is the #5 or #6 receiver and on par with Bonner. I don't think that's accurate.
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1. AJ
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3. Keshawn Martin - Slot
4. Lestar Jean - AJ Backup
5. Devier Posey - Hopkins Backup
6. Alan Bonner - Slot?
7. Jeff Maehl

The way they've got it set up, it looks like Martin is the #5 or #6 receiver and on par with Bonner. I don't think that's accurate.
I think we're saying the same thing, but they way I see it is

1. Andre - Posey - LeStar
2. DeAndre - LeStar - Maehl
4. Keshawn - Bonner
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I wouldn't put much faith in that depth chart.
I do have faith in ourlads.com depth charts. They're about as good as they get, constantly updated on daily basis. Nobody does a better job. To stay up to date and better informed follow Dan Shonka on twitter https://twitter.com/Ourlads_Shonka for the latest up to date depth charts in the NFL.

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From the two lists above, I come away at this point with reservations on 2 players on the list.

From what I've seen in past seasons and heard during the offseason and TC, Jean (as much as I've always had high hopes for him) is still trying to catch many of the balls thrown to him with his body instead of his hands........and as such is still dropping balls that he shouldn't.

As far as Posey, he showed great potential at the end of last season before his Achilles. However, I would be very guarded on depending on him to "functionally" return early in the season.....or expecting to see the Posey we are wanting to see until at least before the end of the season, if we see that Posey ever again. An Achilles can be much more tested in a WR than a RB (as well as other positions), in that explosiveness and stresses on the healing tendon must be "maxed" as a WR more than a RB...........with additional forceful high velocity moves of stop and go (slower for a RB).........and fast cut-backs towards the QB (a move not really required by a RB). This is not to even mention the explosiveness necessary to repeatedly jumping high..............and having to sustain the hard and sudden impacts (extreme stress on the Achilles) when coming back down.
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I think we're saying the same thing, but they way I see it is

1. Andre - Posey - LeStar
2. DeAndre - LeStar - Maehl
4. Keshawn - Bonner
I've heard that Nwhateverachu is looking very good in camp. He has speed to burn. he's atleast a PS candidate.
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