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Old 07-25-2013   #1
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Ryan deal is done with 5 year ext at $103,750 million, $59 million guaranteed, $63 mill in first 3 years, $20.75 mill average per

First reaction: Yikes.
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Ryan deal is done with 5 year ext at $103,750 million, $59 million guaranteed, $63 mill in first 3 years, $20.75 mill average per

First reaction: Yikes.
And people complain about Schaub's contract?
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$63 mill in first 3 years
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And people complain about Schaub's contract?
Yep, seems everything is relative and Schaub don't seem so pricey now in this context.
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And people complain about Schaub's contract?
Dammit. You beat me to saying this by 10 minutes. I have just been reading the contracts and going back and forth between Schaub, Flacco, Romo, and Rodgers.

Lot of people were complaining about Schaub's contract, but man, dude is getting paid about 40% less than these other guys, so IMO we actually put a good contract on him (assuming he plays well this year, which I know he will).
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First reaction: Yikes.
My first reaction is that we got a steal on Matt Schaub. Rick Smith goes to the top of the list for Exec of the year.

Anyone thinking $100M for Flacco, Romo, & Ryan is a good deal over the next 4 years or so & that we paid too much for Schaub $60M over the next three years (4 years total)....... has serious hate issues, that's all I can say about it.

Romo is 33
Schaub is 32
Flacco is 28
Ryan is 28

The age difference between Ryan, Flacco, & Schaub don't justify the extra $40M..... not to me.
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wish we had a qb worth that kind of money, just sayin
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wish we had a qb worth that kind of money, just sayin
So do Cowboys, Ravens, and Falcons.
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So do Cowboys, Ravens, and Falcons.
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Default Re: Matt Ryan newest $100m QB

Some ridiculous contract these guys are on.

However, out of the 4 QBs mentioned, I'd take Ryan first in a heartbeat.
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Some ridiculous contract these guys are on.

However, out of the 4 QBs mentioned, I'd take Ryan first in a heartbeat.
I'd go

Ryan
Flacco
Schaub
Jugs machine
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Romo
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I'd go

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Romo
I mostly agree with you, however I think a jugs machine is a little bit more mobile than Schaub.

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I mostly agree with you, however I think a jugs machine is a little bit more mobile than Schaub.

But it's not as good at reading defenses. It has a tendency to lock on to its primary receiver and not look the safeties off.
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I'd go

Ryan
Flacco
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Jugs machine
A traffic cone
Romo
I've never considered myself a Schaub fan, but I'd go

Schaub
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I'm not taking Schaub over any of those guys. I think if you put those guys on this team they all look better than Schaub by a good margin.
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For those prices, I'd take Schaub easy. I'm not giving elite money to QBs that aren't elite.
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Default Re: Matt Ryan newest $100m QB

Matt Ryan is the only guy I think would look appreciably better than Schaub in our system. He's got a good head on him & has consistently made good decisions. I'd like to see Romo in our system, I think it would be exciting to watch. It would be different, but I don't know that the team would have done any better or worse over the last 4 years.

Flacco.... no doubt in my mind he would not look any better than Schaub in our system. When everything is clicking, he'll look fine (great even, nigh elite). When he needs to lead the way.... not so much. Pretty much the mirror image of Matt Schaub, only a few years younger.
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Some ridiculous contract these guys are on.

However, out of the 4 QBs mentioned, I'd take Ryan first in a heartbeat.
This.

Matt Ryan could very well end up on that "Elite" level. He's A LOT better than people give him credit for.

He should be paid like a top 5 QB.
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For those prices, I'd take Schaub easy. I'm not giving elite money to QBs that aren't elite.
I feel exactly the same way.
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I'd take Ryan over Schaub. I think he's got the potential to be great and I think he'd flourish here under Kubiak in this system.

With Flacco and Romo, I don't think they'd be significant improvements over Schaub and they'd probably be steps back. They'd be able to do things that Schaub can't do; they'd be much more exciting than Schaub is. They would even win a game or two that Schaub would lose. But I think they'd both make a lot more bad decisions and end up losing us a lot of games that Schaub would win in an unspectacular way. I'd rather win in an unspectacular way than go down in a blaze of glory.
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