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Here you can read 8 actual search warrants issued on this case.

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Inside a safe in Hernandez home police found a scale and a dish used to weigh drugs.
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Here you can read 8 actual search warrants issued on this case.

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/l...ernandez-case/
Thanks for posting these! Was looking for them myself. MSR.
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So Odin Lloyd was a marijuana dealer who rode a bicycle and had $64.75 in his pocket when he was killed...

He must not have been good at it.
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Tweets read bottom-to-top, give a bit of a timeline...

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Police are still looking for that missing rear view mirror.

Hernandez said he didn't know how it happened. "explained that he just came outside and saw that the vehicle was damaged," docs say

When Hernandez returns the car to enterprise one day after murder, he apologizes to the manager for the damage.

The Altima sustains damage to driver's side and loses side view mirror.

One last detail then I gotta start writing. Police mention that at some point the night of killing...

Lloyd's pockets had his wallet, two sets of keys for a black Chevy Suburban, a cell phone and $64.75 in cash.

at 3:33 am Hernandez is back home. video shows him standing at the entrance of his basement, moving what looks like a gun from hand to hand

Employees of a business not far from murder scene were on a break between 3 and 3:30 when they hear several gunshots.

A silver car pulled up at odin lloyd's house at 2:30 am and picked up lloyd, Victim's sister later tells police

At 1 am, three men leave the home in a silver car that looks like the Nissan Altima used in the crime, docs say.

Early Monday morning, video surveillance shows Hernandez in his living room holding what looks like a gun.

That night they had gone to rumor nightclub in Boston where a club employee said Hernandez had what looked like a gun in his waistband

Docs provide good tick tock of events leading to killing: Friday night, 6/14, Hernandez and Lloyd got drunk and slept outside Lloyd's home

When police were searching for Hernandez they stopped by home of unidentified pats coach. Told them he hadn't seen him since practice 6-13

Hernandez called her while she was talking to police and told her his agent said she should stop talking, report says.

She went to bed early but Hernandez went out.

Hernandez fiancée very cooperative in this report so far. Talks about how she and Hernandez went out for Father's Day for dinner.

Hernandez on the other hand slammed his door on detectives's faces. Didn't even ask whose death they were investigating, report says.

Very detailed police documents on #hernandez case. Describes how Hernandez fiancée wept when police told her Odin Lloyd had been killed.
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So Odin Lloyd was a marijuana dealer who rode a bicycle and had $64.75 in his pocket when he was killed...

He must not have been good at it.
Now I get it, Hernandez just held onto Lloyd's scale and weights for him in Hernandez's home in a "safe" place..........
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Its pretty much as if the dude wanted to get caught. Like a bad episode of the first 48.
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--Carlos Ortiz

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Documents show a man linked to the murder case against former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez told police Hernandez admitted firing the fatal shots.

Carlos Ortiz reportedly told Massachusetts investigators that another man, Ernest Wallace, said Hernandez admitted shooting Odin Lloyd in an industrial park near Hernandez’s Massachusetts home.

The documents were filed in court by the Miramar, Fla., police department to justify a search of Wallace’s home in that city.

The documents also say that while investigating Lloyd’s killing, police did searches in Bristol, Conn., that turned up a vehicle wanted in connection with a July 2012 double homicide in Boston.

Police say the vehicle had been rented in the name of Hernandez.

Hernandez’s legal team did not return email messages Tuesday.
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What? He rented a car under his own damned name and then committed a double homicide in it? And then stashed the car with someone who was picked up in this investigation?

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Something's fishy about this...

Why would Hernandez admit to Wallace that he killed Lloyd -- and Wallace tell Ortiz who tells the cops -- if both Wallace and Ortiz were with Hernandez the night of the killing???

And who were these guys?


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Something's fishy about this...

Why would Hernandez admit to Wallace that he killed Lloyd -- and Wallace tell Ortiz who tells the cops -- if both Wallace and Ortiz were with Hernandez the night of the killing???

And who were these guys?


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Prosecutors say Hernandez, Wallace and Ortiz drove with Lloyd in a rented Nissan Altima to the industrial park where Lloyd was fatally shot.

Ortiz told police that during the drive Hernandez told Lloyd that Lloyd had been "chilling" with people Hernandez had problems with, the documents say. But Ortiz told police the two men shook hands and the problem seemed smoothed over. However, the Altima soon stopped, and everyone but Ortiz got out to urinate, according to Ortiz's account.

The witness told police he then heard gunshots before Hernandez and Wallace got back into the car without Lloyd and the car sped away.


Ortiz said he couldn't see who fired the shots because it was dark. Back at Hernandez's home, Ortiz said, Wallace asked him to get a small gun out from under the driver's seat. Ortiz said he did and gave it to Hernandez once they were inside.
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This is hearsay heaven!
I would strongly suspect that since this warrant information, there will be more corroborative evidence that has been uncovered.........and more to come in good time.
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This is hearsay heaven!
Seems like it to me too. I'm about as far away from a lawyer as possible, but it sure seems like there isn't that "oh, he gone" type evidence. Like the murder weapon, maybe
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I would strongly suspect that since this warrant information, there will be more corroborative evidence that has been uncovered.........and more to come in good time.
Agree. I just find it funny when it is a "dude said that his friend told him that dude #2 said this." They have to get "friend" to corroborate here for this hearsay evidence to even make it in.
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Seems like it to me too. I'm about as far away from a lawyer as possible, but it sure seems like there isn't that "oh, he gone" type evidence. Like the murder weapon, maybe
It's funny. For all of the evidence they have collected, including bullets, video with him with gun, gum, etc...there still hasn't been anything, as you said, like the smoking gun. But they have a lot to build a case. All it will take is the other accomplice to admit what the other guy said though and it will look worse.
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This is hearsay heaven!
Indeed, but it kinda shows how brazen Hernandez was. He invited a Ortiz along for a ride and then killed a guy, making Ortiz an accessory to murder and putting his next 25-years-to-life in jeopardy.

I guess Hernandez figured making Ortiz an accessory would keep his mouth shut. Ortiz certainly was not told they were going to do homicide.

Hernandez may have felt untouchable after getting away with shooting so many other people. Dude is a serial killer.

If all goes to script, expect to hear someone has killed/attempted to kill Carlos Ortiz.
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Indeed, but it kinda shows how brazen Hernandez was. He invited a Ortiz along for a ride and then killed a guy, making Ortiz an accessory to murder and putting his next 25-years-to-life in jeopardy.

I guess Hernandez figured making Ortiz an accessory would keep his mouth shut. Ortiz certainly was not told they were going to do homicide.

Hernandez may have felt untouchable after getting away with shooting so many other people. Dude is a serial killer.

If all goes to script, expect to hear someone has killed/attempted to kill Carlos Ortiz.

Wallace and Ortiz have "agreed to be held without bail.............protective??????????
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Wallace and Ortiz have "agreed to be held without bail.............protective??????????
Wallace is old(41) and hard. I don't see him flipping on Hernandez, I'm guessing he mentored him.

Ortiz's court appointed lawyer said 1) he didn't have the $1000 to post if bail was only $10,000, and 2) he planned on arguing for bail but required discovery documents before doing so. Next setting for him is August 14.

I wonder if the DA will play a cat-n-mouse game with Ortiz by delaying the opportunity for him to request protective custody until they can secure his cooperation through a deal. Ortiz was described as "afraid, depressed, gentle, confused, and crying". Now is the most dangerous time for him.
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