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Old 06-24-2013   #141
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... I would say that rather than actually being dumb, Hernandez has always seemed to do stupid things.
On this one I'm going to have to agree with Forrest Gump's mama "Stupid is as stupid does."
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Probably...maybe...

Losing Welker, Gronk injured, and now Hernandez most likely out for 2013 and beyond...Captain Marvelous can only do so much without weapons.
Edelman's on the bubble and hasn't yet practiced all offseason after his foot injury. And the Pat's 2 drafted WRs were injured during minicamp (2nd round and 4th round). They picked up FA WR Amendola, but last year was his only decent year, and he is a slot receiver.

Also keep in mind that Brady's 2012 touchdown percentage was his lowest since 2009. His yards per attempt were at their lowest since 2008, and his completion percentage at its lowest since 2006.
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Losing Welker, Gronk injured, and now Hernandez most likely out for 2013 and beyond...
In effect, Belichick traded Hernandez for Welker.

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..Captain Marvelous can only do so much without weapons.
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Edelman's on the bubble and hasn't yet practiced all offseason after his foot injury. And the Pat's 2 drafted WRs were injured during minicamp (2nd round and 4th round). They picked up FA WR Amendola, but last year was his only decent year, and he is a slot receiver.

Also keep in mind that Brady's 2012 touchdown percentage was his lowest since 2009. His yards per attempt were at their lowest since 2008, and his completion percentage at its lowest since 2006.
yep. And while I like Brady and have tremendous respect for his talent and career, the dude is not getting any younger. There will be a point where he is no longer "the" Tom Brady and age catches up to him.
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In effect, Belichick traded Hernandez for Welker.
I think I disagree with this. They signed Amendola to replace Welker, so I think that's a better comparison. Hernandez' deal happened a year before that, and they still could have kept Welker if they wanted to pay him. Instead they decided to let him go and pay that money to someone else (Amendola).
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Police find 'no evidence' in pond near home of Aaron Hernandez

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Police searching a pond near the home of New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez said they found “no evidence” connected to the homicide of a 27-year-old man last week.


Authorities searched the water for about an hour, disclosing to reporters only that they were looking for evidence of the crime.

One officer wore a wetsuit and carried what looked to be a metal detector into the heavily wooded area near Hernandez’s sprawling home in North Attleborough, Mass.

According to USA Today, it appeared the only item recovered was a partially deflated football.
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Yeah Doc, I read this earlier. I'm not clear as to what exactly they were looking for tho'
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It's looking more like Hernandez might ne going into prison a Tight End and coming out a Wide Receiver.
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Attorney Michael Fee has issued a statement attacking media reports indicating that a warrant has been issued for Hernandez’s arrest on obstruction of justice charges. Via Wesley Lowery of the Boston Globe, Fee said that Hernandez has been “the subject of a relentless flood of rumors, misinformation and false reports in the media.”

Fee added that the supposedly false reports “include repeated publication of supposedly confirmed report an arrest warrant had been issued for Aaron, a report exposed as untrue.”

“None of [the] false reports come from official sources and we appreciate the professionalism and restraint shown by the Bristol County DA,” Fee adds.

For starters, how does Fee know that the “false reports” aren’t coming from “official sources.” And precisely what is an “official source”?

While we have been careful to point out that media reports attributed to unnamed law-enforcement sources should be regarded with skepticism because the unnamed law-enforcement sources may not know the truth or may be selling an untrue version of it for strategic reasons, Fee has no way of knowing that “officials sources” (whatever they are) haven’t been spreading misinformation.

And if Fee is going to paint with a belated broad brush in disputing the various reports that have created an unflattering tapestry for Hernandez, he needs to back it up with concrete details. Does he deny that Hernandez destroyed his cell phone? Does he deny that Hernandez destroyed his home-surveillance system? Does he deny that Hernandez hired a cleaning crew to “scrub” his house the day after the murder of Odin Lloyd.

It’s not enough, at this stage of the game, to complain generally about untrue reports. Fee needs to list the reports he claims are false, and he needs to explain why they’re false.

But that won’t happen. Fee says he’ll have no further comment.

Until, of course, his next comment.
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What would Ray's cloths have done for the other two who were acquitted?
If you actually think that Ray Ray's missing bloody clothes/knife being wiped down didn't help in Ray/Ray's defense/other dudes, then I dont known what alternative universe you are living in.

BTW, as long as the Pats have Belichick/Brady they wont miss Hernandez. They were winning championships long before Hernandez was on the team.

People that day this is the begining of the end of the Pats dynasty are only using wishful thinking.
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Aaron Hernandez could be the poster boy for a league-wide SEC drug policy

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The Globe quoted one "longtime NFL executive" who suggested that Hernandez had failed as many as six drug tests at Florida.

Last week, Sports Illustrated reinforced that story, reporting that "Hernandez also admitted to NFL teams that he failed numerous drug tests prior to the 2010 NFL Draft."
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OK. So how many games did Hernandez miss in his three years at Florida?

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If one school in the league has a three-strikes-and-you're-out drug policy, and another requires four failed tests before dismissal, that can give the second school an edge in keeping its best players on the field.

That's assuming each school sticks to its stated drug policy in every case. Hands up if you believe that.

Anyone?

Consider the curious case of former LSU star Tyrann Mathieu. USA Today reported that, according to an NFL assistant coach, when asked by that team how many drug tests he failed at LSU, Mathieu said he "quit counting at 10."

Asked about that report, LSU coach Les Miles said, "I don't really have the numbers there."

Mathieu was suspended for one game during the 2011 season, reportedly for failing a drug test for synthetic marijuana - he was later dismissed from the team before the 2012 season - but typically, it takes multiple failed tests for a player to miss even one game. Again, that number differs from school to school.

Why?

With millions of dollars at stake based on winning SEC and BCS championships, there's incentive for a school to maintain a softer policy that helps keep players on the field. There's also incentive for a school to bend its policy for a star player.
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Probably...maybe...

Losing Welker, Gronk injured, and now Hernandez most likely out for 2013 and beyond...Captain Marvelous can only do so much without weapons.
They did fine without Captain Marvelous in 2008. It's Belichik that's the savior of the Patriots.
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Sounds like the NFL.
I found the lack of any standards across institutions disturbing, leaving each school/Coach(?) the discretion on post positive test procedures, testing frequency, testing labs.

I have to think the star QB may get a pass on 5 positive drug tests if there's a big game on the schedule? Didn't realize nothing is standardized. Call me jaded.
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They did fine without Captain Marvelous in 2008. It's Belichik that's the savior of the Patriots.
They did not make the playoffs in 2008.

For that reason alone, I have to disagree that they did fine for a championship dynasty. JMO

BTW, Belichick did not do much as a HC before Brady came along...
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They did not make the playoffs in 2008.

For that reason alone, I have to disagree that they did fine for a championship dynasty. JMO

BTW, Belichick did not do much as a HC before Brady came along...
Way to be disingenuous. They went 11-5! They were on the wrong end of a tiebreaker for the division championship.
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Way to be disingenuous. They went 11-5! They were on the wrong end of a tiebreaker for the division championship.
The Texans (9-7) were on the wrong end of a tie breaker in 2009.... does that mean anything?
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Way to be disingenuous. They went 11-5! They were on the wrong end of a tiebreaker for the division championship.
Yeah, Hall of Fame QB, three rings, records in many categories including come-from-behind wins, one of two QBs in league history with multiple SB MVPs and NFL MVPs...yeah, he had nothing to do with Belichick's success at NE. Riiiiiight.

And you want to blast me with disingenuous??

I shall refrain from the rest of my thoughts. Not worth it.
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Yeah, Hall of Fame QB, three rings, records in many categories including come-from-behind wins, one of two QBs in league history with multiple SB MVPs and NFL MVPs...yeah, he had nothing to do with Belichick's success at NE. Riiiiiight.

And you want to blast me with disingenuous??

I shall refrain from the rest of my thoughts. Not worth it.
What? I didn't say that Tom Brady had nothing to do with it. I'm saying that Belichick is the genious behind that Patroits engine. They have stars go down constantly including Tommy Boy yet the consistently rack up the wins. Missing the playoffs at 11-5 is an amazing feat in itself. The luck factor didn't fall their way.
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The Texans (9-7) were on the wrong end of a tie breaker in 2009.... does that mean anything?
Of course it doesn't. There's a big difference in being a top tier team at 11-5 and an average weak division team at 9-7. Huge difference to me.
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