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Old 06-06-2013   #41
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I can't think of a single player I'd trade Watt for. Including any QB in the league. That man is going to be a HOF'er and a monster for years to come. This is a QB driven league and guys that can get after the QB are just as valuable.

I'll taken proven over potential all day long.
You just said it all Doc - This is a QB driven league.
To reiterate, the Texans would trade Watt for Luck (or RG3), in a heartbeat.
Rick Smith or Gary Kubiak or Bob McNair would never admit that of course, nor would they ever get the opportunity to make that deal because the Colts (or the Redskins) would never make that trade if given the opportunity.
Anybody who doesn't understand this needs to go back and take the remedial course in NFL 101. The thing is it's almost impossible to overstate the value of a "franchise QB" in the NFL.
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Or let me put it this way on the upside scale:

1.) RGIII
2.) Russell Wilson
3.) Nick Foles
4.) Andrew Luck
5.) Ryan Tannehill

Foles, you say? For a kid who was thrown into a shambles of an Eagles team, who never got 1st team reps, and still managed to post a better QB rating than Luck, as well as a better completion %? Yes. All day, please.

I'll take the 6'-6" 243lb pure pocket pass out of Austin, Texas, for upside...
You make a fine argument for Foles.... but as far as the numbers go, who knows how they would have been had he started the whole season with the Eagles.

& he makes Matt Schaub look like Brad Pitt.

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You just said it all Doc - This is a QB driven league.
To reiterate, the Texans would trade Watt for Luck (or RG3), in a heartbeat.
Rick Smith or Gary Kubiak or Bob McNair would never admit that of course, nor would they ever get the opportunity to make that deal because the Colts (or the Redskins) would never make that trade if given the opportunity.
Anybody who doesn't understand this needs to go back and take the remedial course in NFL 101. The thing is it's almost impossible to overstate the value of a "franchise QB" in the NFL.



We'll see in year two. Playing QB in the NFL is not just about talent, that's only part of it. There are a lot more talented QBs who've come & gone in the NFL with less than half the success Matt Schaub has had. & Kubiak picked him up off someone's bench. So I think they may evaluate QBs a little differently than you do.
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That middle picture is almost like a bad prison porno.

No way Kareem shouldn't be on the list. Dude is a legit CB. But I guess Andrew Brady Montana Manning Luck has to have at least 5 spots to himself. Surprised he isn't #1-7
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Wow i cant believe i am seeing some here say they would trade JJ for Luck. Watt has been a big time game changer, Luck had an ok season last year. JJ has had 2 amazing seasons and we know what we got with him, luck not so much.

Lord where did loyalty go ? Especially for a guy who plays his heart out for us, Seems like a lot of you are ready to put luck in the HOF. Not quite yet folks. on the other hand JJ had the best season ever for a player at his position, get real people.
I love JJ! No lost loyalty here. Last season, he had the most dominating season I have ever seen by a defensive player. I believe he will be deservingly the highest paid defensive player in NFL history. Not to mention, he's being a model citizen that's representing the Texans extremely well. Unfortunately, if I was presented with a Luck for JJ trade, I'd have to take it. I can understand if you wouldn't, but I would. QB's simply last longer and have more influence in the game.
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Actually Idexan isn't that far off, in my opinion. I think Luck will be great. He showed some unexpected courage and toughness last year -- took some withering hits. Maybe not so smart on that count, I bet he had 3, 4, 5 walking concussions. But he got back up.

I just can't give up Watt. Anyone but JJ.
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You think the Broncos would trade Manning, The Patriots would trade Brady? The Vikings would trade Peterson?
To be fair, the Colts did essentially trade Manning for Luck. They could have traded their #1 pick like the Rams did with #2 to build around Manning, instead of releasing Manning and taking Luck. We'll see if that decision was right. But on the whole I agree with you in this argument of where Luck stands as of now.
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You just said it all Doc - This is a QB driven league.
To reiterate, the Texans would trade Watt for Luck (or RG3), in a heartbeat.
Rick Smith or Gary Kubiak or Bob McNair would never admit that of course, nor would they ever get the opportunity to make that deal because the Colts (or the Redskins) would never make that trade if given the opportunity.
Anybody who doesn't understand this needs to go back and take the remedial course in NFL 101. The thing is it's almost impossible to overstate the value of a "franchise QB" in the NFL.
Since this premise (that the Texans would trade Watt for Luck straight up) - as well as my opposing one (the Texans would NOT make that trade) - are equally unproveable I guess we'll have to call this a draw.

I'll reiterate, Watt is a demonstrated talent, who as the season progressed became the one guy who had to be game planned for ...and STILL he exceled. He may well be the first Texan into the Hall of Fame (I know, I know... it should be A.J. but the HoF voters seem to diss WRs)

Luck is a could-be/should be star who was drafted high, with much ballyhoo, but, stat-wise anyway, was kind of a bust.

As someone else pointed out, premier pass-rushers are just as hard to come by as premier passers. Whether you'd trade one to get the other straight up (thereby leaving a big@$$ hole no matter which one you lose) is a function of where your team is perceived to be lacking.

Kubiak & McNair seem to have faith in Schaub. At the moment. I doubt they'd trade Watt for Luck at this point in time.

If we still had Carr as our starter, you'd have a much better argument.
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You make a fine argument for Foles.... but as far as the numbers go, who knows how they would have been had he started the whole season with the Eagles.
Actually, I think my argument is weak, which brings home my point that my argument is just as strong for Foles as it is for Luck in this case since we are talking potential, upside, etc.

At this moment the same upside for Luck is the same upside that everyone - including myself - bought into with David Carr. It's buying into a concept, when really both Foles and Cousins for that matter, showed that they were just as NFL savvy and ready as rookies as Luck did. And we're not just talking stats: we're talking command on the field, poise, and the ability to improvise.
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To be fair, the Colts did essentially trade Manning for Luck. They could have traded their #1 pick like the Rams did with #2 to build around Manning, instead of releasing Manning and taking Luck. We'll see if that decision was right. But on the whole I agree with you in this argument of where Luck stands as of now.
A little different. The Broncos rolled the dice & took a position the Colts weren't ready to (obviously, they had options the Broncos did not). But if we're talking end of 2012 season Manning, I don't think the Colts take Luck with that pick.

& if they did, we'd still see PM on the field & Luck holding a clip board.
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I love JJ! No lost loyalty here. Last season, he had the most dominating season I have ever seen by a defensive player. I believe he will be deservingly the highest paid defensive player in NFL history. Not to mention, he's being a model citizen that's representing the Texans extremely well. Unfortunately, if I was presented with a Luck for JJ trade, I'd have to take it. I can understand if you wouldn't, but I would. QB's simply last longer and have more influence in the game.
Just think of it like this, how would our dline look without Watt, teams would have all day to pick our D apart. Luck may be good but i dont want to see our offense have to go TD for TD. And yes i think Watt is that big of a game changer.

So we would have a unproven QB taking charge of our offense which has more holes than QB, and losing a key piece to our Defense. This is why we just watch the games .
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The four most important positions on a football team are QB, LT, DE, and MLB.

We have the best DE in football. We also have arguably the best LT, and a Top 5 MLB.

Watt had more direct impact on football games throughout the year than any other player did. I mean seriously, go back and look. The guy straight up changed MULTIPLE games. I haven't seen a defensive player dominate a season like that game-in, game-out in my life. Granted, I'm not old enough to have watched Lawrence Taylor play, but that's what I imagine.

Worthless discussion to pass the time, I get it, but LOL. Both these players, barring injury, are going to be around for a long ****ing time.
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The four most important positions on a football team are QB, LT, DE, and MLB.

We have the best DE in football. We also have arguably the best LT, and a Top 5 MLB.

Watt had more direct impact on football games throughout the year than any other player did. I mean seriously, go back and look. The guy straight up changed MULTIPLE games. I haven't seen a defensive player dominate a season like that game-in, game-out in my life. Granted, I'm not old enough to have watched Lawrence Taylor play, but that's what I imagine.

Worthless discussion to pass the time, I get it, but LOL. Both these players, barring injury, are going to be around for a long ****ing time.
In today's pass-happy NFL, I might pick CB ahead of MLB. And, taking K.J. and J-Jo as a pair, we are set pretty well. I'd put them as best set of CBs in the AFC South.
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Would you trade JJ for Luck ? Of course you would, and in a heart beat and you'd also throw in some boot like Andre or Cushing or maybe both ?
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In today's pass-happy NFL, I might pick CB ahead of MLB. And, taking K.J. and J-Jo as a pair, we are set pretty well. I'd put them as best set of CBs in the AFC South.

I wouldn't. Our defense was COMPLETELY changed once Cushing went down. He's the defensive QB.
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I wouldn't. Our defense was COMPLETELY changed once Cushing went down. He's the defensive QB.
I won't disagree with that, but it's because of the animal that Cushing is, not because of the criticallity of the MLB position. The guys who stepped in when Cush went down were a couple of levels below him in ability and effectiveness.

Let me put it this way, if you're saying Cush is the 4th most valuable Texan because of his talent, I won't argue that. Well, not much.

But if you're saying having a stud MLB is more significant than having a pair of shutdown CBs, in today's pass-happy NFL, I can't go there with you.
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The four most important positions on a football team are QB, LT, DE, and MLB.
Change that to - the four most important positions on a football team are QB, LT, DE/OLB (scheme dependent: 4-3 or 3-4 ?), and CB.
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I wouldn't. Our defense was COMPLETELY changed once Cushing went down. He's the defensive QB.
Technically they stripped Cushing of his defensive QBing duties before the season started, under the guise of allowing him the freedom to make more plays.

Bradie James was the QB of the defense & losing him wasn't a big deal.
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