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Old 05-27-2013   #21
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This is what happens when your team drafts too well. The Texans have done a good job of building through the draft but now have to make some tough decisions on who to keep and who let go.
Yep. Good drafts are very important. But, the catch is, a few years down the road, those rookies will be looking for lucrative second contracts. It's a nice problem to have compared to where we were. I'm just saying that with drafting success comes really, really touch choices. Some players we like, like James Casey, we may not be able to keep.
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FO stability driving consistent winning results while entertaining, satisfying & rewarding its loyal fan base is key. I'm big as anyone here in draft forums but that is just one cornerstone of Texans future success. Ownership & Rick Smith are pretty set in stone the last key component is yet to be fully proved. Kubiak future & that of Texans is leveraged on Matt Schaub skill & ability to ascend a higher level of performance than I foresee possible (ye of little faith).
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Russell Wilson was a part of this class last year which had potential NFL talent at the QB position and the Texans didn't do anything except sign Keenum as an UDFA.

Andrew Luck, RG3, Tannehill, R.Wilson, Nick Foles played well as the season progressed, and even Kirk Cousins did well when RG3 was hurt.

We could have had some of that talent in later rounds. (Wilson 3rd round, and Cousins 4th round)
You missed my point entirely.

How many QBs did Indy, Washington, Seattle, or Philly draft in the 3rd or earlier rounds in 2013?

None, because they have their QBs.

& We've got ours. In 2012, we had ours. If we'd have drafted Russell Wilson, or Nick Foles, all we would have seen was them playing with our scrubs, scrubs in the preseason. & we'd still think we don't have enough talent behind Schaub.

We won 11 games in 2011, 13 games in 2012, we've only had 2 losing seasons since 2006. I know half of us believe that is due to the blind pig & the acorn theory, but maybe these guys know what they are doing.

Again, it is my opinion. Had we drafted Foles or Wilson, they would currently be our third QB & we'd have seen as much of them as we've seen of Keenum, even though we would have had to use a roster spot to keep them on the 53 & not the PS.
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I have posted many times before that i would not be surprised to see Schaub gone after 2014. I think his current deal is a beautifully handcrafted contract allowing him three years (now two) to bring home SB trophy. I am actually more focused on Myers (31) contract than AJs. He can be gone after this season with only a $4m hit and after '14 with $2m cap hit. Hopefully Ben Jones will move back to center and get some experience.

Antonio Smith's $9.5m cap hit will be gone after this season.

Wade Smith $3.75 m cap hit will be gone.

$13.25 is more than enough to resign Cushing if we want him. Until we know he is Cushing of old, I have a ? placed beside his name.

When Watt's deal is up after 2014, OD is gone saving $6.25 m
Manning's $6m is gone . Ed Reed's $5.33 should be gone (cap hit about $1m).
Brooks Reed $1.5m will be gone. Total = about $18m saved.

We just need to keep drafting well.
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All for it EXCEPT the cutting AJ part, sure the guy is getting older and his production will decline a bit BUT with all he has done for this team and how he has been faithful to this city by putting the team first i do not want to see AJ cut EVER. I believe he should leave the team and city when he is ready to hang up the pads. I dont want to be one of those teams. Even at 34 he can still be a threat maybe not as a #1. Just would leave a bad taste in my mouth if we did that. Not to mention it wouldnt be like when they held onto players like Carr, T Johnson, Okoye to long. This guy has given his all for this city and team. Let him decide when its time.
I used to agree 100% with you .... but these guys make SO much $$$ ... it's not like he will go into the poor house if he gets cuts ... they just need to do it with class and honoring his contribution to the team. Have to do what's best overall for the team...
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FO stability driving consistent winning results while entertaining, satisfying & rewarding its loyal fan base is key. I'm big as anyone here in draft forums but that is just one cornerstone of Texans future success. Ownership & Rick Smith are pretty set in stone the last key component is yet to be fully proved. Kubiak future & that of Texans is leveraged on Matt Schaub skill & ability to ascend a higher level of performance than I foresee possible (ye of little faith).
Kubiak and Schaub are Not joined at the hip.

Considering the performance Kubiak got out of Schaub despite his limitations ..... I think he's more than earned an opportunity beyond Schaub's tenure as a Texan.

I know - Schaub sux and Kubiak is too conservative ....
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I guess the plan is to win the Superbowl in 2 years when it comes to Houston ..... :P


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Does anyone here think the Texans can win the SUperbowl this year ..??????
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I guess the plan is to win the Superbowl in 2 years when it comes to Houston ..... :P


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Does anyone here think the Texans can win the SUperbowl this year ..??????
Depends on which Schaub we get; the one from before the foot injury or the loser who couldn't buy us a passing TD in the later part of the season. For us to win a SB next year a lot of stars have to align perfectly:

- Schaub DOES NOT EFF UP!!!
- Cushing stays healthy and does not miss where he left off
- Foster beasts in the playoffs
- Andre beasts in the playoffs
- JJ Watt continues to beast in the playoffs
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Does anyone here think the Texans can win the SUperbowl this year ..??????
Short answer is yes. There is a handful of teams, and the Texans should be among them this year, that will be in the conversation.

The long answer is, it depends on many factors. Besides being good, a team has to get fairly lucky to win the Superbowl.

If the Texans don't lose too many key contributors to injuries, they'll have a better shot.
If the ball bounces their way more often than their opponents', they'll have a better chance.
If the refs don't make too many costly mistakes against the Texans, they'll have a better chance.
Oh, and all of that is on top of everybody on the team doing their job every week, from coaches game planning, to players executing.

There are probably many other factors out of the coaches' and players' control that will affect their chances. IMO, the best effort on everyone's part only gives you the best opportunity to win. You need a few lucky breaks along the way and to get hot at the right time. It seems to happen almost every year, Ravens last year (lucky to beat Denver and got hot at the right time), NYG the year before (barely made the playoffs, then got hot), and then GB the year before (barely made the playoffs but started clicking at the right time).

I'm not saying any of this to diminish the work the team does. That is obviously necessary and important. And, as those things ARE in your control, getting them right is your job, and doing a good job improves your chance for a win.
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Short answer is yes. There is a handful of teams, and the Texans should be among them this year, that will be in the conversation.

The long answer is, it depends on many factors. Besides being good, a team has to get fairly lucky to win the Superbowl.

If the Texans don't lose too many key contributors to injuries, they'll have a better shot.
I can only think of two games last year, where I said, "We kicked their a55!!!" Denver & Baltimore. Other than that, our Texans were a mere shadow of themselves, but through the first 12 weeks of the season they were thought to be the best team in the NFL.

If we can get that OL working the way Kubiak wants it to work I think we can work through a lot of those things we think "has" to happen & still win a Super Bowl.

I know people didn't like it when we went "conservative" or when Kubiak "turtled" up. But I don't think he was trying to be conservative. I think he wants this to be a team that can impose it's will on the other team, offensively as well as defensively. & when we can run the ball the way we should, it opens up the offense.

I think he's stubborn for it & whatever, but whatever. We'll win a SuperBowl & I think it is highly possible we can win it all in 2013.
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YEA! Cap room for Cush! And not a bad way to get there. Mr. Smiff has been ballin' these past couple of seasons and I don't see him really dropping off.
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YEA! Cap room for Cush! And not a bad way to get there. Mr. Smiff has been ballin' these past couple of seasons and I don't see him really dropping off.
Agreed. 2011 was a career for him. 2012 was a career year as well. & it's not like he waited until a contract year to show up. Wade's got him doing what he likes to do & he's eating it up.

Love his attitude, serious when he has to be, willing to lighten up when needed, & he'll bust your a55 if you cross the line, penalty or no.

If we can keep him on the dole, I don't doubt he'll continue to give us 120%

The old man's been to the SuperBowl once, I'm sure he's biting (champing??) at the bit to get there again & finish the job this time.
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Does anyone here think the Texans can win the SUperbowl this year ..??????
Yes. I do.
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I guess the plan is to win the Superbowl in 2 years when it comes to Houston ..... :P


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Does anyone here think the Texans can win the SUperbowl this year ..??????
I see that math still isn't your strong suit!

The next Super Bowl will be in 2014. Houston hosts the game in 2017. How do you get 2 years, or even 2 seasons out of that?

Just messin with ya, Norg.

Yes, I do think the Texans can win a Super Bowl this year. We'll need to get some luck and a break from the injury bug, though. That bug has been brutal for a few years now.
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