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When you are a first-round pick, all eyes in the media are on you which make it hard to be a secret. Kareem Jackson was drafted in 2010 and in two years slowly faded into the background while free agent pickups Johnathan Joseph and Danieal Manning became the stars of Houston’s secondary.

In his case the third year was the charm, as he starred in a secondary that, as a unit, didn’t live up to expectations. While some fans may have given up on Jackson and prematurely given him the bust tag, the Texans stuck with him and his third year was his best. Houston has some great young players on their defense, and after you see why he is the Texans Secret Superstar, you’ll know why Jackson is one of the up and coming defensive stars.
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Wait.... I'm confused... I thought he was the Texans' "weak link" as mentioned in the article discussed in another thread?
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Wait.... I'm confused... I thought he was the Texans' "weak link" as mentioned in the article discussed in another thread?
LOL...I'll take PFF's word over TBR any day of the week.
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LOL...I'll take PFF's word over TBR any day of the week.
It was clear the other guy didn't watch any Texans games last year. Probably just heard about their secondary problems and KJ struggling in the two years before that.
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But, but...... Bleacher Report() said Kareem is a weakness???

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The Texans have hit on recent first round draft picks with Brian Cushing, Jackson, and J.J. Watt. The jury is still out on Whitney Mercilus, and they have also used three recent second round picks on defense. The few positions that aren’t filled with a young up and coming player are filled with known veterans. This defense looks like it can be one of the best not only this year, but years to come if they can develop their young players correctly. Jackson is one of the big pieces of the puzzle.

He is just another reminder that you shouldn’t be too quick to judge young players. With enough time to develop, they could still become a superstar even if they have a slow start.
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If Kareem continues to improve, expect JJoe to be moved or cut
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If Kareem continues to improve, expect JJoe to be moved or cut
We'll have to wait & see how the contracts play out. If either of them are interested in getting the biggest contract possible, that guy will be moving on. While Bob ain't cheap, we're not going to overpay for anyone..... including JjWatt.

Don't get me wrong, if Kj & Jjo continue to play well, they'll deserve to get paid. Like I said, Bob will be more than willing to pay, but I doubt we'll make either of them the highest paid CB in the league, warranted or no.

We'll also have to develop another starting corner.
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We'll have to wait & see how the contracts play out. If either of them are interested in getting the biggest contract possible, that guy will be moving on. While Bob & cheap, we're not going to overpay for anyone..... including JjWatt.

Don't get me wrong, if Kj & Jjo continue to play well, they'll deserve to get paid. Like I said, Bob will be more than willing to pay, but I doubt we'll make either of them the highest paid CB in the league, warranted or no.

We'll also have to develop another starting corner.
I don't see JJ going anywhere at all for the next 6 years or so. McNair and Smithiak have been pretty prudent on who they spend money on but they do pay the ones they feel deserve it. Even if they have to restructure their deals every year or two.

I see KJ getting retained over JJo, though. Much younger in football years and should be ready to be a #1 CB by that time with maybe Harris or Carmichael ready to be a #2.
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If Kareem continues to improve, expect JJoe to be moved or cut
His salary cap is flat over the next three seasons. Why get rid of him in his prime?
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His salary cap is flat over the next three seasons. Why get rid of him in his prime?
I thought it would help since the cap situation wont be good for another few years
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A lot of us on this forum are happily eating crow right now and I hope it's justified. KJ has had one good year out of three but has consistently shown signs of improving and year three is the normal time to start really judging draft picks. I hope year 4 is an improvement over year 3.

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I don't see JJ going anywhere at all for the next 6 years or so. McNair and Smithiak have been pretty prudent on who they spend money on but they do pay the ones they feel deserve it. Even if they have to restructure their deals every year or two.
Mario got $100M, by the time JjWatt comes up there will be teams willing to give him $150M. He'll definitely have earned a big payday, but nothing like that. I don't think Jj will be looking for it though, so that will be the difference.

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I see KJ getting retained over JJo, though. Much younger in football years and should be ready to be a #1 CB by that time with maybe Harris or Carmichael ready to be a #2.
We'll see. Jjo may not be asking for anything more than what he's worth. The stars may align & RickSmith's valuation may match Jjo's & we'll keep both.

Y'know, the only thing better than winning a SuperBowl is winning two.
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Mario got $100M, by the time JjWatt comes up there will be teams willing to give him $150M. He'll definitely have earned a big payday, but nothing like that. I don't think Jj will be looking for it though, so that will be the difference.
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Any right minded GM would give Watt what he wants if he continues to put up dominant/elite seasons as a defensive linemen. Mario, while really good, just doesn't have the same motor/consistency like Watt. Only way Watt leaves Houston is because he wants to leave.
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I don't care what anyone says, Joseph has to play better next year. I understand he had injuries he was dealing with but that was his knock in Cinci. If he plays up to his potential and KJ continues to improve then it makes this defense a whole lot better. JJoe can be a top 3 CB in this league as he proved in 2011 IMO and grouping that with what we've added in the secondary will make us lethal.

Now we just need to get our sub packages together.
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Mario got $100M, by the time JjWatt comes up there will be teams willing to give him $150M. He'll definitely have earned a big payday, but nothing like that. I don't think Jj will be looking for it though, so that will be the difference.



We'll see. Jjo may not be asking for anything more than what he's worth. The stars may align & RickSmith's valuation may match Jjo's & we'll keep both.

Y'know, the only thing better than winning a SuperBowl is winning two.
I don't see JJ being motivated by money as much as championships. He knows he needs to leave a little on the bone to keep talent around him. Plus. he's made quite a home in Houston. JJ seems to be that rare individual who's more cattle than hat. I see them signing JJ to a record contract over many years, but I also think it will be as cap-friendly as possible.
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We'll have to wait & see how the contracts play out. If either of them are interested in getting the biggest contract possible, that guy will be moving on. While Bob ain't cheap, we're not going to overpay for anyone..... including JjWatt.

Don't get me wrong, if Kj & Jjo continue to play well, they'll deserve to get paid. Like I said, Bob will be more than willing to pay, but I doubt we'll make either of them the highest paid CB in the league, warranted or no.

We'll also have to develop another starting corner.
JJ Watt isn't going anywhere. Possibly the best defensive player for the next 10 years.

He can ask for a blank check if he wants and that's exactly what he'll get.

JJ Watt said in an interview (Before his DPOY award) that he has higher goals than just DPOY. He's looking for MVP of the league. (And obviously a Super Bowl ring)

You don't set your goals that high unless you realistically plan on reaching them. If a defensive player can actually win the MVP award then he's just that good and completely deserving of any amount of money that he wants. Keeping him is going to be an obstacle.

As far as JJo and KJax, you saw JJo get burnt more and more often as opposed to KJax who improved EVEN more after each game. If they are saving money for JJ Watt then they might need to let JJo go at some point IF (and only if) it can save them money.

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Any right minded GM would give Watt what he wants if he continues to put up dominant/elite seasons as a defensive linemen. Mario, while really good, just doesn't have the same motor/consistency like Watt. Only way Watt leaves Houston is because he wants to leave.
Mario was on the lower end of the "good" scale. Watt is on the high end of "great". There's a very high likelihood that he'll be the 1st Texan inducted into the HOF. Mario will only get in there with a ticket.

McNair will make sure JJ stays in Houston.
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I don't see JJ being motivated by money as much as championships. He knows he needs to leave a little on the bone to keep talent around him. Plus. he's made quite a home in Houston. JJ seems to be that rare individual who's more cattle than hat. I see them signing JJ to a record contract over many years, but I also think it will be as cap-friendly as possible.
Pretty much what I said..... so, I agree. Or you're right, whichever makes you feel better.
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Mario got $100M, by the time JjWatt comes up there will be teams willing to give him $150M. He'll definitely have earned a big payday, but nothing like that. I don't think Jj will be looking for it though, so that will be the difference.
Watt (and all first round picks) has an option the Texans can pick up for a 5th year that will be the average of the top 10 salaries at his position (less than the franchise amount). That amount should be low enough to then be able to apply the franchise tag to JJ in year 6 without having to go over the stipulated amount due to the 20% rule.

Do I think it will play out this way - no I don't. I think that the Texans will find a way to keep JJ without having to tag him. But do I think they'll let him go after year 4 or 5 to keep from having to use these things? Absolutely not.

I don't see even a remote possibility of JJ getting on the open market until 2017.
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You don't set your goals that high unless you realistically plan on reaching them. If a defensive player can actually win the MVP award then he's just that good and completely deserving of any amount of money that he wants. Keeping him is going to be an obstacle.
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