Originally Posted by deucetx
I doubt he'll have a breakout year as well but still not seeing where he has to. Just like you brought up the defense played poor when Cody was out but Cody could have been healthy it wouldn't have mattered. He wouldn't have been on the field anyway but partially. The NT is not out there for the spread formations so his presence would have meant little hence what I disagree on. Plus Mitchell's grades in those games were actually positive. In fact, he has had more positive graded games than Cody.
Even in 2011 in a possible 1168 defensive snaps Cody got only 451. I would say the fact time was shared means Mitchell actually did show the coaches something otherwise he wouldn't have seen so much time. When Cody was down did Mitchell have to share time? Nope because no one else warranted it except spot duty.
Since we're talking PFF:
2011 Cody ranked 62nd among DT/NT Overall grade -2.8
2011 Mitchell ranked 64th among DT/NT Overall grade -3.4
Not much difference there.
2012 Cody ranked 63rd Overall grade -4.0
2012 Mitchell ranked 47th Overall grade 1.8
So actually Mitchell's PFF grade did improve unless you're going back to the time before Wade. I'm only focusing on the time with Wade here in a new defensive approach and a coach who actually knows how to tie his shoes unlike the previous incarnations we had here lol.
In any case it illustrates an actual improvement on Mitchell's part. Plus I guess I just find the whole Cody thing a reach. He wasn't good. He was a below average guy in this defense that had a moment here and there so I just can't see how Mitchell can't do the same thing. He already has actually so to me the only difference is we had two servicable guys at the spot where as now we only have one that we know of.
Guess comes down to how you want to view it. Are you looking for a heavy impact guy or someone servicable? Cody was only servicable and I am probably being generous saying that. I don't expect Mitchell to be anything more than that. Anything more is gravy which always is a good topping.
Anyway, nice talk! Feel like I drag it off topic lol. Thanks for the updates from all by the way.
Yeah, I think we mostly agree. That there isn't going to be a breakout Mitchell season. The reason why I mentioned it was because I heard some media person talk about how great Mitchell looked and breakout season this and that, and I was wondering where that was coming from.
I think the idea of two serviceable guys to one serviceable guy and a bunch of question marks is a concern.
Can't find the quote, but I also believe that Wade talked about the difficulty of having fewer guys available for a defensive rotation when Cody was out. And that they were better when he became available.