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Old 05-06-2013   #41
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Cushing and JJ were not a 105 years old.
Reed looks GREAT for 105, I gotta say.
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You can be sure that if his hip was bothering him in April, it was bothering him at the end of the season. Whatever pathology was there at the time of surgery was there at the time we signed him.......and at a time that he would have supposedly had a "thorough" evaluation by the medical staff. He had a major hip labrum reconstruction in April 2010..........having had problems for at least 6 months prior to giving into the surgery. His injury required an iliotibial band graft. For those that don’t understand the implication of the use of this graft, it is used to reconstruct large absent/unsalvageable portions of the labrum........meaning that the labrum was destroyed and could not be simply “cleaned up”/trimmed and tacked back down to the underlying structures (which is the most common type of surgery required).


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http://www.masnsports.com/dan_kolko/...uncertain.html

It is not a good sign that the same hip required ANY further surgery. Approximately 75% of those returning for arthroscopic labral tear/“revision” result in the findings of additional significant cartilage damage. Keep in mind that studies have found that anywhere from 1 out of 4 to 1 out of 3 of those undergoing major hip labrum reconstruction go on to require hip replacement by 4-5 years following their initial INJURY not surgery.

All we can realistically do at this time is hope for the best.
It's the other hip..

“He has had this issue on the other side before, so once it started happening, that's when we got aggressive in what we needed to do to get him ready to play this season."


http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...6-ffc772585adf
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Texans a 'little concerned' about Ed Reed's hip surgery


Did Reed conceal this injury?
Is this an reocuring injury?
Where do the Texans go from here?
Sign another vet?
Reed underwent a lengthy physical when he visited the Texans before agreeing to sign in Houston. This wasn’t an issue that came up then.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...at-the-latest/

They gave him a lengthy physical. This is something that probably just started bothering him a bit and they wanted to nip it as soon as they could. We're lucky it was minor and not the same hip as 2010.
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So when do we get to start callling Ed The Six Million Dollar Man?
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It's the other hip..

“He has had this issue on the other side before, so once it started happening, that's when we got aggressive in what we needed to do to get him ready to play this season."


http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...6-ffc772585adf
I read that last night. Most of my previous posts still stand re. the originally injured hip, and a "minor" tear of a contralateral hip (cartilaginous damage). With this confirmation of the new tear being on the contralateral hip, there brings into play the possibility of presence of a classic "triad" which is not uncommonly closely associated with these injuries.........i.e., hip labral tears, rectus abdominis tears, and adductor strains in NFL players have come to be formally coined the “Sports Hip Triad.” There is nothing to be getting relaxed about by the revelation of any additional injuries to Reed's hip, even though it is on the other side. It only affirms progression of an injury history. Yet time will tell what affect it has in terms of short-term and long-term performance.
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Beginning to sound like we got taken to the cleaners a bit on this.

One of the benefits of having Reed in the fold was supposed to be his mentoring our young guys. Now it sounds like he won't be around to do that, perhaps until middle of training camp. That's a lot of missed opportunity for "Coach" Reed's contribution.
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Beginning to sound like we got taken to the cleaners a bit on this.

One of the benefits of having Reed in the fold was supposed to be his mentoring our young guys. Now it sounds like he won't be around to do that, perhaps until middle of training camp. That's a lot of missed opportunity for "Coach" Reed's contribution.
Getting taken to the cleaners would mean he was out for the year or most of it, including the playoffs. He's not even going to miss much of training camp.
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HoustonTexans.com reported that Ed Reed will be ready for TC.

Also, both Kubiak and Wade said that Cushing is looking good and ready to go.
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So when do we get to start callling Ed The Six Million Dollar Man?
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Just great! We thought we were getting this:






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HoustonTexans.com reported that Ed Reed will be ready for TC.
The Texans are never very truthful when it comes to injuries and how much time a player could miss. It doesn't mean Reed won't be ready for tc but it sure doesn'r mean he will either.
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Earlier I voiced my strong concern over Ed Reed's "minor" surgery......and postoperative length of return to play/performance progression. Remember my emphatic statement that if he had the problem in April, he had the problem during the end of the season.....whether he hid it from the Texans, and the Texans missed it, or they minimized it and hoped he could simply rehab through it.

Dr. First was interviewed on 610 earlier today and had very much the same concerns.

Minimization is easy as seen by statements such as John McClain's on 610 this hour where he stated that it was JUST a "scope." Well, John, full major hip labrum reconstructions using grafts are now routinely performed through the arthroscope.
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DocBar, from my recollection of our discussions, your surgery did not involve a graft harvested from a remote site. Is my memory faulty?
Your memory is spot on, as usual. Mine was simply a clean up job that did wonders. I feel like a 42 year old now.
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Earlier I voiced my strong concern over Ed Reed's "minor" surgery......and postoperative length of return to play/performance progression. Remember my emphatic statement that if he had the problem in April, he had the problem during the end of the season.....whether he hid it from the Texans, and the Texans missed it, or they minimized it and hoped he could simply rehab through it.

Dr. First was interviewed on 610 earlier today and had very much the same concerns.

Minimization is easy as seen by statements such as John McClain's on 610 this hour where he stated that it was JUST a "scope." Well, John, full major hip labrum reconstructions using grafts are now routinely performed through the arthroscope.
Doc, I'm almost afraid to read your posts sometimes. Its like when Dr. James Andrews is mentioned regarding a player. Its almost always bad news. You're the expert here, but I'm just hoping he'll be able to give us 1 good season.
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Earlier I voiced my strong concern over Ed Reed's "minor" surgery......and postoperative length of return to play/performance progression. Remember my emphatic statement that if he had the problem in April, he had the problem during the end of the season.....whether he hid it from the Texans, and the Texans missed it, or they minimized it and hoped he could simply rehab through it.

Dr. First was interviewed on 610 earlier today and had very much the same concerns.

Minimization is easy as seen by statements such as John McClain's on 610 this hour where he stated that it was JUST a "scope." Well, John, full major hip labrum reconstructions using grafts are now routinely performed through the arthroscope.
I used to feel the same way about scopes until my latest shoulder surgery. Good grief! It took practically a year to get right. I reckon new technology allows docs to do a lot more work with "scopes". I had 4 anchors put in for the labrum tear, labral cyst removed, rotator cuff tear (forgot how many stitches) and a clavicle resection done all by scope.

My 1st surgery on my left shoulder was done back in the 90's. I can't remember what all was done, but before the surgery I used to wake up in the morning with my arm out of socket. Needless to say, I waited waaay too long to get it repaired. After the first 3 dislocations I could put my arm back into socket myself lol. Anywho, the scar after that one wraps from just under my armpit up to the top of the shoulder. Could that have been done by scope these days? I dunno
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Why does this song come to mind when I read Dr. CND's posts about Reed?

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Default Re: Ed Reed will miss OTA's due to hip surgery.

The unfortunate bit about getting medical opinions on athletes is that the only guys who are really qualified to answer pointed questions about a players health (aka the guys who have actually seen Ed Reed's chart) aren't legally allowed to talk about such things on public places like internet forums or radio.

While I do not doubt the knowledge of CnD or Dr. First, and I myself believe that we won't be seeing Reed during training camp, all of us are basically guessing. Some are more educated guesses than others, but in the end these are guesses that are based off of heresay, rumors and news articles, and not an actual examination of the player themselves.
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Check out this article about Reed from profootballtalk.com. If this ends up keeping Reed out into the season it could get ugly.

Here is an excerpt from the article:

"it’s amazing that more hasn’t been said about Reed’s ability to sign a multi-year deal with the Texans despite a not-insignificant condition about which his new team didn’t know"

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...arently-didnt/
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From the 2011 CBA FYI


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ARTICLE 44
INJURY GRIEVANCE
Section 1. Definition: An "Injury Grievance" is a claim or complaint that, at the time a
player's NFL Player Contract or Practice Squad Player Contract was terminated by a
Club, the player was physically unable to perform the services required of him by that
contract because of an injury incurred in the performance of his services under that
contract. All time limitations in this Article may be extended by mutual agreement of the
parties.
Section 2. Filing: Any player and/or the NFLP A must present an Injury Grievance in
writing to a Club, with a copy to the Management Council, within twenty-five (25) days
from the date it became known or should have become known to the player that his
contract had been terminated. The grievance will set forth the approximate date of the
alleged injury and its general nature. If a grievance is ftled by a player without the involvement
of the NFLP A, the Management Council will prompdy send copies of the
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Section 3. Answer:
(a) The Club to which an Injury Grievance has been presented will answer in
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grounds for such denial will be set forth. The answer may raise any special defense, including
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(1) That the player did not pass the physical examination administered by the
Club physician at the beginning of the preseason training camp for the year in question.
This defense will not be available if: (i) the Player was injured during offseason workouts
at the club facility under the direction of a club official prior to not passing the physical
examination or (ii) the player participated in any team drills following his physical examination
or in any preseason or regular season game; provided, however, that the Club
physician may require the player to undergo certain exercises or activities, not team drills,
to determine whether the player will pass the physical examination;
(2) That the player failed to make full and complete disclosure of his known
physical or mental condition when questioned during a physical examination by the
Club;

(3) That the player's injury occurred prior to the physical examination and
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subsequent to the physical examination;
(5) That subsequent to the physical examination the player suffered no new
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