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Old 05-05-2013   #21
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Default Re: Ed Reed will miss OTA's due to hip surgery.

I had arthroscopic hip surgery in Aug. 2009 for femoral-acetabular impingement and articular and labrum tears in my right hip. I was on crutches for 2 weeks and rehabbed for a month. I felt better the day after surgery than the day before. I'm not overly concerned about Reed's surgery. I would let him rehab it till training camp or longer. Reed is a smart veteran that can learn the defense from the sidelines.
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I had arthroscopic hip surgery in Aug. 2009 for femoral-acetabular impingement and articular and labrum tears in my right hip. I was on crutches for 2 weeks and rehabbed for a month. I felt better the day after surgery than the day before. I'm not overly concerned about Reed's surgery. I would let him rehab it till training camp or longer. Reed is a smart veteran that can learn the defense from the sidelines.
DocBar, from my recollection of our discussions, your surgery did not involve a graft harvested from a remote site. Is my memory faulty?
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Default Re: Ed Reed will miss OTA's due to hip surgery.

As far as I am concerned , Ed Reed can sit out the entire training camp, which I bet he milks this until end of TC, as long as he is good to go Game 1 of the season.

I think it is stupid for veterans, especially 10 + year vets, to have to attend training camp, or at least partial camp. What are you going to teach a 10 + year vet that he doesn't already know?
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Default Re: Ed Reed will miss OTA's due to hip surgery.

Keep in mind the previous hip injury was in 2010 and he played 10 games. 2011 & 2012 played 16 games each with 52 and 58 tackles respectfully. I am not worried.
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Texans a 'little concerned' about Ed Reed's hip surgery

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Following Ed Reed's recent hip surgery, we got the "minor" and "will be ready for camp" routine. This ignored the fact that Reed turns 35 in September and he had surgery on his hip. It's always minor when it's someone else.

A few days after the news first broke, the Houston Texans are already sounding more realistic. Owner Bob McNair admitted Monday that Reed might not be ready until "the middle" of training camp, according to Nick Scurfield of HoustonTexans.com.

Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips admitted he's a "little concerned" with Reed's surgery because of the timing. Reed didn't undergo surgery right after the season, presumably because it wouldn't be a good look as he searched for a new team in free agency. The delay could wind up costing Reed the entire OTA/minicamp season in addition to a chunk of the preseason.

Reed has been a very durable player throughout his career, but there's reason to think he'll only last one season in Houston.
Did Reed conceal this injury?
Is this an reocuring injury?
Where do the Texans go from here?
Sign another vet?
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Did Reed conceal this injury?
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Default Re: Ed Reed will miss OTA's due to hip surgery.

The Texans need to be patient with Reed. His importance to the team won't be during the beginning of the season anyway. The overall goal should be having him healthy by Week 1. If he's ready before then, well great. If its a week or 2 after week 1 then its no big deal IMO. We do need him healthy towards the latter half of the season and into the playoffs though. No reason to rush him at this point.
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Not what I mean. If Reed gone yes DJ steps in but the huge problem is who steps in for DJ as 3rd safety. I really don't want to see more of Keo.
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Stephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley 14m Think #Texans fans putting Boselli/A Green on Ed Reed overlearning lessons. Each player unique. That said, buyer beware on $100 Reed jersey.
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Didn't we do a physical on him?

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Didn't we do a physical on him?
That sounds like it was a known issue that wasn't bothering him when we did the physical. Then after we signed him, he started having some pain or something and so we jumped on it aggressively.

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http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...-headlines?r=1

Coach Gary Kubiak acknowledged Monday that the Texans did not expect FS Ed Reed to need hip surgery when they signed him in March.
On March 20, the Texans signed (Ahman Green) Reed to a three-year, $15 million deal with $6 million guaranteed. "We didn't expect it, but it started bothering him," said Kubiak. "That's when we got aggressive in what we needed to do." It's believed owner Bob McNair was the driving force behind the Texans' pursuit of Reed after the club lost Glover Quin and Connor Barwin in free agency. McNair conceded Monday that Reed may not be ready for training camp.
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Hate to say I told you so but ....
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Hate to say I told you so but ....
You seem to have forgotten that we also drafted a hard hitting safety in the 2nd round. Reed will come back, but either way DJ will benefit from the additional playing time and attention from the coaches.
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That sounds like it was a known issue that wasn't bothering him when we did the physical. Then after we signed him, he started having some pain or something and so we jumped on it aggressively.

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You can be sure that if his hip was bothering him in April, it was bothering him at the end of the season. Whatever pathology was there at the time of surgery was there at the time we signed him.......and at a time that he would have supposedly had a "thorough" evaluation by the medical staff. He had a major hip labrum reconstruction in April 2010..........having had problems for at least 6 months prior to giving into the surgery. His injury required an iliotibial band graft. For those that don’t understand the implication of the use of this graft, it is used to reconstruct large absent/unsalvageable portions of the labrum........meaning that the labrum was destroyed and could not be simply “cleaned up”/trimmed and tacked back down to the underlying structures (which is the most common type of surgery required).


From June 25, 2010:

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http://www.masnsports.com/dan_kolko/...uncertain.html

It is not a good sign that the same hip required ANY further surgery. Approximately 75% of those returning for arthroscopic labral tear/“revision” result in the findings of additional significant cartilage damage. Keep in mind that studies have found that anywhere from 1 out of 4 to 1 out of 3 of those undergoing major hip labrum reconstruction go on to require hip replacement by 4-5 years following their initial INJURY not surgery.

All we can realistically do at this time is hope for the best.
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Hate to say I told you so but ....
Just a quick browse of your posting history and I only saw one injury related post from you and it was about his neck.


As a matter of fact you were insistent that Reed wasn't signing here. Your last post since this one was about how Reed wasn't signing here.

Who told who so again?
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Why I only had one caveat: A bonus structure in his contract for games played, for example.

AJ had an escalation in his contract!
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Default Re: Ed Reed will miss OTA's due to hip surgery.

JJ Watt did pretty well without playing in preseason last year.

Cushing too in his rookie year...
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JJ Watt did pretty well without playing in preseason last year.

Cushing too in his rookie year...
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