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Old 05-05-2013   #41
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Are there any other data points that show marriage is bad for a QB?

The Mannings have thought they hung the moon. Of course they were right in thinking so. Basically, it still boils down to whether you can play or not.
Name another QB besides his brother who was married by his junior year in college . I think if you draft him , pa and the gang will probably want to go to practice with him so he can get there late and leave early .

This excludes Aikman of course cause that kind of marriage wasn't legal then .

I found one guy and that was Phillip Rivers .
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Name another QB besides his brother who was married by his junior year in college .
Probably a lot of BYU QBs. So what? I still don't get your point. There were probably a lot of players that got drafted last week that had children but weren't married. That alone doesn't make them good or bad players. You're off on a weird tangent here.
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Correct me if I am wrong but David wasn't expected to be a 1st round pick after his junior year was he? - really pretty much blew up his senior season.

More specifically, what do you mean by more careless?

Does he see the middle of the field? - David sucked at that.
That's correct, David Carr had some big games in his senior year where Fresno upset some top 20 teams and moved him up the draft board. Don't know if Derek can get that kind of push in 2013, as Fresno has a pretty soft schedule outside of Boise State.

By more careless, I mean Derek tries to do do much and extend a play that's not there. Which can cause a sack or a strip. Or just throw into coverage and locking onto a receiver. The middle of the field is neither's strength. But if you look at most college offenses, they are centered around the edges of the field.
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Probably a lot of BYU QBs. So what? I still don't get your point. There were probably a lot of players that got drafted last week that had children but weren't married. That alone doesn't make them good or bad players. You're off on a weird tangent here.
You can't serve two masters and to be a good NFL QB , you have to be the first one there and the last to leave . Most guys try to get established in the league first or they are the Joe Namath / Tom Brady type which plays well in the locker room .
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WTF.
I think Reed is at best an average OLB that can be replaced. His stats (not everything but a measurable) dropped drastically missing 4 games in 2012 and he was averaging many less tackles than 2012. Off year? 2013 will tell.
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Would Richardson or Nix be available at 32nd pick in the 1st rd?
Watching NT Jesse Williams and the QBs drop this draft guarantees that nothing can be gauranteed. Nix had a pretty good 2012 and was not even mentioned on some mocks. Last I looked he was not on NFLdraftscout.com for 2014. I want to mock him as a second round but another good year would be hard to keep him out of first and maybe out of our reach.
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Watching NT Jesse Williams and the QBs drop this draft guarantees that nothing can be gauranteed. Nix had a pretty good 2012 and was not even mentioned on some mocks. Last I looked he was not on NFLdraftscout.com for 2014. I want to mock him as a second round but another good year would be hard to keep him out of first and maybe out of our reach.
IMO Nix's stock took a hit with the performance of ND in the Nat'l game. He is the ND NT if I am not mistaken right?
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IMO Nix's stock took a hit with the performance of ND in the Nat'l game. He is the ND NT if I am not mistaken right?
Right guy but he was never on draftscout and did not show on Walter until late. That puzzles me. I really like the kid.
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bb- nfldraftscout does things by year. All the Seniors are ranked together, the Juniors are ranked together, and the Sophs are ranked together. Only when they declare for the draft are they put on one list.
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1. Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina, Jr.: The ultimate game-changer on defense, Clowney would have been a first-rounder had he been draft-eligible after his freshman season. Clowney then excelled in 2012, elevating his status as the 2014 No. 1 favorite.

2: Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama, Jr.: A potential top-five pick in next year's draft, the 6-foot-6, 310-pound Kouandjio is everything you're looking for in a left tackle.

3. Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M, Sr.: We know Matthews has the bloodlines, but he also has the game. He's shifting over from right tackle to left tackle for his senior season.

6. Loucheiz Purifoy, CB, Florida, Jr.: He's a pure cover cornerback with good size and an explosive athlete to boot. The Gators also will play him at receiver next season.

7. Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M, RSo.: Yes, Manziel is shorter than the NFL typically likes its quarterbacks, but do measurables really matter when you make as many plays as Johnny Football does?

8. Dominique Easley, DT, Florida, Sr.: Easley is fully recovered from the torn ACL he suffered at the end of the 2011 season. He's sliding inside to tackle next season and will be a force for the Gators.

10. C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama, Sr.: As the saying goes, he's a football player. Mosley is a sure tackler. He's excellent in coverage and is always money whenever Alabama needs a big play.

11. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama, Jr.: In the past four drafts, Alabama has produced four first-round selections in the secondary. Clinton-Dix could be the top safety off the board next year.

12. Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M, RSo.: In his first season in the SEC, the 6-5, 225-pound Evans was sensational with 82 catches and 1,105 yards. He'll be even better his second time through.

13. AJ McCarron, QB, Alabama, Sr.: Sure, he's been surrounded by great talent, but McCarron also has an NFL arm, delivers in the clutch and takes care of the football.

15. Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss, Jr.: One of the more underrated players in the SEC, the 6-3, 215-pound Moncrief has a knack for finding the end zone with 14 touchdowns in his first two seasons.

20: Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia, Sr.: The opinions are mixed on Murray, who's bearing down on several SEC records. His numbers speak for themselves, and so does the way he approaches the game.
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I just don't see Manziel coming out especially next year which is deeper in QBs. I think the college life will attract him another year minimum but hope he comes out as that would push my guy (Fales) down to us in second.
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Ha'Shean is a baller.
Clowney is a terror.

I was on Murray since his Sophomore year.
Dude knows how to play QB.
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Watch out for the receiver from Vandy.
Jordan Matthews is Jerry Rice's cousin.

He's not really athletic, but he just makes play.

It looks like some of these receivers lack the elite speed, but they are good receivers.

One of them is Hoffman from BYU who has the size and the smoothness.

Another is Devin Street (Pittsburgh) who is simply a natural receiver.
He has good football IQ and is a fierce blocker.
The Texans can do well with him if Posey doesn't make it back.

Norwood (Alabama) showed some flashes.
I'd like to see if be takes the next step.
Or will he continue to be overshadowed by Amari Cooper?
This guy looks really good as a freshman.
Will he come out as a sophomore with a big year?

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What's the rule on posting ESPN Insider information? I'll just post part of it and we will find out.

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2 Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville

He's not a finished product, but that's what should excite evaluators about Bridgewater. Bridgewater never looks overwhelmed, and comfortably works his eyes across the field. When he sees a target -- or more likely, a receiver who will come open -- he has a quick release, plenty of arm strength and good ball placement. He has a chance to have a huge year.

3 Marqise Lee, WR, USC

That USC had several good weapons in the passing game last season didn't stop defenses from paying extra attention to Lee, but it didn't matter. He has the ability to separate with speed and as an effective route-runner. He's dropped a few easy ones, but makes most routine catches and can play bigger than his size. Dangerous after the catch. He's also physical and could've been a top safety if he'd chosen that direction.

4 Cyrus Kouandjio, LT, Alabama

A natural pass-protector with quick feet, long arms and the ability to sit down and absorb rushers, Kouandjio held down the left side of a dominant Alabama offensive line in 2012. He's only going to get stronger, which makes his future exceedingly bright. Could be drafted before he turns 21.

7 Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame

One of those players with the rare size and skills to handle a zero-technique role, Nix can keep multiple blockers occupied and make life easy for linebackers cleaning up against the run. Well-liked and reliable, he should be the anchor of what will be the strength of the 2013 Irish squad.

10 Loucheiz Purifoy, CB, Florida

An exceptional athlete, Purifoy also provides value as a returner. He has the ball skills of a wide receiver and could also see time there in 2013. Can get beat because he's still finding his way in terms of technique, but more seasoning could make him a star.

12 Adrian Hubbard, OLB, Alabama

Quietly, Hubbard was the most productive pass-rusher for the Tide in 2012. He led the team in both sacks and tackles for loss. He has the perfect frame to be a 3-4 OLB at the next level, with the ability to set the edge as a strong run defender and turn the corner as a pass-rusher.

15 Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State

He arrived in Tallahassee with the frame of a 4-3 defensive end, and the athleticism to play the position, but Jernigan has added the bulk to move inside, where his burst and ability to chase down runners has made him a disruptive interior force. His future is that of a penetrating 4-3 defensive tackle.

16 Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson

Even as a highly-rated prospect, 2013 represents an opportunity for Watkins to bounce back and show that he's taken the developmental steps necessary to be a true No. 1 wide receiver. His production fell off in 2012, and recent Houston pick DeAndre Hopkins was the more potent threat for Clemson. But Watkins has a ton of natural ability.

17 C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama

A gifted linebacker in terms of his ability to cover, Mosley has the all-around versatility that will make him an appealing linebacker in any scheme. He flies to the ball and makes a ton of plays; now he simply needs to get a bit stronger and show the leverage against the run, along with the ability to take on blockers and hold his ground.

18 Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M

At 6-foot-5, Evans sometimes looks like he plays even taller. He simply overwhelms cornerbacks with size, and is a great deep threat even when he doesn't get separation. Evans is also underrated as a receiver who can make defenders miss with the ball in his hands. Even with a redshirt year, he's still learning the position as a late arrival to football, so expect him to get even better in 2013.

19 Cameron Erving, LT, Florida State

Evaluators I've spoken to are extremely high on Erving's potential, and the tape shows why. He moves so easily, and really solidified the left tackle position for the Seminoles last year, even as he continues to figure things out. I wouldn't be surprised if he challenges to be the top tackle in the draft class.

21 Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson

Of the quarterbacks on the Big Board, Boyd has the best arm strength, and he can make the big throws both down the field and to the edges. He's got plenty of mobility and can escape the rush and throw well on the move. A hard worker who took another step forward with accuracy in 2012, Boyd needs to be smart in his decision-making -- he occasionally forces throws. He's not tall, but otherwise he has all the physical tools you want.

25 Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M

It's amazing to think that at this point a year ago, there was no certainty that Manziel would be the starting QB for the Aggies in 2012. A gifted improviser in the pocket, Manziel has an ability to extend plays that makes you think of Aaron Rodgers. He utilizes great movement skills and vision to overcome a lack of height, and while he doesn't have a big arm, there's no reason to think he won't continue to build arm strength. He's going to get even better.
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Surprised that Erving is as high as he is. He only has one year of experience as an offensive lineman. He was a defensive tackle that moved to offensive tackle, only because our DL depth was fantastic and our OL depth was pretty poor. He played well, but well enough to make this list? I'm not so sure.

The two QBs on this list are my two favorites, although I like Boyd more than Bridgewater right now.

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I've been watching tapes of the Q man from San Jose St. and the QB really caught my eyes.

David Fales.
I think he'll be drafted in the first two rounds.
Looks like a smart heady QB.
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I don't understand this criticism of Manziel's arm. He's no Joe Flacco but he can make all the throws, and on the run too.
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I don't know if Cornell is going to be on TV next year or not, but the QB Jeff Matthews looks like a legitimate NFL prospect.

I think he will get to play at the Senior Bowl, and get an invitation to the combine.

He won't be an unknown quality for long when people get to see him play.
Kid got all the tools to be an NFL starter.
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I don't know if Cornell is going to be on TV next year or not, but the QB Jeff Matthews looks like a legitimate NFL prospect.

I think he will get to play at the Senior Bowl, and get an invitation to the combine.

He won't be an unknown quality for long when people get to see him play.
Kid got all the tools to be an NFL starter.
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

Kurt Hess from Youngstown State has some good tools as well, since we are on small school QBs.
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Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

Kurt Hess from Youngstown State has some good tools as well, since we are on small school QBs.
There's something there.
Good prospect.

I'd like to see him take some deeper passes to gauge his arm strength; it doesn't appear that he attempts anything longer than 40 yards last year.

His O-line seems to do a good job protecting him, and they had a good running game that makes it difficult to properly evaluate the QB.

I'll keep an eye on him for sure.
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