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Old 05-02-2013   #21
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88 = Jacoby Jones
86 = London Fletcher
81 = Kaepernick
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Thanks I guess I was reading and flipping pages, I put jacoby on lol

Yeah. Ravens are going to be overrated in this one

However I figure being they have a reaction show and have interactive fan voting, I am thinking the list was made with magic 8 ball just for the reactions
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Players will react to it on twitter I'm sure asking who voted on this list it's garbage etc etc.
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Yea, so, Jacoby Jones just made this list at #88.

This program just lost all credibility.
That's a little harsh. I mean, he HAS been the Ravens playoff MVP for two years in a row.

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There was an 88, but after letting it bounce on the ground, they batted it to the other team.
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And Pollard... hm.... Think I'll stop watching this list now...
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Cameron Wake has got to be one of the most underrated players in the NFL. He is a borderline top 5 defensive player. To put Bernard and Jacoby ahead of him is criminal.
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Anquan Boldin was clearly the better WR all year long and even in the playoffs.
I won't argue that. I'm not trying to defend Jacoby as the 88th best player in the league. I definitely don't feel that way. I also do not believe Joe Flacco should be rated higher than Matt Schaub in this year's 100, but I guarantee you he will be.

Apparently all the players still had the Super Bowl on their mind.

& though Boldin was clearly the better player all year long, it's hard (for me) to get past Jacoby in the play-offs & Super Bowl. He made plays in the return game as well as in the passing game. & they were electric. He was electric. Of course, RayLewis laid hands on him & all.

Again, I don't agree with the results, but I can see how it turned out that way.
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And Pollard... hm.... Think I'll stop watching this list now...
I like to watch things like this, because it gives me insight to what the players think, instead of the assuming & projecting we do.

I don't think much of Steve Mariucci and I know most people don't think much of Denny Green. But I like to watch the coaches show & I listen to every Kubiak press conference, because I'd like to know what the coaches are thinking. Real coaches.

I draw the line at Casserly. I'd like to get the insights of GMs as well, but Casserly (imo) doesn't act like a GM anymore, he's more of a shock jock, just saying stuff.
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& though Boldin was clearly the better player all year long ...
AND in the playoffs. Jacoby Jones had a couple good plays in the playoffs that people are enamored with. Boldin bailed out Flacco several times on huge plays and people forget that.
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AND in the playoffs. Jacoby Jones had a couple good plays in the playoffs that people are enamored with. Boldin bailed out Flacco several times on huge plays and people forget that.
Jacoby's TD catch against the Broncos can be most attributed to one if the worst plays by a safety I have ever seen.
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AND in the playoffs. Jacoby Jones had a couple good plays in the playoffs that people are enamored with. Boldin bailed out Flacco several times on huge plays and people forget that.
But he didn't dance in the end zone.
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But he didn't dance in the end zone.
Well, I don't know about dancing, but he scored 4 times in the playoffs.
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Well, I don't know about dancing, but he scored 4 times in the playoffs.
Again, I'm not saying Jacoby was the better player, just trying to understand (myself) why more players would have voted him as such.

It's their opinion, not mine.

Think about it like this, in a few weeks they'll be talking about Andre as one of the top 15, maybe even top 10 & we'll be talking about how well they know their sht.
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After I have taken a step back and looked at the whole picture.I could see Jacoby at 88.

My knee jerk reaction was Jacoby Jones WR at 88..WTF.

I wouldn't have batted an eye if they. Would have listed it as "No.88 -Jacoby Jones WR/KR"

(I still haven't watched the clip BTW)
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After I have taken a step back and looked at the whole picture.I could see Jacoby at 88.
I don't see him as the 88th best player out of 1600ish players in the NFL. He had a great Super Bowl and that seems to be the only thing people are remembering. During the season, he caught 30 passes for 406 yards and a TD. He returned 37 punts and 38 kickoffs. He had 2 KR TDs and 1 PR TD. He had more punt return yardage 3 of the 5 years he was in Houston. He was one of the best kickoff return men in 2012, with the 4th best yardage total, best average, and 2 TDs. But his numbers weren't close to any of the great KR years we've seen from guys like Hester, Cribbs, Hall, or even Mathis' one All Pro year.

But even if you argue that he's the 88th best player, I'll let that slide, as long as you don't put Boldin at 93. That's ridiculous.
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I agree. I should have thought on it a little more , Bouldin should have been At the least Swopped numbers with Jacoby.

I am thinking the reason Jacoby might have gotten on the list higher was the guys in the league got to pick 20 guys. and when they got down to the 20th pick they might have though "me show some special teams love" and the names narrow down a bit there and Jacoby happened to stick in their memory.

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Default Re: Nfl Network:Top 100 players of 2013

Here is an explanation of how the voting works - Link

In short there is a very low participation by players. Even worse these are not folks the players thought were top 100 - they were identified as top 20 players in the league.
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Here is an explanation of how the voting works - Link

In short there is a very low participation by players. Even worse these are not folks the players thought were top 100 - they were identified as top 20 players in the league.
That's even more confusing? Someone thinks Dennis Pitta is among the top 20 players in the league? I think the Ravens filled out a disproportionate number of ballots.
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Just to confirm what a farce this list is, and somewhat explain some bizarre results...
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...on Friday, Eagles linebacker Connor Barwin said via Twitter, “[E]veryone knows no players actually vote for who’s on that list right?
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So we asked NFL Network to explain the process, and to confirm that players indeed cast ballots for the list.

Ideally, all players would do it. This year, the league says only 481 of them actually did. That’s 28.3 percent of all active players.
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To vote, each player lists only his top 20 players in the league. The player listed at No. 1 gets 20 points, the player listed at No. 2 gets 19 points, and the process continues until the player listed at No. 20 gets one point.

So it’s really not a “top 100″ list. It’s the 100 players who received the highest vote totals from players who attempted to list their personal top 20, presumably without the benefit of all 32 rosters or starting lineups or Pro Bowl qualifiers or anything else that would ensure they aren’t accidentally overlooking someone as they pull 20 names out of thin air.
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I think what happened is that everyone knows who the top 20-30 guys are, and the rest of the list is filled with people who voted for themselves, or got a friend to vote for them.
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48. Duane Brown

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