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Old 05-02-2013   #21
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Before being forced to change their name, I would like to know how much Native Americans even care.

This came up with Florida State a few years back where one noisy group complained and got some press, and the rest of the Seminole Nation (real ones, not fans of the team) said hell no, we like them and the pre game rituals.
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Dread, shocking that a unionized black man would favor the side of political correctness.

"Politically correct?" It's a racial slur. I'm not siding with the city councilman on this one as I think he's trying to use this as a political spring board to run for mayor or congress, and I don't like the name he's suggesting. I am however saying that I've been siding with the Indians on this one since the 80s. If someone called a team the "Tennessee Tarbabies" I wouldn't be too keen on them either. For the record. I'm NOT IN THE UNION.
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Before being forced to change their name, I would like to know how much Native Americans even care.

This came up with Florida State a few years back where one noisy group complained and got some press, and the rest of the Seminole Nation (real ones, not fans of the team) said hell no, we like them and the pre game rituals.
That's because they use the actual name and not some slur.
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I thought Red tails was referring to hawks, not the airmen?
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That's because they use the actual name and not some slur.
You are assuming slur. The origins of the word are not even known.

It's use here was clearly not meant as a slur in honor of their Indian head coach.

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Before being forced to change their name, I would like to know how much Native Americans even care.

This came up with Florida State a few years back where one noisy group complained and got some press, and the rest of the Seminole Nation (real ones, not fans of the team) said hell no, we like them and the pre game rituals.
The last poll found Washington Redskins was acceptable to 90% of Indians.
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THat is a fantastic name for them. The Washington Shinnecocks! There's no way anyone will make fun of that name!
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The last poll found Washington Redskins was acceptable to 90% of Indians.
Good (recent) article about it:

Native Americans Speaking Out In Support Of Redskins
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You are assuming slur. The origins of the word are not even known.

It's use here was clearly not meant as a slur in honor of their Indian head coach.
Fair enough. But I'd like to think were I a football coach and a team decided to call themselves the Detroit Darkies to honor me that I might have an objection...or SUMTHIN'. Even if it's in jest...ehhhh.


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The last poll found Washington Redskins was acceptable to 90% of Indians.
Truthfully...if the Indians don't have a problem with it then I withdraw my objection.

..THIS is why he's a lawyer.
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I don't see how referring to the skin on their butts is an improvement.

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Just a side note, but I don't like the name "Indians"...

I have no idea if they are offended by that or not, but I just don't feel right not calling them Native Americans.
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That's because they use the actual name and not some slur.
My family comes from indian descent (Mom's side.. really shows in my sister who has a year around tan).. the name does not bother us AT ALL and we don't veiw it as a racial slur, mainly because we aren't so damn sensitive where we read into it more than it is and get offended.

The only people really bitching about it or those who are non native american and those who always want to turn everything into a race issue and gain political points or notoriety. Let it be.. it's a historic team and grandfathered in.
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My family comes from indian descent (Mom's side.. really shows in my sister who has a year around tan).. the name does not bother us AT ALL and we don't veiw it as a racial slur, mainly because we aren't so damn sensitive where we read into it more than it is and get offended.

The only people really bitching about it or those who are non native american and those who always want to turn everything into a race issue and gain political points or notoriety. Let it be.. it's a historic team and grandfathered in.
Let the record show (and you can go back to my previous posts which followed the one you responded to confirm this) I was saying:

1. The whole thing looks like a DC politician trying to get his name in the papers.

2. "If Indians aren't offended then I withdraw my objection."
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My family comes from indian descent (Mom's side.. really shows in my sister who has a year around tan).. the name does not bother us AT ALL and we don't veiw it as a racial slur, mainly because we aren't so damn sensitive where we read into it more than it is and get offended.

The only people really bitching about it or those who are non native american and those who always want to turn everything into a race issue and gain political points or notoriety. Let it be.. it's a historic team and grandfathered in.
Yep

For the record my family comes from Indian/Irish descent. I have the same features like your sister.

Sometimes I have a minor binge drinking problem too. LOL
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Just a side note, but I don't like the name "Indians"...

I have no idea if they are offended by that or not, but I just don't feel right not calling them Native Americans.
Most of, if not all, the tribes still use the name "Indian", so I figure that's a good measure to gage their attitude toward it. My post up-thread has a bunch of links to various tribes' websites that use "Indian", so if they are not upset about it, I'm certainly not going to crusade against it.

I figure most of us are "native Americans" by birth, all things considered.
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lolz at the "My sister tans easy and I don't care." We all have African blood in us. Guess that means we're all African American too?
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lolz at the "My sister tans easy and I don't care." We all have African blood in us. Guess that means we're all African American too?
We all have human blood in us.

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If they continue to push this issue, if I were in control of the Redskins, I would tell them... "If DC doesn't want the Redskins, the Redskins will find someone who does." Yes, LA would be mentioned somewhere in my reply.
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lolz at the "My sister tans easy and I don't care." We all have African blood in us. Guess that means we're all African American too?
Does this mean my son will get the same opportunities that other minority students get to enter the school of his choice? Does he qualify for minority grants/loans?

Can I now be considered a minority business owner and receive those perks?
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Just name them the Griffins already.
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