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Old 04-26-2013   #161
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Was listening to a guy on local shreveport radio today and he said that Hopkins is the best offensive player the Texans have drafted since Arian Foster. I laughed a little and moved on.

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Was listening to a guy on local shreveport radio today and he said that Hopkins is the best offensive player the Texans have drafted since Arian Foster. I laughed a little and moved on.

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So he's the best offensive player the Texans have drafted since never. High praise, indeed.
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Hopkins was actually far more productive Watkins in 2012.
Watkins got injured early in the 2012 season.

He had a stellar true freshman season in 2011. He looks poised for a dominant 2013 season and a #1 ranking fr his position, I would say.
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Interesting:
  • Set state high school record for career interceptions, rated #14 cornerback in the nation by Scout.com
  • Went to Clemson as a CB and moved to WR due to team need
  • Played basketball for Clemson after the 2010-11 football season ended; was a member of Clemson’s NCAA Tournament team, but did not travel to the tourney
  • Became the second player in ACC history to total at least 50 receptions as both a freshman and sophomore
  • ACC-record 18 touchdowns in 2012, second in the nation
  • Had game-highs 13 receptions for 191 yards, and two touchdowns against #7 Louisiana State in the Chick-fil-A Bowl on Dec. 31
  • Turns 21 on June 6
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  • Set state high school record for career interceptions, rated #14 cornerback in the nation by Scout.com
  • Went to Clemson as a CB and moved to WR due to team need
  • Played basketball for Clemson after the 2010-11 football season ended; was a member of Clemson’s NCAA Tournament team, but did not travel to the tourney
  • Became the second player in ACC history to total at least 50 receptions as both a freshman and sophomore
  • ACC-record 18 touchdowns in 2012, second in the nation
  • Had game-highs 13 receptions for 191 yards, and two touchdowns against #7 Louisiana State in the Chick-fil-A Bowl on Dec. 31
  • Turns 21 on June 6
Looks like someone's going to show up to practice hungover on June 7...
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Watkins got injured early in the 2012 season.

He had a stellar true freshman season in 2011. He looks poised for a dominant 2013 season and a #1 ranking fr his position, I would say.
Actually, missed two game due to suspension at the being of the year and only one due to injury. he blantly regressed on the field and was no way a better football player than Hopkins in 2012.


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Not sure. There was some guy named Young who wore 10. All the Texans saw of him was the back of his jersey.
You don't see much of it anymore.

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I know this will probably change now that Hopkins in the NFL and i don't want this to change anyones perception of him but i thought i'de pass this along. I go to a college in South Carolina and its pretty well known that both him and Sammy Watkins both smoke a lot. Not only that but a couple of my buddies say that their friends at Clemson happen to get weed from Hopkins. Like i said, hopefully he puts this behind him now that he's in NFL because he has all the physical attributes to be a great receiver.
Are we to believe 4th hand rumors over the extensive background checks an NFL team does on potential 1st round picks? I'm sure you trust your "information", but consider why others would not.
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The Tigers used Watkins in multiple fashion (similar to how Patterson and Austin were used).

Hopkins, Hunter, and Bailey were strictly receivers on their respective team.

All six did well in their particular role.

Watkins, Patterson, and Austin were used in multiple fashion because they all are dynamic players who can make things happen with the ball in their hand.

Hopkins and Bailey are best route runners while Hunter is more explosive just like the tests at the combine showed.

Bailey is the smartest but Hopkins has the size and speed advantage over him.
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Watt, Mitchell, Smith, Jamison, & Crick should be enough bodies. If there's an upgrade over any of them, I'm fine with that, but we don't need to carry six DLmen for our 3-4.
I think the minimum we carry is six.

If the guy from bowling green doesn't make the roster I'll be shocked. Not only do I think he has a great chance to make it, but I also think he can push for playing time this coming season.

But for d linemen you'd ideally want a back up for each spot since it's a position where guys can tire out fast. You want a lot of fresh bodies there. Plus guys tend to get injured down there.

O line guys cab go the whole game generally so you don't need a back up for every spot. Maybe 8 o line guys.
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So, what are our expectations of Mr Hopkins?

400 yards? 50 catches? 10 TDs?
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So, what are our expectations of Mr Hopkins?

400 yards? 50 catches? 10 TDs?
In his first year, I'm hoping for 35-40 catches, 500-600 yards, and 5 TDs.

I'm not going to be surprised if he gets more, though.

I see him as Kevin Walter on Steroids. He's extremely sure handed. It's all going to come down to trust.

If he learns the offense and Schaub starts to trust that he's going to be where he's supposed to be AND that he's going to catch the ball, he could have an EPIC year because teams are still going to be rolling coverage toward Andre and daring the rookie to beat them.
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Questions are can/will Schaub look to his right more for DeAndre? Will Gary call his number? Are the Texans regrouping their run game adding to the FB position and an in line blocking TE?

I don't know about numbers, but the kid will fight at the point of attack and seems to put a lot of work in on his hands.
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Questions are can/will Schaub look to his right more for DeAndre? Will Gary call his number? Are the Texans regrouping their run game adding to the FB position and an in line blocking TE?

I don't know about numbers, but the kid will fight at the point of attack and seems to put a lot of work in on his hands.
This is what bothered me most towards the end of the season. I don't have a clue why, but Schaub seemed to be forcing the ball to AJ way too often. It's like he didn't trust anyone but AJ. Hopkins is supposedly know for his ability to fight for the ball when it's thrown his way. I sure hope Schaub can spread the ball around like he used to do
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Depends on the make-up of the team; whether they sign a vet and how Posey's rehab goes.
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This is what bothered me most towards the end of the season. I don't have a clue why, but Schaub seemed to be forcing the ball to AJ way too often. It's like he didn't trust anyone but AJ. Hopkins is supposedly know for his ability to fight for the ball when it's thrown his way. I sure hope Schaub can spread the ball around like he used to do
And I think that's what it's all about. I said this somewhere else, but it's about trust.

By the end of the season, I don't think Schaub trusted Martin because of how many times he'd put the ball in the boy's hands and had him drop it. I don't think he trusted KW because he wasn't getting separation and wasn't catching everything thrown to him like he had been a few years ago.

I'm hoping Hopkins learns his role and his routes and I hope he doesn't drop any balls because Schaub needs for him to get to his spot and catch the ball so that trust can start to build up.
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And I think that's what it's all about. I said this somewhere else, but it's about trust.

By the end of the season, I don't think Schaub trusted Martin because of how many times he'd put the ball in the boy's hands and had him drop it. I don't think he trusted KW because he wasn't getting separation and wasn't catching everything thrown to him like he had been a few years ago.

I'm hoping Hopkins learns his role and his routes and I hope he doesn't drop any balls because Schaub needs for him to get to his spot and catch the ball so that trust can start to build up.
Agreed! The dude's supposed to have great hands from what I've read. Hopefully he's able to get a grasp of the playbook quickly in order to produce right away. And, like you said, earn Schaub's trust.
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This is what bothered me most towards the end of the season. I don't have a clue why, but Schaub seemed to be forcing the ball to AJ way too often. It's like he didn't trust anyone but AJ. Hopkins is supposedly know for his ability to fight for the ball when it's thrown his way. I sure hope Schaub can spread the ball around like he used to do
I think there may be a perception problem here:

Percentage of attempts AJ targeted:

2008 30.7%
2009 28.7%
2010 29.6%
2012 30.1%

I left off 2007 and 2011 because AJ missed substantial time.

That is a flat line the entire time AJ and Schaub have worked together.

I agree with TPN that trust is key to Hopkins' season but I wouldn't look for a lot of targets being pulled from AJ.

Not as a prediction but I looked at AJ's rookie numbers and it is incredible he got 976 yards with Carr at QB and a passing attack with a whopping 2600 yds.
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I think there may be a perception problem here:

Percentage of attempts AJ targeted:

2008 30.7%
2009 28.7%
2010 29.6%
2012 30.1%

I left off 2007 and 2011 because AJ missed substantial time.

That is a flat line the entire time AJ and Schaub have worked together.
I see it the same way, kinda.

When I took into account the players available at different skill positions (WR, TE, FB, RB) and their experience in the system, I saw a very normal distribution (target-wise).
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I think there may be a perception problem here:

Percentage of attempts AJ targeted:

2008 30.7%
2009 28.7%
2010 29.6%
2012 30.1%

I left off 2007 and 2011 because AJ missed substantial time.

That is a flat line the entire time AJ and Schaub have worked together.

I agree with TPN that trust is key to Hopkins' season but I wouldn't look for a lot of targets being pulled from AJ.

Not as a prediction but I looked at AJ's rookie numbers and it is incredible he got 976 yards with Carr at QB and a passing attack with a whopping 2600 yds.
Hmm, weird. I guess it just seemed like he forced it a lot more towards the end of the season. You'd think with all the coverage that gets rolled to wherever AJ lines up there'd be an open man somewhere. Hence the reason we drafted a WR in the 1st.

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