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Old 04-24-2013   #81
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AJ's performance with Schaub shows that is not an issue which needs to be brought up every time WR's are discussed.
I don't think the talent of AJ is available in this draft, and feel that his talent contributes more to his numbers than the talent of our QB. In fact some have said that if he were playing with a different QB his numbers would be unmatched to this point in his career. Of course not having another serious threat across the field hasn't helped either one of them. Matt targets AJ way too much in situations that AJ isn't open because the D knows he is going to AJ. Catch 22 I guess.
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Not really. When considering using a high pick on a WR, you have to be sure what you have at QB. No use purchasing that nice shiny new goose-neck trailer, if the only vehicle you have is a Vespa.
Exactly.

Stats Geeks love him, though. Pleasantly predictable, reliable production...until the wheels fall off at all the wrong times.
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I am not going to argue about Schaub any more in this thread. Please note the title of the thread - it isn't Dre asking for a new QB.
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I guess you answer when asked, but Dre doesnt need to focus on something he cant control. I dont believe that Rick Smith calculates Dre's desires into the Texans draft decisions. If he really wants a #2 WR so badly he can take a pay cut and take one for the team. Litteraly.
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Lots I can't see pass my hatred of schuab thinking in this thread. of course, you get better weapons for the QB POSITION. Nothing makes average to okay player look better than people who can do lots of his job for him...i.e. get wide the hell open, catch the ball ,a nd run after the catch.

More importantly, let's assume that Schuab lives down to your expection and gets cut in the next year or two. The texans competing with some other team for whatever free agent Qb who happens to hit the market. the money is close enough. that guys start to look at what he has around him to work with. A truly aging Andre and Owen, foster with a couple more years of carries on his legs, and still hoping on leStar jean for the fourth year in a row. dude goes somewhere else because they got something work with and you will turn to how "Rick Smith sucks" all the time posting.

You upgrade WR for your football team, not for Matt Schuab.
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I guess you answer when asked, but Dre doesnt need to focus on something he cant control. I dont believe that Rick Smith calculates Dre's desires into the Texans draft decisions. If he really wants a #2 WR so badly he can take a pay cut and take one for the team. Litteraly.
Look up. Higher..

higher. That little speck you see way up there, that's 'caks point.
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I expect we draft a Monster TE before we draft a WR jus saying
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I expect we draft a Monster TE before we draft a WR jus saying
Wouldn't bother me if they drafted Eifert in the 1st.
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I guess you answer when asked, but Dre doesnt need to focus on something he cant control. I dont believe that Rick Smith calculates Dre's desires into the Texans draft decisions. If he really wants a #2 WR so badly he can take a pay cut and take one for the team. Litteraly.
Draft picks are relatively cheap now, I'm not sure why Dre would have to take a pay cut in order to draft a WR
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Draft picks are relatively cheap now, I'm not sure why Dre would have to take a pay cut in order to draft a WR
Sorry, wasnt clear on this. I meant if he wants a legit #2 in vet free agent form then take the pay cut. I am just not a big believer in rookie WR's, unless they are studs that usually go in the top 10. Generally speaking they are raw and either dont know how to run good routes, or have poor hands in NFL standards, or havent ever been asked to block.
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Sorry, wasnt clear on this. I meant if he wants a legit #2 in vet free agent form then take the pay cut. I am just not a big believer in rookie WR's, unless they are studs that usually go in the top 10. Generally speaking they are raw and either dont know how to run good routes, or have poor hands in NFL standards, or havent ever been asked to block.
Give me a few examples of top players who took an actual pay cut, not a restructure to still get as much or more money but push the cap hit into future years.
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Give me a few examples of top players who took an actual pay cut, not a restructure to still get as much or more money but push the cap hit into future years.
Cak, I am not actually expecting him to take a pay cut. But I feel like we are getting lost on my position which is that if Dre seriously wants a #2 WR then they need to go get a vet, because I dont believe any of these rookies especially those available around 27 will be actual #2 caliber receivers.

The only way to afford a vet, #2 caliber receiver is if cap space is freed up somewhere.
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Cak, I am not actually expecting him to take a pay cut. But I feel like we are getting lost on my position which is that if Dre seriously wants a #2 WR then they need to go get a vet, because I dont believe any of these rookies especially those available around 27 will be actual #2 caliber receivers.

The only way to afford a vet, #2 caliber receiver is if cap space is freed up somewhere.
I am not completely in disagreement with your point about a vet although I haven't reviewed who is available which makes a difference. But there have been a bunch of people implying AJ is somehow being selfish. Fact is I am sure AJ would be more than willing to restructure if asked - basically every player would because it puts more money in their pocket now.
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AJ isn't selfish, and I doubt he really even "asked" for another receiver to be drafted in the first round. He responded to a question from a reporter and it was blown out of proportion as usual. Especially when McClain is involved. AJ just wants to win I am sure.
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actually lookin at the numbers last year andre is actually made less then a lot of guys in the NFL

Sidney rice
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Calvin Johnson and V jackon are making MONSTER NUMBERS
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