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View Poll Results: Who will the Texans take in the first round?
Jesse Williams, NT Bama 2 4.00%
DeAndre Hopkins, WR Clemson 18 36.00%
Keenan Allen, WR Cal 4 8.00%
Cordarrelle Patterson, WR Tenn 3 6.00%
Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame 4 8.00%
Johnathan Cooper, OG UNC 0 0%
Menelik Watson, OT Florida State 3 6.00%
Manti Te'o, LB Notre Dame 2 4.00%
Kevin Minter, ILB LSU 2 4.00%
Other! List who and why? 12 24.00%
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Old 04-24-2013   #41
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How mad would you be if the Texans traded this year's 1st for a 1st in 2014 and another lower round pick this year?
I would be furious as we have too many needs this year with good players in later rounds. Now after this draft and depending how roster does in 2013, I would then be open to future trades.
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I seldom focused on Hunt as he did nothing to catch my eye other than his blocked kicks. Short astounded me with his play and motor especially at bowl. Hunt could become great but based on what I have seen, he is not on Kawaan Short's level, today. We all have opinions and that is all they are.
Its not me you need to convince of the bolded. Thats exactly what I have been saying for months.
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How mad would you be if the Texans traded this year's 1st for a 1st in 2014 and another lower round pick this year?
Well, of course it would depend on the deal and our trading partner. If we traded with the Cards or Bills and got their first next year and a 2nd and 5th this year I'd be good with that.

Two 1st's next year and two additional picks this year is some pretty decent horse trading IMHO. Especially since - using the teams I named - we wouldn't really drop down very far.

And even the draftniks around here have kinda been all over the map for that first pick. From what I've seen on this board, there's no concensus on who we just HAVE to have with that #27 pick. Yeah, "conventional wisdom" kinda agrees we need a WR at #27, but is there that much of a drop off if we take that WR at 38 (Cards) or at 41 (Bills)?
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I'm going with Kevin Minter. I think we go LB in the 1st, WR 2nd, OT/OG, NT in the 3rd, S in 4th, and whatever after that.
In this pass happy league , I cant see a #1 pick being spent on an ILB who will only play ~40% of the snaps , especially when there are several ILB's who will be there in the 3rd / 4th rounds who are very close talent wise to Minter.

For me that #1 pick comes down to a few positions - DE , OLB , WR and DT. Notice that three of those positions are "get after the QB types".


Here's a quote from another thread from srrono , he makes a solid case for a "get after the QB player"

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The more I look at Texans DLine it screams help.

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DE/NT
A.Smith final year in contract.

T.Jamison returning from right Achilles tear on Oct.14 2012.

David Hunter returning from injuring his toe during practice that required surgery.

Ra'shon Harris is in final yr of contract and returning from tearing his right triceps.

Earl Mitchell final year contract.

S.Cody is a FA and with back injury.(gone)

Terrell McClain final year contract.

Only depth that is healthly and not in final year of contract is J.Crick.

Lots of questions on players returning from major injuires.

After 2013 only Watt & Crick & Hunter under contract.


If I missed something let me know.


First 3 pick in any order IMO are WR-NT/DE-LB

The player they chose will be able to play both NT and DE.
Short could play either spot in a 3-4 scheme IMO.

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Well, of course it would depend on the deal and our trading partner. If we traded with the Cards or Bills and got their first next year and a 2nd and 5th this year I'd be good with that.

Two 1st's next year and two additional picks this year is some pretty decent horse trading IMHO. Especially since - using the teams I named - we wouldn't really drop down very far.

And even the draftniks around here have kinda been all over the map for that first pick. From what I've seen on this board, there's no concensus on who we just HAVE to have with that #27 pick. Yeah, "conventional wisdom" kinda agrees we need a WR at #27, but is there that much of a drop off if we take that WR at 38 (Cards) or at 41 (Bills)?
I think WR is the deepest position in the draft , at least thru the first three rounds. There is little seperation between Austin who is likely the first or second WR off the board to Dobson who should go sometime in the mid to late 3rd round.


I think the safest pick is Hopkins .... but they could take a DT , OT or DE there and gamble on a WR in the second.

I wouldnt want to see them trade for a future first but rather a high 2 and another pick (3-4). That would leave them with 2x 2nds 3x 3rds (one comp) and 2x 4ths.
Ideally I'd like to see a trade out of round one for a second++ and a trade back into the second giving them three selections there taking a combination of DT (DE/OLB) , WR , OT with those three picks (in no specific order).
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Minter is not even that good.

I'd dislike that pick almost as much as the Merciless pick last year.
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Curious as to how you determined TE a big need? We have a very good starter and back up with end of roster filled with potential. I would not be shocked if we draft a TE but not before day 3.
Disagree. I think TE is a day 2 pick, and if Zac or Tyler is there, I would gladly add them to the team on day one. OD is not the player he was and injury prone. Plus he has a huge contract so we need to ferret out a replacement as he may be gone next year.

Our former "good" TE's beyond OD are playing for Denver, and another in Philly next year.

When our current backup went down last year, the offense stagnated.

Filled with potential? Based on what? Brock and Supernaw are projects who can't be counted on. I'm not sure what potential you are looking at but they didn't make anyone's roster last year.
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In this pass happy league , I cant see a #1 pick being spent on an ILB who will only play ~40% of the snaps , especially when there are several ILB's who will be there in the 3rd / 4th rounds who are very close talent wise to Minter.

For me that #1 pick comes down to a few positions - DE , OLB , WR and DT. Notice that three of those positions are "get after the QB types".
I agree with you, I just think we got ILB in the first if Minter is there and we can't move back. It's not what I want to do, but I think that's what Smithiak will do.
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