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Old 04-23-2013   #81
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How the Hell do you have a top 5 Texans draft list and include Ryans and Daniels but no AJ? WTF? Who ever wrote this article should be drug out in the streat and beaten.
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Here's the list on NFL.com. They have commentary for each pick. The bare bones list is:

Brown
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Ryans
Cushing
Watt

I would assume that Watt is #1 and Brown is #5, but it's hard to assume anything when they left off AJ. They do mention AJ in the Daniels summary:

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If the David Carr experiment was ever going to work for the Texans, they needed to (a) protect him better and (b) give him offensive weapons. Grabbing receiver Andre Johnson in the franchise's second-ever draft was a great start, and had he not been the third-overall pick he would have made this list.
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Here's the list on NFL.com. They have commentary for each pick. The bare bones list is:

Brown
Daniels
Ryans
Cushing
Watt

I would assume that Watt is #1 and Brown is #5, but it's hard to assume anything when they left off AJ. They do mention AJ in the Daniels summary:
That commentary doesn't even make sense. What does being the 3rd overall pick have anything to do it with it? By that logic Carr should be disqualified.
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Looks like they are going off of value in regards to where they were picked.

AJ was probably a no brainer. I think most people could have made that pick....I think the list is aiming at truly working to find players...

The guys that made the list didn't have to be chosen where they were and they weren't virtual locks to be chosen where we took them.
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Looks like they are going off of value in regards to where they were picked.

AJ was probably a no brainer. I think most people could have made that pick....I think the list is aiming at truly working to find players...

The guys that made the list didn't have to be chosen where they were and they weren't virtual locks to be chosen where we took them.
Not the lions...
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That commentary doesn't even make sense. What does being the 3rd overall pick have anything to do it with it? By that logic Carr should be disqualified.
No it's the opposite. Carr should be listed as a bad pick because the higher the pick, the more likely the player is to be a great player. That's why all of their bad picks are first rounders, the failure is magnified in higher rounds. AJ being third pick and becoming who he is now isn't as significant as Duane Brown at #27 becoming a great LT (though I think AJ should be listed over Ryans). Teams are supposed to hit on top 10 picks, so it lessens the greatness of the pick. The Colts aren't exactly geniuses for picking Peyton and Luck #1 overall, but the Raiders are morons for taking Jamarcus Russell #1.
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ESPN had Carr 3rd worst #1 QB ever taken, with Vick #4.

George 5th
Couch 2nd
Russell 1st
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ESPN had Carr 3rd worst #1 QB ever taken, with Vick #4.

George 5th
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That's letting one draft spot exclude Ryan Leaf, who was worse than even Russell, I think. Or maybe they're tied for worst ever.
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Looks like they are going off of value in regards to where they were picked.

AJ was probably a no brainer. I think most people could have made that pick....I think the list is aiming at truly working to find players...

The guys that made the list didn't have to be chosen where they were and they weren't virtual locks to be chosen where we took them.
No, they're just stupid. Indy's list has Peyton AND Luck in the top 5 best picks.
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No, they're just stupid. Indy's list has Peyton AND Luck in the top 5 best picks.
Well in that case, at a minimum, they're being inconsistent. The Luck pick was considered as much of a "no-brainer" as A.J. was when he was picked. Now you could make a very weak argument that there was somewhat of a choice between Peyton and Leaf back then.

But I'm with you, they're just stupid.
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I can't make Carr my number one worst because in a different situation he may have been okay.

Not Joppru's fault he was hurt all the time. Wasted talent and never know what we might have had.

Okoye is my number one worst pick. Sorry, but you don't burn your first round pick on a prospect. Who we passed on is always a kick in the balls as well. Travis Johnson runs a close second for me.

Number one best has always be Andre. Watt is making a serious run at the spot though.
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