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Old 03-25-2013   #141
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Whats wrong with Donnie Jones? I thought he did a great job last year.

Hitman Hartman? What happened to that dude? He had a damn cannon, loved his kickoffs.
Jones had his brain fart moments last year. Just when our Offense was in the middle of their funk and field position was at a premium he would shank one off the side of his foot. Overall stats were very good just needed to improve his situational punting.
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Jones had his brain fart moments last year. Just when our Offense was in the middle of their funk and field position was at a premium he would shank one off the side of his foot. Overall stats were very good just needed to improve his situational punting.
Exactly.

Stats don't show you everything.

For example, Lechler had a punt blocked (right off the bat) so he had a punt for 2 yards. That dragged down his number.

Or he had the ball inside the 5, the coverage team was there, but somehow missed the ball that rolled into the endzone for a touch back.

And like I said, Jones saw minimum pressure and therefore had more time to do the job.

The snap is also important. If it's too high, or if it rolls on the ground.

Can you believe that?
I actually saw a couple of snaps by the Raiders that rolled on the ground.
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Exactly.

Stats don't show you everything.

For example, Lechler had a punt blocked (right off the bat) so he had a punt for 2 yards. That dragged down his number.

Or he had the ball inside the 5, the coverage team was there, but somehow missed the ball that rolled into the endzone for a touch back.

And like I said, Jones saw minimum pressure and therefore had more time to do the job.

The snap is also important. If it's too high, or if it rolls on the ground.

Can you believe that?
I actually saw a couple of snaps by the Raiders that rolled on the ground.
Wasn't it the Raiders who had two snaps that rolled on the ground in the same game when their snapper got injured?
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Wasn't it the Raiders who had two snaps that rolled on the ground in the same game when their snapper got injured?
Yup!

I expected Shane to be a little careful on one of them though; you know, covering it up instead of trying to pick it up.
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Some very interesting facts and stats related to the Lechler move. 2013 STs performance will also hinge on Bullocks groin and Marciano's brain coming back to life.

How Much Will Shane Lechler Really Impact The Texans' Special Teams?
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Some very interesting facts and stats related to the Lechler move. 2013 STs performance will also hinge on Bullocks groin and Marciano's brain coming back to life.

How Much Will Shane Lechler Really Impact The Texans' Special Teams?
Hmmm, no mention of Oaklands terrible long snapper. I think the author didn't bother watching any of the Raiders games this year. It was more than just poor return coverage that contributed to the lower punting stats.
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Hmmm, no mention of Oaklands terrible long snapper. I think the author didn't bother watching any of the Raiders games this year. It was more than just poor return coverage that contributed to the lower punting stats.
It's like someone else said...

Last year, Donnie Jones had a GOOD year for Donnie Jones. Last year, Shane Lechler had a bad year for Shane Lechler.

Their stats last year were almost identical. BUT. The odds are that this next season, Donnie Jones doesn't kick that well and there's a good chance that Shane Lechler kicks better.
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It's like someone else said...

Last year, Donnie Jones had a GOOD year for Donnie Jones. Last year, Shane Lechler had a bad year for Shane Lechler.

Their stats last year were almost identical. BUT. The odds are that this next season, Donnie Jones doesn't kick that well and there's a good chance that Shane Lechler kicks better.
That's a good way to look at it, Lechlers floor is Jones' ceiling.
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Some very interesting facts and stats related to the Lechler move. 2013 STs performance will also hinge on Bullocks groin and Marciano's brain coming back to life.

How Much Will Shane Lechler Really Impact The Texans' Special Teams?

I came away that the writer doesnt think much of our place kicker either. I wonder if there is any way to upgrade that position as well. Really bothersome that Graham cant kick a ball off the tee into the end zone more routinely.
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I came away that the writer doesnt think much of our place kicker either. I wonder if there is any way to upgrade that position as well. Really bothersome that Graham cant kick a ball off the tee into the end zone more routinely.
Randy Bullock will be the place kicker in 2013. Graham isn't even on the current roster.
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I came away that the writer doesnt think much of our place kicker either. I wonder if there is any way to upgrade that position as well. Really bothersome that Graham cant kick a ball off the tee into the end zone more routinely.
I'll have to see more of Bullock before I'm convinced he is significantly better than his predecessor. In college, he had a ~33% touchback rate on kickoffs in 2011 (~11 to 16% in previous years).

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He seems to be a dead accurate FG kicker inside the 50. But did not have a FG longer than 52 yds in college (1 yd better than Graham's best last year and 1 yd less than Graham's longest field goals in past years), a mark he matched in a Texans preseason game prior to his injury. Of course, then there is always the question how he will kick under NFL pressure situations. We will soon find out.
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I'll have to see more of Bullock before I'm convinced he is significantly better than his predecessor. In college, he had a ~33% touchback rate on kickoffs in 2011 (~11 to 16% in previous years).

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He seems to be a dead accurate FG kicker inside the 50. But did not have a FG longer than 52 yds in college (1 yd better than Graham's best last year and 1 yd less than Graham's longest field goals in past years), a mark he matched in a Texans preseason game prior to his injury. Of course, then there is always the question how he will kick under NFL pressure situations. We will soon find out.
Two things to consider about Bullock. One he was kicking in open air stadiums in college, whereas Reliant should be much easier indoors.

Two the NCAA knockoffs are 5 yards longer than the NFL, so he should have more success on touchbacks than in college.
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Lechler named team captain: http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...36#post2203736

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looking back over the game...I thought there may have been one unsung hero that I've not really heard mentioned much tonight. I'm sure this will happen many weeks as well as this guy just makes great field position seem almost routine...

But I'm pretty sure all of his punts were within the 20. They were usually all high floaters too so allowing our guys to get down there and make the tackle.

The Texans have been through so many bad punters, it's great to have him on our team.

Obviously this guy is going to be huge for us this year, and since he's a Texas guy and a punter, hopefully he'll stick around for a while.
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Keep it up, Mr Lechler.
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looking back over the game...I thought there may have been one unsung hero that I've not really heard mentioned much tonight. I'm sure this will happen many weeks as well as this guy just makes great field position seem almost routine...

But I'm pretty sure all of his punts were within the 20. They were usually all high floaters too so allowing our guys to get down there and make the tackle.

The Texans have been through so many bad punters, it's great to have him on our team.

Obviously this guy is going to be huge for us this year, and since he's a Texas guy and a punter, hopefully he'll stick around for a while.


Yup! Also, Bullock kicking the ball into or out the end zone!
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The man earned his keep today. Fantastic weapon.
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I believe he had 5 kicks inside the 20 today. And 3 or 4 they (Titans) ended up punting from their own end zone. It's nice to have a punter.
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I believe he had 5 kicks inside the 20 today. And 3 or 4 they (Titans) ended up punting from their own end zone. It's nice to have a punter.
He is probably the only good thing about our special teams this year. He really helped with the field position. One of his touchbacks died like 1 foot inside the EZ. Otherwise he nailed everything and none of his kicks were returned for much.
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Greatest punter of all time in his (punting) prime. Hope he sticks with us for 8 more years.
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