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Old 03-29-2013   #41
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On top of that, if we keep a late round rookie and cut guys like Sharpton (injury) and McGee (4th QB), it would put $200K back into our coffer (each).

Guys like McClain and Clutts (odd mans out) would put about $u100K back each.

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Let's remember that the Texans current cap space is figured with the top 51 active contracts.
The Texans only need to carry 2 more players to make the full roster.

The late round picks (5th rd and later) have cap space that is about the same or lower than some of the players at the bottom of the totem pole we now have.

Let's say we sign the top 5 rookies (including the comp in the third), that would require roughly $4.2M in cap space for 2013.

However, that would bring the roster up to 56 players.

Let's say we cut the bottom 3 players (in term of money), that's a reduction of about $1.3M in cap space (or increase in cap space available.)

$4.9-$4.2+$1.3= $2M

The Texans should still have about $2M available in cap space to roll over to 2014.

Previously, I had put this estimation at $1M to be on the safe side.
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On top of that, if we keep a late round rookie and cut guys like Sharpton (injury) and McGee (4th QB), it would put $200K back into our coffer (each).

Guys like McClain and Clutts (odd mans out) would put about $100K back each.
To take it further, with Greg Jones' $1M added (while subtracting a bottom guy) still leave the Texans with somewhere between 500K to $1.5M in available cap space.

Bottom line, the Texans can still sign one or two guys at about the same level as Jones.

Obviously, if the Texans cut a guy like Wade Smith, they have plenty of cap space to perhaps find a healthier replacement (if they deem that he will never get back to form.)
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On top of that, if we keep a late round rookie and cut guys like Sharpton (injury) and McGee (4th QB), it would put $200K back into our coffee (each).
Guys like McClain and Clutts (odd mans out) would put about $100K back each.

Is it normal to put football players in coffee?
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Is it normal to put football players in coffee?
LOL; you read it wrong.

We're so rich we can afford to leave a couple hundred grands for tip at Starbuck.
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LOL; you read it wrong.

We're so rich we can afford to leave a couple hundred grands for tip at Starbuck.
AH HA! I caught you editing your post! LOL

It's the off season. We have to find some humor somewhere.
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I believe it is the signing bonus (if any) given to the practice squad player, and not his salary.
Nope - it's the salary...

From Article 13 (Salary Cap Accounting Rules) Section 5. (Computation of Team Salary) of the current CBA:

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For 2013 minimum practice squad salary is $6,000/week, so with a 17 week season, the minimum amount that goes towards a full practice squad roster (8 players) would be $816,000. Obviously, there could be temporary vacancies on the PS due to signings, but since the Texans have a history of a full practice squad, I'd imagine they have this full amount designated towards the 2013 salary cap.
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You look at their cap situation , they have next to no dead money and the cap should increase significantly in the next two years with the new TV deals kicking in. They'll be in prime position cap wise ....
See I'm right there with you and feel like I'm one of the few that actually likes the position we're in. I think Rick and Olsen have been doing a great job the last several years in regards to our contracts, players and cap.

I'm also one that's glad we didn't spend crazy during the uncapped year bc that would have directly effect our future cap position. The league warned not to play fancy Enron accounting with contracts that year and the Texans listened.

Plus there was plenty of talk about how the cap would NOT significantly increase during the first several years of the new CBA and that it would be gradual increase and/or relatively flat. The Texans are smart enough to know that and didn't "plan" for a huge cap increase just to sign high $ FA's. otherwise we'd actually be in cap hell right now!
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Nope - it's the salary...

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What is the "except to the extent otherwise provided"?
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Default Can we sign Brandon Lloyd?

With just 4.9M left in cap space (before Jacksonville FB acquisition), could the Texans make a legit attempt at acquiring him?



Do you think its worth it?






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What is the "except to the extent otherwise provided"?
The "except" has to do with another team picking up a PS player and then cutting him in less than three weeks. Not applicable in the vast majority of PS player situations.
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What if Schaub becomes Flacco 2.0 and win the SB?


Then we over pay him and watch our team leave.



JK, that would be great, but unlikely.
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$102,000 salary plus per diem in OTA, minicamp, TC, PS plus meal allowances, etc.

That's between $110-$115K for a guy on the PS... not too bad.
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Very doubtful, unless Lloyd is willing to take a big pay cut.

He pocketed some $4M last year (on a 3-yr contract that supposedly run through 2014).

I'm thinking he's holding out for at least $2.5-$3M per.

It can be done, but I'm not holding out much hope.
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I do not know the what the cap ramifications would be but I sure am hoping that the Redskins are willing to part ways with Kirk Cousins after next season in exchange for 2 high draft picks and we can part ways with Schuab. That would be ideal.
Depending on the way things shake down in Philly (just as it depends on how things happen in Washington), I think the best bet, for less picks (or lower round picks) would be for Nick Foles to come to Houston and light it up. I believe he's the better prospect of the two that could conceivably be attained.

1.) Foles
2.) Cousins

I would just hate for Foles to become the next Billy Volek...and he has a greater chance of that happening.
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Yep but I think they will eventually trade Cousins unless RGIII's career is derailed by multiple injuries. They won't give both QB's a massive contract and there is little to no chance that the Redskins slap a franchise tag on a backup QB. The bad news is that he is under contract for 3 more years. If he plays like he did last year we need to really make a concerted effort to obtain his services.
what is so great about cousins ? what has he done that Yates has not .
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Holy crap, the Bengals still have 29 million dollars in cap space?
Their owner is notorious for being cheap. He never pays anyone. They have 3-4 young guys they should re-sign right now and he doesn't want to open his checkbook.
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They need to get antonio off that 9.5m. He's not worth that no matter what people try to say. He's a 5m a yea max player. Either they need to extend him for 4 yrs and thin his number out or cut him. 4 yrs 20m with 6m guarantee is what they should offer him. They could get lloyd,seymore,and alan branch for 9.5m
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They need to get antonio off that 9.5m. He's not worth that no matter what people try to say. He's a 5m a yea max player. Either they need to extend him for 4 yrs and thin his number out or cut him. 4 yrs 20m with 6m guarantee is what they should offer him. They could get lloyd,seymore,and alan branch for 9.5m
I think they'll extend him pretty soon. Its probably already in the works.
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I repeat; all they need to do is to cut Schaub.
Schaub's contract is suddenly looking a lot better. With the deal Flaco and Romo signed and what Rogers is going to get, Schaub's deal suddenly looks a lot more manageable.
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Schaub's contract is suddenly looking a lot better. With the deal Flaco and Romo signed and what Rogers is going to get, Schaub's deal suddenly looks a lot more manageable.
Not really. There would not have been a market for Schaub. Flacco had leverage. Rodgers would have had leverage. Jerry Jones is completely insane. Schaub is overpayed.
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