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Old 03-22-2013   #1961
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I'm not gonna lie i was never really a big fan of the guy but what he says here in the last 2 minutes really made me like Ed Reed. Wow never gained so much respect from someone over something so small.

Yeah i know it might be strande that it took that for me to really like him, but what can i say
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Heard of that JJ Watt guy? He was recently drafted. Might even play in the trenches. Last years #1 too.

Are you so negative about everything in life?!? Good lord, enjoy the moment.
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I'm not gonna lie i was never really a big fan of the guy but what he says here in the last 2 minutes really made me like Ed Reed. Wow never gained so much respect from someone over something so small.

Yeah i know it might be strande that it took that for me to really like him, but what can i say
I wouldn't call myself a fan of his either, but I always respected what he does. I'm really excited to have him on our team, finally we have someone with a reputation for making QBs pay. We never had a guy with a reputation for getting interceptions, not like this, not where Bradies or Mannings had to look for a particular person in our secondary.

Yeah, Jjo, Manning & Kjax are going to make it hard on receivers & QBs, but they don't have a reputation like Reed.

I know he's not the same guy he used to be, but we have two very nice corners & a nice safety in Manning, Reed's box just got a lot smaller. Especially with Watt & Antonio up front.
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Loved how he came across in the presser, it's gonna be cool to see him as a Texan next season.
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General manager Rick Smith was not surprised when told free safety Ed Reed was working out in the Texans’ weight room about an hour after his introductory news conference.

“Every time I’ve spoken with Ed, whether on the phone or in person, he was either working out or on his way to work out,” Smith said. “That’s the kind of player he is. That’s the kind of dedication he has.”

After Smith got Reed under a three-year, $15 million contract that counts only $3.33 million against the salary cap this year, he turned his attention to punter Shane Lechler.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/

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Wait.

$3.33 million against the cap this year?

We could still make some moves without even restructuring.
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Wait.

$3.33 million against the cap this year?

We could still make some moves without even restructuring.
One of the guys more familiar with the cap would know better than me, but I think we have to leave some for rookie signings.
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One of the guys more familiar with the cap would know better than me, but I think we have to leave some for rookie signings.
Yes, we do. But the rookies salaries are pretty much locked in and not very negotiable. Add that to the fact that we're drafting relatively late, the contracts for the rookies aren't going to be that big.

IIRC, we had $11 million of cap space. We were expecting Reed to take about $6 million of that space this year. Along with Lechler's signing, THAT would leave us enough room for nothing but signing the rookies and vet-minimum contracts without someone re-structuring. But if we've got an extra $2.7 million, that means we might still be able to get one of the better free agents still on the market. (And of course, we can always restructure someone.)
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Yes, we do. But the rookies salaries are pretty much locked in and not very negotiable. Add that to the fact that we're drafting relatively late, the contracts for the rookies aren't going to be that big.

IIRC, we had $11 million of cap space. We were expecting Reed to take about $6 million of that space this year. Along with Lechler's signing, THAT would leave us enough room for nothing but signing the rookies and vet-minimum contracts without someone re-structuring. But if we've got an extra $2.7 million, that means we might still be able to get one of the better free agents still on the market. (And of course, we can always restructure someone.)
I hope you're right....... It would be nice to plug a couple of more holds heading into the draft so we have more flexibility.
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I hope you're right....... It would be nice to plug a couple of more holds heading into the draft so we have more flexibility.
I'm not saying we WILL do that. But Reed isn't going to be as much of a cap hit as we expected so... maybe MAYBE we'll make another move.

Although we'll probably wait a while because the longer we wait, the lower the contracts go.
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Sign one more veteran LB, NT or WR would be nice.
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I'm not saying we WILL do that. But Reed isn't going to be as much of a cap hit as we expected so... maybe MAYBE we'll make another move.

Although we'll probably wait a while because the longer we wait, the lower the contracts go.
I think an argument can be made for waiting or not waiting. Get best value in the draft, get the players you really love at the positions you need, and then wait until after to fill in the holes. Or, address a few positions before, go BPA in some spots in the draft you wouldn't have possibly been able to, and fill in some needs in the draft as well. There will still be some quality free agents out there after the draft though.
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Yes, we do. But the rookies salaries are pretty much locked in and not very negotiable. Add that to the fact that we're drafting relatively late, the contracts for the rookies aren't going to be that big.

IIRC, we had $11 million of cap space. We were expecting Reed to take about $6 million of that space this year. Along with Lechler's signing, THAT would leave us enough room for nothing but signing the rookies and vet-minimum contracts without someone re-structuring. But if we've got an extra $2.7 million, that means we might still be able to get one of the better free agents still on the market. (And of course, we can always restructure someone.)
We had less than $11M.
With the signing of McCain, Gardner, Reed, and Lechler plus the rookie (Not all of the guys on the reserve/future list will make it, releasing a little cap space there) my estimation is that the Texans is right up to the limit; maybe with a Mil to spare.

Any more signing will require restructuring a player or a cut.

Looks like Reed got a $4M signing bonus plus $1M base salary in 2013 (and an incentive for playing time of anothe $1M).

The signing bonus is pro-rated for 3 years, such that 1/3 is counted against the cap this year ($1.333+1+1= $3.333M).
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We had less than $11M.
With the signing of McCain, Gardner, Reed, and Lechler plus the rookie (Not all of the guys on the reserve/future list will make it, releasing a little cap space there) my estimation is that the Texans is right up to the limit; maybe with a Mil to spare.

Any more signing will require restructuring a player or a cut.

Looks like Reed got a $4M signing bonus plus $1M base salary in 2013 (and an incentive for playing time of anothe $1M).

The signing bonus is pro-rated for 3 years, such that 1/3 is counted against the cap this year ($1.333+1+1= $3.333M).
Ah, well. I'd hoped that extra 2.7 would be able to be used on someone.
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After Smith got Reed under a three-year, $15 million contract that counts only $3.33 million against the salary cap this year, he turned his attention to punter Shane Lechler.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/

Talk about work ethic!
& we're talking about $5.5M guaranteed..... yup, slowly starting to like Rick Smith (slowerly starting to think Greg Olsen is worth the air he breaths).
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Ed Reed = The Beard part II. I think Harden and Reed should have a beard off.
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Ed Reed = The Beard part II. I think Harden and Reed should have a beard off.
Well RocketBeard seems to be worth his paycheck. Let's hope TexansBeard will work out too.
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The impatience was what ticked me off.

All of us agreed that we should walk away if he wanted $7+...there's not been a beef over that issue.

What was frustrating, to me, was to see the impatience that resulted in posts claiming we were wasting time and going to miss out on other FAs.

Now that we see we landed Ed at a crazy friendly price, considering Glover Quin would have been a much more expensive option, it shows that patience pays off.

I was all for us walking away if he kept dragging his feet, and who knows...we might have told Ed that we had a Plan B and Plan C ready to go with if he didn't sign Friday. Never know.

I'd like us to add a vet minimum FA player or two to end our off-season spending, then re-structure a few guys if a free agent needs signing after the draft, before or during camp.

Then roll with what we got and see what happens in September. Hopefully January goes better this time around.
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