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Old 03-22-2013   #101
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Hopefully w/ the 27th overall pick. I like Hopkins. His speed is adequate, but he has shown the ability to create space & has good hands. The comparisons have been along the lines of Boldin & Roddy White & I don't think too many could complain if that is the type of player he becomes. I wouldn't be upset w/ Patton, Patterson, or Hunter just for the record, but Hopkins would be a good pickup IMO.
These are the ones I'm wanting, but I'm hoping Hopkins last till 57.
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I hate this kind of ****! And that's what it is, ****! Just throw out random popular opinion and people act like it's some confirmation with inside information. pffff!!!

I bet anything he came to this conclusion from comments McNair made days ago.
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I think he's still somewhat raw as a route runner in my opinion. Not because he's not capable, but I just don't think he was asked to do much in that offense at La Tech. Granted I didn't watch any Senior Bowl practices and I heard he showed a lot in this aspect there. I'm only judging from what I've seen.
He was one of the receivers who had a good week at Senior Bowl Practice, not great, but pretty good. He's a borderline 2nd-3rd rounder; I might have to put him slightly behind Posey (who was drafted at what low 60s?)
That would probably put Patton in the mid third for me.
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I would be really happy w/ Hopkins & Dobson. Dobson hasn't gotten much love on here, but he has some really good hands to go along w/ 4.4 speed & good size at 6'3" 210lbs. Getting him later in the draft would be a very nice addition, but I'm not sure that he would last past the 3rd round. 2 WR's in the 1st 3 rounds could happen, but there are needs elsewhere & Im not sure the Texans would pull the trigger after acquiring 2 last season.
Dobson had injury history that might put some off. He did have good senior bowl.
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I hate this kind of ****! And that's what it is, ****! Just throw out random popular opinion and people act like it's some confirmation with inside information. pffff!!!

I bet anything he came to this conclusion from comments McNair made days ago.
You should be use to this type of reporting. With our local Texan "insider" McLame, he is all to familiar w/ "reporting" the obvious as if he has done an adequate job & we should all be impressed. Pitiful to say the least imo.
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Dobson had injury history that might put some off. He did have good senior bowl.
I haven't seen anything real concerning as far as injuries on Dobson. I still like his potential & can't see him getting past the 3rd. If the Texans got him I would be excited.
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I haven't seen anything real concerning as far as injuries on Dobson. I still like his potential & can't see him getting past the 3rd. If the Texans got him I would be excited.
I'd be stoked with adding Dobson.
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I'd be stoked with adding Dobson.
I would be estatic if the draft fell like this

Rd.1 Hunter, Rd.3 Dobson

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Rd.2 Swope, Rd.3 Dobson. Both are great blockers which is big in Garys offense.
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I would be estatic if the draft fell like this

Rd.1 Hunter, Rd.3 Dobson

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Rd.2 Swope, Rd.3 Dobson. Both are great blockers which is big in Garys offense.
I'd love to grab 2 solid WR prospects. I definitely see why people like Hunter but his non contact ACL injury concerns me. His legs are sooo long he looks almost gangly when making cuts. Don't get me wrong though, he's a stud athletically

I also want a stud pass rusher at OLb and a big fat NT and a young safety prospect (maybe JJ Wilcox).
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Swope and Dobson would be a disappointment to me. Swope is a slot, and he is not enough of an upgrade over Martin to make me want him in the very next draft.
I like the idea of two receivers, but we also really need two safeties in a sense, because Keo is horrible and who knows what Pleasant is.

If they can get Wheaton in the second and then Marquess Wilson in the 5th, I think they would have two of the top 5 receivers in this draft.
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Swope and Dobson would be a disappointment to me. Swope is a slot, and he is not enough of an upgrade over Martin to make me want him in the very next draft.
I like the idea of two receivers, but we also really need two safeties in a sense, because Keo is horrible and who knows what Pleasant is.

If they can get Wheaton in the second and then Marquess Wilson in the 5th, I think they would have two of the top 5 receivers in this draft.
we have a lot of holes to fill with the draft and i'd be disappointed taking a wr with our 1st . . . at 27, we are left with the same quality/value wr that we could get with our 2nd.

with many 3-4 afc teams drafting behind us, we really need to get one of the top 3 ilb's with our 1st or at least one of the top 2 safeties . . .

i think you'll see quite a few of the wr's named on this thread fall into the 2nd or even the 3rd . . . for some reason woods from usc keeps catching my eye . . .
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we have a lot of holes to fill with the draft and i'd be disappointed taking a wr with our 1st . . . at 27, we are left with the same quality/value wr that we could get with our 2nd.

with many 3-4 afc teams drafting behind us, we really need to get one of the top 3 ilb's with our 1st or at least one of the top 2 safeties . . .

i think you'll see quite a few of the wr's named on this thread fall into the 2nd or even the 3rd . . . for some reason woods from usc keeps catching my eye . . .
I'm a ND fan so it pains me to say this but Woods would be a great pick up. Hes coming off a down year, but he dealt with injuries, spotty QB play and the emergence of Lee. He is a top shelf talent, good size, good hands, runs good routes, and runs well after the catch. He'd be a great pick up, especially if we traded back. I'm not sure he'll last until 54.
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Swope and Dobson would be a disappointment to me. Swope is a slot, and he is not enough of an upgrade over Martin to make me want him in the very next draft.
I like the idea of two receivers, but we also really need two safeties in a sense, because Keo is horrible and who knows what Pleasant is.

If they can get Wheaton in the second and then Marquess Wilson in the 5th, I think they would have two of the top 5 receivers in this draft.
We see Swope differently,

Swope is the best slot guy in this draft. He also can/has played outside. Swope is playmaker and the Texans are severely lacking playmakers. Smae with Dobson, who knows how good/problem child Wilson is? I will tell you Wilson isn't a Gary kind of guy.
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We see Swope differently,

Swope is the best slot guy in this draft. He also can/has played outside. Swope is playmaker and the Texans are severely lacking playmakers. Smae with Dobson, who knows how good/problem child Wilson is? I will tell you Wilson isn't a Gary kind of guy.
Please don't tell me you really believe Swope is a better slot receiver than Austin.
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Please don't tell me you really believe Swope is a better slot receiver than Austin.
Austin is a beast. The one thing Swope can do better than Austin is run blocking which is important in our offense. I can't see Austin being available for us, even at 27
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Austin is a beast. The one thing Swope can do better than Austin is run blocking which is important in our offense. I can't see Austin being available for us, even at 27
No doubt about that...... But I was just asking him if he really thought Swope was better in the slot than Austin or if he just forgot about him. I'm a Swope fan, and think he'll be really good in the league if he's healthy. Austin has the potential to be special.
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Why is swope rated so low?

Can anyone tell me that?


I just watched some film on him, looked at his measurables, and I think he's worth a first...but CBS has him as a third rounder....

Is it because he's white?
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Why is swope rated so low?

Can anyone tell me that?


I just watched some film on him, looked at his measurables, and I think he's worth a first...but CBS has him as a third rounder....

Is it because he's white?
Unfornuately I honestly think so. I was surprised he ran a fast time at the combine. He made a lot of big plays at A&M especially his junior year. I said I would've drafted him in the third last year if he came out. Think he's even a little more polished now. His concussions may be one of the reasons though.
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No doubt about that...... But I was just asking him if he really thought Swope was better in the slot than Austin or if he just forgot about him. I'm a Swope fan, and think he'll be really good in the league if he's healthy. Austin has the potential to be special.
Honestly, I'd rather have swope. He has a bigger body..Is really quick...has great speed...Runs good routes...Has good hands...Can make people miss in the open field...

Swope can play all the receiver spots....

I really like Tavon as an overall player, but I don't really want to spend a first on him.
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Why is swope rated so low?

Can anyone tell me that?


I just watched some film on him, looked at his measurables, and I think he's worth a first...but CBS has him as a third rounder....

Is it because he's white?
He's another Don Beebe .
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