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Old 03-16-2013   #41
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Restructures are beneficial for both sides in the short term. It's not a pay decrease, restructures free up cap room and typically accelerate payments to the player.

No need to shed a tear for Andre or any other NFL player for that matter. In no other business in the history of the world do employees get 50% of a company's revenue without risking a single penny of their own.
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This piece from NationalFootballPost covers anything you need to know about restructuring in detail.

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Contract restructurings have been on the rise since the lockout ended because there has been minimal growth in the cap. With the salary cap expected to only increase from $120.6 million to $122 million this year, there could be plenty of restructurings before the 2013 league year begins on March 12 when all teams must be under the cap.

A contract restructuring is different from a pay cut. In a typical restructuring, a player will convert some portion of his base salary or roster bonus (without reducing salary) into a signing bonus because it can be prorated or spread out evenly over the life of a contract (most other salary components usually can’t be prorated) for a maximum of five years. The team gets a lower cap number in the current season while the player gains more short-term security and potentially a better payment schedule in the current year of his contract. The player’s cap numbers in the remaining contract years also increase, which can make him more susceptible to becoming a cap casualty in the future.

For example, Eli Manning created $6.75 million of cap room for the New York Giants when he lowered his 2012 cap number from $16.35 million to $9.6 million by converting $9 million of his $10.75 million 2012 base salary into a signing bonus. As signing bonus, the Giants were able to prorate this $9 million over the four years left on his contract. Manning’s 2013, 2014 and 2015 cap numbers each increased by $2.25 million to $20.85 million, $20.4 million and $19.75 million with the restructuring.

Players can restructure their contracts at any time, including multiple times in the same season. There isn’t a limitation on how many consecutive years a player can restructure his contract. However, once a player receives a salary increase when reworking his contract, he can’t receive another salary increase for one year.

Here’s a look at ten players—with their 2013 cap numbers—who could be candidates to restructure their contracts in the coming weeks.
The candidates they write about include AJ
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It sure seems like they could be doing some creative things to free up cap space with overpriced contracts like Antonio Smith, Owen Daniels and Joseph. Instead it just seems like they're content with being slightly above mediocre as long as the seats are sold. There are now tons of holes and little proven depth on this roster with no indication that anything is being done to fix it.
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this is utter BS. in fact this whole taking pay cuts is freaking unconstitutional and its a travesty that the nfl players union is getting screwed over because demaurice smith is a sheep in wolves clothing.

nfl players are getting screwed over and they need to redo their deal. the nfl is the #1 sport in america yet nfl players dont have guaranteed contracts and they are always taking pay cuts.

If anybody needs to restructure their contract its matt schaub.
LOL. Wow.

Unconstitutional?

It is often a chance to alter the payment SCHEDULE, not always a chance to reduce the pay itself.
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Meh. Andre has been ridiculously selfless throughout his career including a previous restructure. It's hard to ask again and again from a player that has literally been the best example of a football player and good person. Once again dre shows why he is the best when he does stuff like this. I have no issue with FO not asking dre for this.
Well he did ask for a raise when he still had 5 years left on a team friendly contract. That plus a restructure last year has made his contract extremely cap prohibitive for 2013.
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Well he did ask for a raise when he still had 5 years left on a team friendly contract. That plus a restructure last year has made his contract extremely cap prohibitive for 2013.
Still, he's only the 7th or 8th highest paid receiver in the league.
The cap hit of a certain player in a certain year is not as important as the over all cap for the team going forward.

It looks to me like the Texans have been quite responsible in the way they spend money.
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Still, he's only the 7th or 8th highest paid receiver in the league.
The cap hit of a certain player in a certain year is not as important as the over all cap for the team going forward.

It looks to me like the Texans have been quite responsible in the way they spend money.
Been thinking about some things, going to share them now:

Three guys upstairs: Bob, Rick, and Gary.

Out of these three guys, which guy has the most pressure upon him?

Bob is the owner. What REAL ramifications await him on a daily basis? I mean, at the end of the day if his team is profitable, if it's valued as high as we all know it is by Forbes' standards, and if fans are pouring through the parking lots and stadium doors on almost a religious basis...Bob is fine. He's good to go.

Gary is the head coach. He has to be responsible for the football product on the field. So he obtains his assistants, he pinpoints what players we need, he trusts he scouting departments and the guidance of his owner and GM to shape what he thinks is the best team he can create out there.

Rick is the general manager. His role is to manage practically everything, in a sense, especially things affecting MONEY now and MONEY later. Sure, there are departments headed up by other important personnel. But face it, at the end of the day it's Rick's ass on the line for the operations side.

I think the toughest job of the three is Rick's. He's between the owner and the head coach. Rick has to juggle a lot of balls, if you know what I mean.

We've got an owner and a head coach who don't operate in the world that the general manager operates within. On either side of Rick, it appears he's got two guys in Bob and Gary who each want us to be as loyal to guys as we can be...and I see Rick as a guy who is ruggedly opposed to wasting time and resources for such things as loyalty and honor.

When we hear of players being pissed off at the Texans, when they go to their new teams, who are they pissed off at? They aren't mad at Bob. They aren't mad at Gary. I'd bet a donut they're aiming the barbs at the GM.

Rick is an assassin. He gladly relishes the "bad cop" role. Before him, we had so much dead money on the books...via Casserly's incompetence...that it affected us for about three or four years after Casserly left. I think Rick has managed the team well. Not perfect, and sure...it could be that Rick has pushed for some of the bad contracts such as Schaub's...at the end of the day, though, taking everything into consideration, I'd say Rick Smith is doing a pretty good job of things so far.

Anybody here think it was Bob or Gary who decided to not even make an offer to Mario? Which guy of those three do all of you think was the one pushing for Winston to get unceremoniously released? Who do we think pushed to trade Ryans and get value out of him...Bob? Nah. Gary? Nah. A-hole Rick Smith? Yep.

Good heavens, I don't even want to think about what type of wussy-centric team we'd have right now if we had a noodle-wristed GM at the controls. We'd be so dysfunctional, we'd be at the bottom of our division and wondering why were still there.
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Still, he's only the 7th or 8th highest paid receiver in the league.
The cap hit of a certain player in a certain year is not as important as the over all cap for the team going forward.
What numbers are you basing that on? I think with the escalator kicking in he earns more than everyone except Megatron and Fitz on the monster deals they signed.
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What numbers are you basing that on? I think with the escalator kicking in he earns more than everyone except Megatron and Fitz on the monster deals they signed.
From spotrac.
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What numbers are you basing that on? I think with the escalator kicking in he earns more than everyone except Megatron and Fitz on the monster deals they signed.
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From spotrac.
With the escalator (which is the incentive bonus for performance), AJ is earning less than $10M per year for the duration of his contract.
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With the escalator (which is the incentive bonus for performance), AJ is earning less than $10M per year for the duration of his contract.
Considering he still has 4 years left on a deal with massive incentives, I am wondering what performance expectations they are basing it on? Top-10 tier looks close to their figures, but he went Top 5 last season.
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If Johnson hits none of the new thresholds, he would earn $62.7 million over seven years ($8.9 million per year). If he hits the top-10 tier he would earn $68.5 million over seven years ($9.7 million average), and if he hits the top-5 tier the then the max is $73.5 million ($10.5 million per year).
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...ons-for-texans


Anyways, I agree it isn't a bad contract. My original point was they had him locked up for 5 years. He signed early with two years left in his rookie contract for financial security of $15 million in guarantees. But then when he saw what he could have had if he would have waited until 2009 when he would have been a free agent to sign, the Texans capitulated. So he got the best of both worlds, early signing security and late signing pay raise.
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Considering he still has 4 years left on a deal with massive incentives, I am wondering what performance expectations they are basing it on? Top-10 tier looks close to their figures, but he went Top 5 last season.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...ons-for-texans


Anyways, I agree it isn't a bad contract. My original point was they had him locked up for 5 years. He signed early with two years left in his rookie contract for financial security of $15 million in guarantees. But then when he saw what he could have had if he would have waited until 2009 when he would have been a free agent to sign, the Texans capitulated. So he got the best of both worlds, early signing security and late signing pay raise.
It's not a big deal either way.
Especially if you look at getting AJ to finish his career in Houston.
Overall, I think it's a win-win situation.
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It's not a big deal either way.
Agreed.
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It sure seems like they could be doing some creative things to free up cap space with overpriced contracts like Antonio Smith, Owen Daniels and Joseph. Instead it just seems like they're content with being slightly above mediocre as long as the seats are sold. There are now tons of holes and little proven depth on this roster with no indication that anything is being done to fix it.
You know I hate to second guess management. You have to believe there are good reasons for why they do what they do.

However, I think we've got a real window of opportunity to do something special right now. That's two years in a row that I thought we had the best team in football for a good part of the year.

Why aren't we trying to get Dumerville? Instant pass rush right there. Why wasn't Laron Landry at the top of our list if we knew there was a chance Quin wasn't going to stay (we didn't even make a formal offer)? Why hasn't Bob's jet gone to pick up Kerry Rhodes yet?

Right now, we should have the feeling that our F.O. is doing everything they can to make this the best team they can put together for 2013.

& I'm not seeing it. In the past.... yeah. We were too young, we had too much going on, but like I said; We've got a real opportunity here.
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You know I hate to second guess management. You have to believe there are good reasons for why they do what they do.

However, I think we've got a real window of opportunity to do something special right now. That's two years in a row that I thought we had the best team in football for a good part of the year.

Why aren't we trying to get Dumerville? Instant pass rush right there. Why wasn't Laron Landry at the top of our list if we knew there was a chance Quin wasn't going to stay (we didn't even make a formal offer)? Why hasn't Bob's jet gone to pick up Kerry Rhodes yet?

Right now, we should have the feeling that our F.O. is doing everything they can to make this the best team they can put together for 2013.

& I'm not seeing it. In the past.... yeah. We were too young, we had too much going on, but like I said; We've got a real opportunity here.
I think its because they see the window as potentially bigger than next year. Adding a Dumervill or Landry may mean you can't resign Cush or Watt the year after. Or, it may mean gutting the team in order to afford Watt. Pehaps they are thinking its better to have a solid to good team around Watt and Cush in their prime years(when they are paying big $) than a gutted team due to overspending.

In the NFL its all about getting to the playoffs. Once you get in, anything can happen. Nobody expected the Giants to win the superbowls when they did. Its all about being hot at the right time. Its not the team with the most talent its the team that plays the best together.
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this is utter BS. in fact this whole taking pay cuts is freaking unconstitutional and its a travesty that the nfl players union is getting screwed over because demaurice smith is a sheep in wolves clothing.

nfl players are getting screwed over and they need to redo their deal. the nfl is the #1 sport in america yet nfl players dont have guaranteed contracts and they are always taking pay cuts.

If anybody needs to restructure their contract its matt schaub.
"Restructuring contracts is unconstitutional"

"Matt Schaub should restructure"
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Once they win the SB next year, they can cut Schaub to make everybody double-happy and still have plenty to redo Cushing's contract.
Yeah, if they don't pull a Baltimore and sign a slightly above average QB to a record deal....
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