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One of the players I felt that the Texans already had his replacement on the team. Brandon Harris showed flashes when given the opportunity & I believe he has some potential. Harris is a former 2nd round pick that the Texans need to figure out what they got in him before his rookie contract is up in a few years. I think McCain gets in the way of that. Can't say I'm overly excited about this move, but at least the Texans have a pulse during this FA period.
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One of the players I felt that the Texans already had his replacement on the team. Brandon Harris showed flashes when given the opportunity & I believe he has some potential. Harris is a former 2nd round pick that the Texans need to figure out what they got in him before his rookie contract is up in a few years. I think McCain gets in the way of that. Can't say I'm overly excited about this move, but at least the Texans have a pulse during this FA period.
Brandon Harris couldn't carry McCain's helmet. Harris is a wash/bust, whatever you wanna call him. McCain was extremely important to sign.
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One of the players I felt that the Texans already had his replacement on the team. Brandon Harris showed flashes when given the opportunity & I believe he has some potential. Harris is a former 2nd round pick that the Texans need to figure out what they got in him before his rookie contract is up in a few years. I think McCain gets in the way of that. Can't say I'm overly excited about this move, but at least the Texans have a pulse during this FA period.
Harris was awful last year. McCain is one of the better slot CB's in the league.
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One of the players I felt that the Texans already had his replacement on the team. Brandon Harris showed flashes when given the opportunity & I believe he has some potential. Harris is a former 2nd round pick that the Texans need to figure out what they got in him before his rookie contract is up in a few years. I think McCain gets in the way of that. Can't say I'm overly excited about this move, but at least the Texans have a pulse during this FA period.
Frank Bush is that you?


You're worried about a guy playing because of where he was drafted? McCain is clearly the better player.
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Harris was awful last year. McCain is one of the better slot CB's in the league.
McCain had 1 good season in 2011 & had issues of his own last season. He wasn't nearly as good last season as he was in 2011. Prior to 2011 McCain was a complete disaster in 2010 right behind KJ. Based on that, I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to call him 1 of the best based on 1 good season.

Harris got limited playing time last season & still showed some potential. Calling him a bust after very limited playing time is a bit premature & foolish IMO. I also believe it's a bit of a double standard when Kareem played below par for 2 seasons w/ tons of playing time & countless excuses were made for him & here we are throwing Harris under the bus after 2 seasons & very little playing time. That math doesn't add up & it will take more then very limited playing time in 2 seasons before I deem him a bust. If that was the case, Kareem & McCain should've been declared busts & benched a long time ago.
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You're worried about a guy playing because of where he was drafted? McCain is clearly the better player.
Draft position is what got Kareem his playing time despite being a complete disaster his rookie season. Acting as if that is not a factor in certain situations is foolishness.

I said the Texans need to figure out what they got in Harris & he needs an opportunity to prove it. Yes, he was a 2nd rounder & the Texans may have wasted it if they dont figure out what they got. I thought he showed flashes of potential & think he could get better if he gets on the field. Its not that difficult to understand.
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What does it matter?
The guy that shows more consistency in practice will play more.
There will be time when all 4 CBs find the field at the same time.
There will be time when JJo and KJax need a breather.
There's always a chance for injury and right now McCain has more experience on the outside (both in colllege and in the pros).
We can use them both, along with Carmichael too.
They will all see ST snaps as well.
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Draft position is what got Kareem his playing time despite being a complete disaster his rookie season. Acting as if that is not a factor in certain situations is foolishness.

I said the Texans need to figure out what they got in Harris & he needs an opportunity to prove it. Yes, he was a 2nd rounder & the Texans may have wasted it if they dont figure out what they got. I thought he showed flashes of potential & think he could get better if he gets on the field. Its not that difficult to understand.
just because they did it with jackson doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. His sorry play cost us at least a couple of games. He should of been benched but we had a ****ty DC that thought like you.

I don't know what you THOUGHT you saw but apparently no one else here nor one of the best DC's in the NFL seen it. If so don't you think he would of been on the field more considering how bad (YOU THOUGHT) McCain played?

There is OTA's and training camp. If Harris wants to see the field more he needs to earn it there. It's not that hard to understand.
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Good deal, glad to be able to keep him.
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McCain had 1 good season in 2011 & had issues of his own last season. He wasn't nearly as good last season as he was in 2011. Prior to 2011 McCain was a complete disaster in 2010 right behind KJ. Based on that, I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to call him 1 of the best based on 1 good season.

Harris got limited playing time last season & still showed some potential. Calling him a bust after very limited playing time is a bit premature & foolish IMO. I also believe it's a bit of a double standard when Kareem played below par for 2 seasons w/ tons of playing time & countless excuses were made for him & here we are throwing Harris under the bus after 2 seasons & very little playing time. That math doesn't add up & it will take more then very limited playing time in 2 seasons before I deem him a bust. If that was the case, Kareem & McCain should've been declared busts & benched a long time ago.
That's because he was playing outside. He was rated as the top slot CB in the league in 2011. Last year he wasn't rated as good because he played outside half the time with Joseph being in and out of the lineup.

Playing Nickel and lining up outside on a #1 or #2 WR is completely different. He's very good at what he does.
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I'd say i'm happy about this but I want to hear numbers first.
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McCain>>>Harris.

Still, I would like the Texans to look for a CB on the 3rd day of the draft. It's a pretty deep draft for corners.
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Could Harris be the third safety now? I remember them talking about getting him reps at safety last year.
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IIRC Harris had some good plays at some points late in the season. Being asked to cover Wes Welker as a rookie probably earns you some leniency.
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IIRC Harris had some good plays at some points late in the season. Being asked to cover Wes Welker as a rookie probably earns you some leniency.
Harris was in his 2nd year in 2012.
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Good news just for the fact that Harris moved down a spot and hopefully is gone, he is terrible.
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