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Old 03-18-2013   #1381
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If one more person asks if the deal is 10 or 11 million per year....pow! straight to da' moon, Alice.
What!!! we're offering him 10 or 11 million?
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If we are paying him 5.5 per why didn't we just resign Quin? Am I missing something? How is this deal better?
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I am sick of this BS dragging on and on already. I don't even want him here anymore.
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I really don't think Reed wants to play in Houston. I think Baltimore let him test the market to see what he could get. Now he wants Baltimore to match what Houston offered and they won't do it. Now Reed is stuck with the prospect of playing somewhere he doesn't want to for more money or signing for less and ending his career in Baltimore. Ozzie is one smart gm. This is all just speculation on my part of course.
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If we are paying him 5.5 per why didn't we just resign Quin? Am I missing something? How is this deal better?
better player makes it better deal.
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I honestly never saw him wanting to come here. Just like Chris Myers going to Tennessee for a visit. Leverage.

2013 sure is setting up nicely.
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Default Re: Ed Reed to visit Texans

I always felt Manning would be the best fit at free safety. He played free safety and nickel back for the Bears. It shouldn't be that hard to find a run-stopper to play strong safety.
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Could all you guys who are certain that Ed Reed is a scrub and all of a sudden is a worthless football player please expand on those comments? Provide some kind of substantial proof that he will not play well next year, for whoever that is?

Annoying when 'fans' spew personal sentiment all over the place all the while blinded to the football ability. Ed Reed makes plays. He will make plays next year, why wouldnt he? Wasnt he making plays in the Super Bowl? What happened in 1 month that leads anyone to believe he is not worth a shot? Crazy talk.
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Could all you guys who are certain that Ed Reed is a scrub and all of a sudden is a worthless football player please expand on those comments? Provide some kind of substantial proof that he will not play well next year, for whoever that is?

Annoying when 'fans' spew personal sentiment all over the place all the while blinded to the football ability. Ed Reed makes plays. He will make plays next year, why wouldnt he? Wasnt he making plays in the Super Bowl? What happened in 1 month that leads anyone to believe he is not worth a shot? Crazy talk.
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If we are paying him 5.5 per why didn't we just resign Quin? Am I missing something? How is this deal better?
Aging Ed Reed had 1 less INT last year than Quin has had in his 4 year career.
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It was a down year for him no doubt, but he played with some very average players all year as well.
Didn't Baltimore have CB problems this year? If we sign him he won't be the best player in our secondary. it'll be sick.
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Aging Ed Reed had 1 less INT last year than Quin has had in his 4 year career.
Absolutely!!!

It was important for the Texans to retain Quin, but....

and Dread-Head likes big butts and can not lie....'

I digress, Ed Reed even at his age is a significant upgrade over Quin... Quin's upside was his age. His younger age.

As an aside.....

I suggested many pages ago in this same thread, the Texans got "Leigh Boddened'd"...

At the end of the day, I'm not pannicking over losing Quin, or apparently being duped by Ed Reed. This actually happens to be a pretty strong draft class for safeties...

In other words, why wouldn't Ed Reed visit a contender who are hungry for a safety? Up his value to A) Baltimore and B) Teams that can overspend.
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Yeah, Webb got hurt against Dallas right before they played us if I remember right and they never really could find someone to fill the void on the other side. They all just couldn't get it done. Factor in a hobbled Suggs and Ngata, aging Lewis, and suspect players around him then its no wonder that Reed didn't look great last year.
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Could all you guys who are certain that Ed Reed is a scrub and all of a sudden is a worthless football player please expand on those comments?
Who said he was a scrub, or worthless?

To answer the root question of what I hope is hyperbole, all anyone said is that Quin was a better player last year. Others disagree. That's fine, but it's hard to seriously make the case that one is head and shoulders above the other.

Burn %: Quin - 48.4%, Reed 55.6%
Yds allwed rec.: Quin - 334, Reed - 457

Also, Quin was better in tackling, while Reed had 4 INTs to Quin's 2. How that translates across systems is anyone's guess, but neither one are a scrub or worthless. Neither one is head and shoulders ahead of Reed. I think Quin was the better player last year, and I think Quin will never be half the player Reed has been over his career. Do with that what you will, I guess.
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Didn't Baltimore have CB problems this year? If we sign him he won't be the best player in our secondary. it'll be sick.
Not really- we lost Ladarious Webb in Week 8 to an ACL- he was our best CB. Cary Williams played really ell for us down the stretch, Jimmy Smith, former 1st rder, got hurt but came on in the playoffs. Corey Graham played really well (made C Williams expendable in FA this year), and someother young guys held up well. Pollard was a beast back tere in coverage- we played 2 high or cover 2 most of the time with some single high safety (Reed) or cover zero.
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Not really- we lost Ladarious Webb in Week 8 to an ACL- he was our best CB. Cary Williams played really ell for us down the stretch, Jimmy Smith, former 1st rder, got hurt but came on in the playoffs. Corey Graham played really well (made C Williams expendable in FA this year), and someother young guys held up well. Pollard was a beast back tere in coverage- we played 2 high or cover 2 most of the time with some single high safety (Reed) or cover zero.
Didn't you have Brown from Texas playing for y'all? If so then you had corner problems.
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I always felt Manning would be the best fit at free safety. He played free safety and nickel back for the Bears. It shouldn't be that hard to find a run-stopper to play strong safety.
Bernard Pollard?

Just kidding. My real answer is Matt Elam. Which I have been screaming for what seems like 3-4 months now.
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Although general manager Rick Smith and agent David Dunn have talked about free agent free safety Ed Reed since they arrived at the league meetings, they donít appear to be closer to getting a deal done.

Obviously, Reed wants more than the Texans are offering, but theyíre limited by the salary cap. They place a value on players, and itís difficult to get them to budge.
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Not really- we lost Ladarious Webb in Week 8 to an ACL- he was our best CB. Cary Williams played really ell for us down the stretch, Jimmy Smith, former 1st rder, got hurt but came on in the playoffs. Corey Graham played really well (made C Williams expendable in FA this year), and someother young guys held up well. Pollard was a beast back tere in coverage- we played 2 high or cover 2 most of the time with some single high safety (Reed) or cover zero.
Webb was hurt in week 6 against Dallas.
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