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Old 03-15-2013   #1021
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I know. It would cost $8 million. Way out of our range.
There are all sorts of ways to structure contracts. Look at Flacco or what Miami is doing with all its signings. Flacco's contract averages over $20 mil per year but the cap hit next year is $6.8 mil.
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He's actually good friends with Andre Johnson.
And Frank Gore and Chuck Pagano and reggie wayne
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I don't get the Eyore attitude. It's like there is nothing which can be done will be satisfactory. If he leaves we were just being played. If he signs we overpaid.
No Eyore attitude here. I just don't like the deal. 12 year player, past his prime and not a physical tackler anymore. Playing in Wade's line em up and play man cover defense. Sure he was a great player, but unless you get him cheap, any contract 6-7 mil a year will be too much. You don't have to be a pessimist to not like this deal.
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John Elway is already in the process of convincing many that he can be a very good GM very quickly while we are still holding on to hope that Smith can eventually hit & surpass the "ok" GM standard. LOL! Just messing w/ you...sorta.
At any rate, if you like to "discuss" Elway, start a thread in the NFL forum and I will be happy to join you.

Let's not annoint the guy before all the facts are laid out.
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No Eyore attitude here. I just don't like the deal. 12 year player, past his prime and not a physical tackler anymore. Sure he was a great player, but unless you get him cheap, any contract 6-7 mil a year will be too much. You don't have to be a pessimist to not like this deal.
I would much rather have a cheaper vet as well but if the Texans see the Patriots as unbeatable, Reed would be the guy to get.
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No Eyore attitude here. I just don't like the deal. 12 year player, past his prime and not a physical tackler anymore. Sure he was a great player, but unless you get him cheap, any contract 6-7 mil a year will be too much. You don't have to be a pessimist to not like this deal.
There's no indication that it will be in the $6-7M range though.
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There's no indication that it will be in the $6-7M range though.
He want's 7 mil a year...that's an indication. Texans want to pay 5 supposedly - That's an indication of why it's not done. Any more obvious stuff to point out?
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Looks like Reed's attempt to buy time and make the Texans blink didn't work.
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He want's 7 mil a year...that's an indication. Texans want to pay 5 supposedly - That's an indication of why it's not done. Any more obvious stuff to point out?
Well, if it's not done due to the difference then no harm to it.

If anything, I'd like to see an incentive clause in his contract.
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If he wants $6-$7 million then it's a no go and thanks for visiting. I'm leery to pay him even $5 million a year.
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No Eyore attitude here. I just don't like the deal. 12 year player, past his prime and not a physical tackler anymore. Playing in Wade's line em up and play man cover defense. Sure he was a great player, but unless you get him cheap, any contract 6-7 mil a year will be too much. You don't have to be a pessimist to not like this deal.
Agreed, 6M-7M is too much. We need to sign Mikell and Roy Miller. Well, Miller just signed with the Jags. I think he would have been a cheap repalcement/upgrade over Cody. Can we get Mikell on the plane or something, we need a vet safety.
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If rumors are true that we wanted $5 mill-per and Ed wanted closer to an average of around $6 or $7 mill-per....then, yeah it's over.

For us, that $1 or $2 mill is vital for other needs. And frankly this possibly Ed trying for a big deal with the Texans, cashing in a favor of Andre Johnson to take a run at joining our team at the same time. Two birds with one stone. After this, our front office should tell AJ to stop the twitter invitations to his pals out there (psssst! It doesn't work out well for us, Andre.).

Time is ticking, though, so the Texans have to decide if they sit out too long and miss out on the FAs that could be money well spent...or if we maybe overpay a bit for someone right now ASAP.

I don't think the fans will stomach non-action right now, then a really putrid free agency signing in the summer which adds up to being a farce when we really screwed the pooch waiting on Ed Reed and watching other guys get signed.

They need to peg $5 million or maybe up to $6 million to spend on ANY freaking player they think can even marginally help our team....then use the remaining $5 million or so for rookie deals and emergency cash if we need to sign someone during camp or preseason due to an injury of ours.

If the Texans don't follow my strategy, then they are dumb. I do this on a message board all day, so I'm pretty good at imaginary GM. A legend in my own mind, of course. LOL.
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"Talks continuing" is spin.
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That's An awfully big plate of crow you are getting ready to eat. Or raven I guess in this particular situation
Almost 24 hours later and I am still waiting to have my plate of ravens.
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Almost 24 hours later and I am still waiting to have my plate of ravens.
I told you that you might be the one who is right all along!

Ha ha! You were like a ninja, out of the darkness came a blowdart right into our neck and we thought it was a mosquito bite.....then we wondered why we fell down on the floor, convulsed for awhile, then slipped into peaceful sleep.

Nitro ninja'd us. And 98% of you guys never saw him do it.

But I did. I nodded to the ninja, he nodded back in mutual respect, and I walked away with my life that night. I now live to tell the story of that fateful night that NitroGSXR slipped into our master's dwelling and left only one standing...me.
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I told you that you might be the one who is right all along!

Ha ha! You were like a ninja, out of the darkness came a blowdart right into our neck and we thought it was a mosquito bite.....then we wondered why we fell down on the floor, convulsed for awhile, then slipped into peaceful sleep.

Nitro ninja'd us. And 98% of you guys never saw him do it.

But I did. I nodded to the ninja, he nodded back in mutual respect, and I walked away with my life that night. I now live to tell the story of that fateful night that NitroGSXR slipped into our master's dwelling and left only one standing...me.
Hey, it's the off-season.

It's always fun talking about possible FA acquisition.
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I told you that you might be the one who is right all along!

Ha ha! You were like a ninja, out of the darkness came a blowdart right into our neck and we thought it was a mosquito bite.....then we wondered why we fell down on the floor, convulsed for awhile, then slipped into peaceful sleep.

Nitro ninja'd us. And 98% of you guys never saw him do it.

But I did. I nodded to the ninja, he nodded back in mutual respect, and I walked away with my life that night. I now live to tell the story of that fateful night that NitroGSXR slipped into our master's dwelling and left only one standing...me.
This is me in real life... sporting the Ninja facepaint and ready to pull out my sword.

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My sources tell me he's going to New England. My Sources are coming from my gut.
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I think this is just bluster from the FO.
Boy did you smell this one. This was definitely their Casserly moment.
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