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Old 03-15-2013   #981
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Elway just screwed up the pooch, LOL!
What's really funny is that you are silly enough to believe what you just spewed while ignoring the big picture & the fact that he convinced a key member of his team to take a pay cut. Missing the deadline on getting signature because of the player pales in comparison to the fact that Elway kept his team intact & strong by getting the player to take a pay cut. A pay cut on a contract that many are already predicting the player will resign. Hardly a dramatic screw up, but I realize the desperation in trying to prove something. LOL! Please try again because that was not that good of an example of screwing the pooch based on what all Elway has accomplished thus far.
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Wow- who knew you could stoop so low? Was that really necessarry when you have no idea who the heck I am, where I come from, what I do for a living?

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I sure hope somebody is trying to get Quinten Mikell over here with the quickness bec I doubt the Ed Reed deal is happening. They can say what they want, deal ongoing...whatever. If he was going to sign 98% he would have signed before he left. The good thing is that there are other options, I hope the FO is on the phone.
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Flacco vs Schaub cap hits

2013 $ 6.8 vs $11.7
2014 $14.8 vs $10.7
2015 $14.9 vs $14.5
If that's the case, then the details of his contract has been grossly overstated.
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Flacco's guarantee includes a $29 million signing bonus and he will average $20.1 million per year, a slightly higher average than Saints QB Drew Brees' previous record.

The Super Bowl XLVII MVP also will make $62 million in the first three years of the deal -- $1 million more than Brees. Flacco will earn $51 million in the first two seasons.
$6.8 + $14.8 + $29 = $50.6M, but that's counting portions of the $29M bonus twice since some of it should already be built into his cap hits for the first two years.
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What's really funny is that you are silly enough to believe what you just spewed while ignoring the big picture & the fact that he convinced a key member of his team to take a pay cut. Missing the deadline on getting signature because of the player pales in comparison to the fact that Elway kept his team intact & strong by getting the player to take a pay cut. A pay cut on a contract that many are already predicting the player will resign. Hardly a dramatic screw up, but I realize the desperation in trying to prove something. LOL! Please try again because that was not that good of an example of screwing the pooch based on what all Elway has accomplished thus far.
You don't think thatvlosing a competent pass rusher is important? lOL!
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If that's the case, then the details of his contract has been grossly overstated.
$6.8 + $14.8 + $29 = $50.6M, but that's counting portions of the $29M bonus twice since some of it should already be built into his cap hits for the first two years.
That's because he's leaving out the bulk of the contract.

http://www.overthecap.com/cap.php?Na...QB&Team=Ravens

2016: $28,550,000
2017: $31,150,000
2018: $24,750,000
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You don't think thatvlosing a competent pass rusher is important? lOL!
LOL! Who said he was lost? The report is he took a pay cut & based on the money many are already predicting he will waste no time resigning it consisering what others have signed for thus far. Once again, compared to all if the moves Elway has made & continues to make this hardly a huge mistake & one I'm sure many will forgive considering Elway has quickly turned the Broncos into the odds on favorite to win it all. I don't hear that kind of talk going on around here. Convincing a key player to take a pay cut & creating cap space while signing key players is a minor blemish compared to Rick Smith's recent woes. I will take Elway's small mistake all day to say the least.
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LOL! Who said he was lost? The report is he took a pay cut & based on the money many are already predicting he will waste no time resigning it consisering what others have signed for thus far. Once again, compared to all if the moves Elway has made & continues to make this hardly a huge mistake & one I'm sure many will forgive considering Elway has quickly turned the Broncos into the odds on favorite to win it all. I don't hear that kind of talk going on around here. Convincing a key player to take a pay cut & creating cap space while signing key players is a minor blemish compared to Rick Smith's recent woes. I will take Elway's small mistake all day to say the least.
I guess you haven't read the news
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Didn't we just get rid of one of those.... Jacoby
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Ummmm...yes I have. That's why I know what you are talking about since you gave no details. Dumervil took a pay cut & failed to get his signature on the contract in time & the Broncos missed the deadline to have it filed by a few minutes. Now Dumervil can test the market as a FA, but many have said the amount Dumervil was to get paid is a good deal compared to what others have signed for & expect him to resign the contract. Guess you are still missing or refusing to acknowledge that last little tidbit that I keep stating as well as the big picture that Elway continues to move his team in the right direction. If you think that small mistake wipes away all the good Elway has done as you, as well as.many others,continue to make excuses for Smith then you are only fooling yourself. It's really not that complicated.

Side note- to be fair some are reporting that Dumervil being "cut" due to the technicality will result in $5M in dead money & he could possibly not be reigned. Either way this was option the Broncos were exploring beforehand & still freed them of his $12M salary. This still doesn't erase all that Elway has done, but is a mistake that wasn't intended.
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Didn't we just get rid of one of those.... Jacoby
Jacoby had his issues, but he was nowhere near the distraction that Ochocinco was for the Bengals. Jacoby right now is a much better player than Chad has been in a few years.
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What's really funny is that you are silly enough to believe what you just spewed while ignoring the big picture & the fact that he convinced a key member of his team to take a pay cut. Missing the deadline on getting signature because of the player pales in comparison to the fact that Elway kept his team intact & strong by getting the player to take a pay cut. A pay cut on a contract that many are already predicting the player will resign. Hardly a dramatic screw up, but I realize the desperation in trying to prove something. LOL! Please try again because that was not that good of an example of screwing the pooch based on what all Elway has accomplished thus far.
I'm not sure what you're saying here, I think you're talking about Dumerville. If you are, I think that's a good point. Why would Dumerville take a paycut he'll get paid if he hits free agency. This dude just came off a double digit sack year for the third time in a 6 year career.

Then Philly gets Barwin to ink a deal where he's only getting $4.5M over the first three years of the deal. Only $8Million guaranteed over the first 2 years, then you can cut him at no cost. I see no reason we couldn't afford to pay Connor $4.5M/yr. & if Rick Smith offered Connor something similar before 2012 & couldn't seal the deal..... I mean, c'mon guys. The writing is on the wall.

& if Quin is signing deals similar to what we would've/should've/could've offered??? I'm sorry (not really) but the man (Smith) has a lot to prove.
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LOL! Who said he was lost? The report is he took a pay cut & based on the money many are already predicting he will waste no time resigning it consisering what others have signed for thus far. Once again, compared to all if the moves Elway has made & continues to make this hardly a huge mistake & one I'm sure many will forgive considering Elway has quickly turned the Broncos into the odds on favorite to win it all. I don't hear that kind of talk going on around here. Convincing a key player to take a pay cut & creating cap space while signing key players is a minor blemish compared to Rick Smith's recent woes. I will take Elway's small mistake all day to say the least.
you're all over the place, man.

I was never criticizing Elway's body of work.

I only laughed at how he was able to snatch defeat out of the jaw of victory in this case.

If you don't find it funny, that's quite alright!
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