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Old 03-15-2013   #41
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Yea I feel the same way! Was with him until last season. He proved to me at least he's not a big lights qb. I feel a Ryan Fitzpatrick coming on
I'd be fine with that. He's a better QB than what the Bills made him into, IMO.

He's known for being very cerebral, which Kubiak wants in his "Yes Sir, No Risky Moves, Sir!" QBs. Just need to identify the pre-snap look, then make the high percentage throw. That's it. And Schaub is on the ropes here.

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Via CSN AJ also has been recruiting Chad Johnson to come to the Texans.
OK, well...look, that's just been AJ being AJ and has no implication on anything at all. There's zero chance of that happening, not even if CJ was available for $1.99 or $2.15 max. And I'm not talking millions. Not even thousands.

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Yeah, but what about the chemistry between Pollard and Kareem Jackson. They also have worked together. I think I'd rather sit in a room with a mixture of bleach and ammonia, rather than watch those two work together in the Texans' secondary.
Whuh? Come on now, you jest...surely you jest!

That was 2010 under David Gibbs. Everybody looked like hammered dog ****, Dale. Everybody. KJ is miles beyond his 2010 self. And so is Pollard.

The only thing I dislike about Pollard is knack for getting the occasional 15-yarder for going too strong on the hits. But that's it. The guy is fine, so is Reed, and them and KJ would all three be fine together.

It'd be a hellacious secondary, maybe the best ever in Houston.
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You and about every texan fan. So dont feel bad i was a big Schaub Supporter until last season.
Dont count me in those " every texan fan" I still think Schaub can get it done if you give him somebody else to pass the ball beside AJ and OD! how do you expect a QB to succeed if the coach always tells him to throw the ball to the people that everybody knows will be thrown to? Give him a legit WR2 another good catching TE or a good slot WR and give him some freedom Kubiak please! You suck at play calling and you are dragging the whole offense with you, even worst, you are throwing Schaub under the bus so most fans will be against him.
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back on the first player announced lol i think we just got used big time. on to the next one before its to late. i really dont want to head into next season with a rookie safety or even worse keo
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HERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!

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The Texans have signed restricted free agent T Andrew Gardner


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HERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!

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i think we just got used big time.
So you think Reed never had any intention of considering playing for the Texans? I guess you think AJ was complicit as well.

Damn people, it isn't over yet and even if it never happens it doesn't mean Reed "used" the Texans. The Texans would be stupid to not have a limit on what they are willing to pay and Reed would be stupid not to check on what other teams are willing to pay.
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So you think Reed never had any intention of considering playing for the Texans? I guess you think AJ was complicit as well.

Damn people, it isn't over yet and even if it never happens it doesn't mean Reed "used" the Texans. The Texans would be stupid to not have a limit on what they are willing to pay and Reed would be stupid not to check on what other teams are willing to pay.
i say screw Reed lets use that money on Dumerville.
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i say screw Reed lets use that money on Dumerville.
i like that idea. but i doubt it would happen
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i say screw Reed lets use that money on Dumerville.
I would be more than happy with that. Frankly I think it would be a better signing.

I am just tired of this crap that Reed is playing the Texans like the Texans are just too stupid to realize these players we don't sign have no intention of signing with us. I think it is foolish fan commentary and nothing more.

PS - for the Ryan Fitzpatrick people, pull your Schaub hating heads out of your butts. Fitzpatrick's best results don't come close to Schaub's worst. Fitz is about to find a clipboard to hold.
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Casey Hampton apparently is an option. He's told a few friends he wants to end his career in Texas.
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Pollard could be a cheap hire (maybe) but I doubt the Texans need him; that would be over the top.

Winston is too rich (probably); so maybe Casey Hampton.
Could he play ilb next to Cush?
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PS - for the Ryan Fitzpatrick people, pull your Schaub hating heads out of your butts. Fitzpatrick's best results don't come close to Schaub's worst. Fitz is about to find a clipboard to hold.
They can't be serious. Chalk it up to the green beer talking.
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I bet Gardner was bummed when he found out that Rick wasn't bringing him on stage after Ed Reed, since Ed wound up Car Washing his way back to the east coast today.

Ruined his big day.
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I would be more than happy with that. Frankly I think it would be a better signing.

I am just tired of this crap that Reed is playing the Texans like the Texans are just too stupid to realize these players we don't sign have no intention of signing with us. I think it is foolish fan commentary and nothing more.
I think since we've been burned a couple of times it's led people to have that jumpy feeling. Those were all guys (Pace, Bodden, Nnamdi maybe) that would have been coming to a bad team. This is a good team that has a lot of pieces in place for a SB run. Players aren't going to use us to get more money. They might sign elsewhere, but if Reed was in town it was because he is interested. He might still sign.
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If Reed doesn't sign I could see Winfield or Woodson playing S for the Texans next season.
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If Reed doesn't sign I could see Winfield or Woodson playing S for the Texans next season.
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I think since we've been burned a couple of times it's led people to have that jumpy feeling. Those were all guys (Pace, Bodden, Nnamdi maybe) that would have been coming to a bad team. This is a good team that has a lot of pieces in place for a SB run. Players aren't going to use us to get more money. They might sign elsewhere, but if Reed was in town it was because he is interested. He might still sign.
There's also a chance that having Ed Reed here for this long MIGHT make other players like Winfield or Woodson capitalize upon Reed's inaction by jumping into the thick of things and basically getting a friendlier deal done ASAP with the Texans.

This stuff cuts both ways. Ed and his advisors can end up being the ones who inadvertently get us our next combo of FA's like what happened with Aso and how we got J-Jo and Manning wrapped up all at once.....leaving the "premiere" player out of the running here.

I think people have this idea that our FO are completely clueless. They might not be FO Of The Decade but look, they're being cautious and playing the odds as straight as they can:

1. Winston obviously didn't wow the Chiefs last season. Released and still unsigned.

2. Ryan. Great player, but not worth the cap hit here. Traded for picks, which seems like the first time the Texans actually received picks rather than giving them away.

3. Dreessen too expensive, nothing we could have done there. Brisiel too costly, he's been released from his new team one year after leaving here for a bigger payday. Jason Allen? Same situation as Brisiel.

4. This year, we didn't overpay Barwin and he's going to meet the same fate with the Eaglws as Brisiel did with the Raiders...in a year or two, tops. He's simply a workout warrior like Carr, Babin, Okoye, etc. Great in camp, absent in reg season.

5. Casey. Whoa! Dude got a crazy offer from the Eagles. Whether he was miscast here or under-used here, not the point. He was gone no matter what.

6. Quin. This is the riskiest move, but coupled with the exits of Barwin and Casey...with a run of player contract restructures looming (to get more cap space) we're trying to land what our FO and coaches think could be an upgrade over Quin for nearly what Quin signed for in Detroit.

I won't say this FO is flawless. But guys and gals, seriously....this is not an incompetent FO.

Wait until two years from now when these "cap rich" teams are eating all these contracts they're signing now. The FA pool and playing field, due to new CBA from 2011, will make all teams respect the cap, spend their cap, and force shrewd dealings. It's what was wanted: No more crazy contracts that screw up teams and screw over fans AND make it hard for great players to land on better teams.

There is a crazy amount of FA talent still left.
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There's also a chance that having Ed Reed here for this long MIGHT make other players like Winfield or Woodson capitalize upon Reed's inaction by jumping into the thick of things and basically getting a friendlier deal done ASAP with the Texans.

This stuff cuts both ways. Ed and his advisors can end up being the ones who inadvertently get us our next combo of FA's like what happened with Aso and how we got J-Jo and Manning wrapped up all at once.....leaving the "premiere" player out of the running here.

I think people have this idea that our FO are completely clueless. They might not be FO Of The Decade but look, they're being cautious and playing the odds as straight as they can:

1. Winston obviously didn't wow the Chiefs last season. Released and still unsigned.

2. Ryan. Great player, but not worth the cap hit here. Traded for picks, which seems like the first time the Texans actually received picks rather than giving them away.

3. Dreessen too expensive, nothing we could have done there. Brisiel too costly, he's been released from his new team one year after leaving here for a bigger payday. Jason Allen? Same situation as Brisiel.

4. This year, we didn't overpay Barwin and he's going to meet the same fate with the Eaglws as Brisiel did with the Raiders...in a year or two, tops. He's simply a workout warrior like Carr, Babin, Okoye, etc. Great in camp, absent in reg season.

5. Casey. Whoa! Dude got a crazy offer from the Eagles. Whether he was miscast here or under-used here, not the point. He was gone no matter what.

6. Quin. This is the riskiest move, but coupled with the exits of Barwin and Casey...with a run of player contract restructures looming (to get more cap space) we're trying to land what our FO and coaches think could be an upgrade over Quin for nearly what Quin signed for in Detroit.

I won't say this FO is flawless. But guys and gals, seriously....this is not an incompetent FO.

Wait until two years from now when these "cap rich" teams are eating all these contracts they're signing now. The FA pool and playing field, due to new CBA from 2011, will make all teams respect the cap, spend their cap, and force shrewd dealings. It's what was wanted: No more crazy contracts that screw up teams and screw over fans AND make it hard for great players to land on better teams.

There is a crazy amount of FA talent still left.
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Agree with your assessment and hope like hell that last paragraph plays out that way. The first step needs to be for GMs to back off on giving one guy - the QB - 10-20% of their overall salary cap.
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There's also a chance that having Ed Reed here for this long MIGHT make other players like Winfield or Woodson capitalize upon Reed's inaction by jumping into the thick of things and basically getting a friendlier deal done ASAP with the Texans.

This stuff cuts both ways. Ed and his advisors can end up being the ones who inadvertently get us our next combo of FA's like what happened with Aso and how we got J-Jo and Manning wrapped up all at once.....leaving the "premiere" player out of the running here.

I think people have this idea that our FO are completely clueless. They might not be FO Of The Decade but look, they're being cautious and playing the odds as straight as they can:

1. Winston obviously didn't wow the Chiefs last season. Released and still unsigned.

2. Ryan. Great player, but not worth the cap hit here. Traded for picks, which seems like the first time the Texans actually received picks rather than giving them away.

3. Dreessen too expensive, nothing we could have done there. Brisiel too costly, he's been released from his new team one year after leaving here for a bigger payday. Jason Allen? Same situation as Brisiel.

4. This year, we didn't overpay Barwin and he's going to meet the same fate with the Eaglws as Brisiel did with the Raiders...in a year or two, tops. He's simply a workout warrior like Carr, Babin, Okoye, etc. Great in camp, absent in reg season.

5. Casey. Whoa! Dude got a crazy offer from the Eagles. Whether he was miscast here or under-used here, not the point. He was gone no matter what.

6. Quin. This is the riskiest move, but coupled with the exits of Barwin and Casey...with a run of player contract restructures looming (to get more cap space) we're trying to land what our FO and coaches think could be an upgrade over Quin for nearly what Quin signed for in Detroit.

I won't say this FO is flawless. But guys and gals, seriously....this is not an incompetent FO.

Wait until two years from now when these "cap rich" teams are eating all these contracts they're signing now. The FA pool and playing field, due to new CBA from 2011, will make all teams respect the cap, spend their cap, and force shrewd dealings. It's what was wanted: No more crazy contracts that screw up teams and screw over fans AND make it hard for great players to land on better teams.

There is a crazy amount of FA talent still left.
Brisiel restructured I think but I agree with everything you wrote here.
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