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Old 03-15-2013   #61
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So if Barwin got 40 QB disruptions on 533 pass rushes as a starter and Victor Butler got 15 on 132 pass rushes as a back-up, what should Butler's value be?
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Kubiak is in no danger and Cowher isn't loooking for a job. But your take on Cowher is ridiculous. When Cowher took over the Steelers, they had been to the playoffs once (1989) in seven seasons. Then, they went to the playoffs 6 consecutive seasons. He built that team. Then rebuilt it. His resume speaks for itself as a winner.
Disagree that Cowher built the team he was handed. Rod Woodson, Hardy Nickerson, Carnell Lake, and Greg Lloyd were already there. Chuck Knoll had already begun the rebuilding process. But his offense... how should I say this diplomatically? ...stunk.

Now Cowher did retool the Steelers over the years, no denying that. And he also benefitted from a sucky AFC Central during that time. Of course, you have to win the games on your schedule, even against "sucky" teams, and he did that.

I'm thinking TK's point was that he inherited a much better foundation than Smithiak did when they got to Houston.
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So if Barwin got 40 QB disruptions on 533 pass rushes as a starter and Victor Butler got 15 on 132 pass rushes as a back-up, what should Butler's value be?
Now are those totals actual pass rushes or simply defensive plays that could be runs?
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Now are those totals actual pass rushes or simply defensive plays that could be runs?
Actual pass rush (no running play was taking into account here.)
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Actual pass rush (no running play was taking into account here.)
Well, the simple math says Butler was more effective pass rusher...

15/132 = 11.4%

40/533 = 7.5%

Would he be as effective playing full time? That's the question...
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Well, the simple math says Butler was more effective pass rusher...

15/132 = 11.4%

40/533 = 7.5%

Would he be as effective playing full time? That's the question...
He should be cheaper, and with Wade drafting him, he should know.
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