Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-13-2013   #221
silvrhand
Site Contributor
 
silvrhand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: La Porte, TX
Section: 135J 5-8
Age: 39
Posts: 2,325
Rep Power: 36798 silvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respectedsilvrhand is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to silvrhand Send a message via MSN to silvrhand Send a message via Yahoo to silvrhand
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *update* SIGNED BY LIONS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutchrudder View Post
Answers in caps.

Anyways, my point is that he's probably really worth about 3-4 million a year, so getting 5 per year isn't grossly overpaying. I imagine the Texans would have retained him for 3 years 10.5m, but he didn't want that because he got a better deal. Some of that extra money may have been because it was Detroit, who isn't exactly a great franchise or city.
3.5 -> 5 million is a large chunk, if everyone made 1 million more that's 52 million in cap space.. 30% is a nice raise.
__________________
Vance Joseph I was wrong, enjoying the slice of humble pie I've been served.

In response to the new Vance Joseph Hiring:
silvrhand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #222
Dutchrudder 
COOL BEANS!
 
Dutchrudder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston
Section: Fort Kickass
Age: 30
Posts: 15,063
Rep Power: 150980 Dutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *update* SIGNED BY LIONS

Quote:
Originally Posted by silvrhand View Post
3.5 -> 5 million is a large chunk, if everyone made 1 million more that's 52 million in cap space.. 30% is a nice raise.
Wait for the details to come out, chances are the Lions structured it to give him only 9-12m over 3 years. The team barely has anyone on the books beyond 2014 anyways, they have obviously declared 2013 and 2014 as their years to compete for a championship. Several of the contracts they signed today have been backloaded to avoid caphits in the next two years. I expect to see Stafford or Suh restructure and push more money to 2015 and beyond so they can keep getting more guys. However, if they do that then 2015-17 are going to be pretty bad years for that team.
__________________
Life is too important to be taken seriously. -Oscar Wilde
Dutchrudder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #223
SCOTTexans
All Pro
 
SCOTTexans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Webster
Age: 26
Posts: 501
Rep Power: 3792 SCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutchrudder View Post
Oh geeze, lots... that's why the safety market is flooded with them right now. Lots of them had expiring deals this year and that means a lot of teams lost their starters (for now). Off the top of my head:

Ravens
Texans
Patriots
Panthers
Bengals
Browns
Redskins
Jags
49ers
Titans
Cowboys
Lions

It's an open market.
You are alway good at Cheering up the Mobs.
__________________
.
.
"Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience" Mark Twain
SCOTTexans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #224
ASidd_1990
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 313
Rep Power: 151 ASidd_1990 is a quality contributor and well respectedASidd_1990 is a quality contributor and well respectedASidd_1990 is a quality contributor and well respectedASidd_1990 is a quality contributor and well respectedASidd_1990 is a quality contributor and well respectedASidd_1990 is a quality contributor and well respectedASidd_1990 is a quality contributor and well respectedASidd_1990 is a quality contributor and well respectedASidd_1990 is a quality contributor and well respectedASidd_1990 is a quality contributor and well respectedASidd_1990 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli
Quote:
"U want to go somewhere where u’re wanted, where u’re appreciated for the things you’ve done & the things you can do" GQ in Detroit ... Quin said in Detroit some teammates reached out and wanted him back, "but they’re not the guys that make decisions." ... When Quin was asked in Detroit how hard the #Texans pursued him, he said "I'm not really here to talk about the Texans."
@gloverquin29:
Quote:
Just want to say thank you to the Detroit Lions organization & coaches for giving me an opportunity to continue my career! ... Thank you to the Texans for giving me an a opportunity to start my career in the NFL and have 4 goods years with them!! ... Also want to thank the Texans fans for all their support over my 4 yrs there! It was fun..
ASidd_1990 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #225
False Start
On # 69
 
False Start's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Waiting For the Turning Point!
Section: 420
Posts: 13,302
Rep Power: 109012 False Start is a quality contributor and well respectedFalse Start is a quality contributor and well respectedFalse Start is a quality contributor and well respectedFalse Start is a quality contributor and well respectedFalse Start is a quality contributor and well respectedFalse Start is a quality contributor and well respectedFalse Start is a quality contributor and well respectedFalse Start is a quality contributor and well respectedFalse Start is a quality contributor and well respectedFalse Start is a quality contributor and well respectedFalse Start is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

__________________

RIP DIMEBAG DARRELL - 1966-2004 - GETCHA PULL!

CLIFF BURTON 1962-1986 - CLIFF EM' ALL!
False Start is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #226
Dutchrudder 
COOL BEANS!
 
Dutchrudder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston
Section: Fort Kickass
Age: 30
Posts: 15,063
Rep Power: 150980 Dutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTTexans View Post
You are alway good at Cheering up the Mobs.
That smiley looks like he has a St. Patty's day hat in his hand.
__________________
Life is too important to be taken seriously. -Oscar Wilde
Dutchrudder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #227
Vance87
Hall of Fame
 
Vance87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Age: 27
Posts: 2,291
Rep Power: 118122 Vance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

Vance87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #228
SCOTTexans
All Pro
 
SCOTTexans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Webster
Age: 26
Posts: 501
Rep Power: 3792 SCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respectedSCOTTexans is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutchrudder View Post
That smiley looks like he has a St. Patty's day hat in his hand.
Yeah just ignore that the arm is coming out of his forehead and i can see it
__________________
.
.
"Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience" Mark Twain
SCOTTexans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #229
Texn4life
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Age: 33
Posts: 3,055
Rep Power: 31529 Texn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respectedTexn4life is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

Oh well..... on to the next one. Its really not that serious people.
Texn4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #230
Goodwrench3
VAI TEXANS!
 
Goodwrench3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Curitiba,Brazil
Posts: 520
Rep Power: 7154 Goodwrench3 is a quality contributor and well respectedGoodwrench3 is a quality contributor and well respectedGoodwrench3 is a quality contributor and well respectedGoodwrench3 is a quality contributor and well respectedGoodwrench3 is a quality contributor and well respectedGoodwrench3 is a quality contributor and well respectedGoodwrench3 is a quality contributor and well respectedGoodwrench3 is a quality contributor and well respectedGoodwrench3 is a quality contributor and well respectedGoodwrench3 is a quality contributor and well respectedGoodwrench3 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

Our FO is pathetic. Just pathetic
__________________
Texans!
Goodwrench3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #231
SAMURAITEXAN 
Subscribed Contributor
 
SAMURAITEXAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 3,485
Rep Power: 19322 SAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respectedSAMURAITEXAN is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

Good luck Glover!
SAMURAITEXAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #232
steelbtexan
Hall of Fame
 
steelbtexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Age: 52
Posts: 12,433
Rep Power: 107872 steelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *update* SIGNED BY LIONS

Quote:
Originally Posted by silvrhand View Post
3.5 -> 5 million is a large chunk, if everyone made 1 million more that's 52 million in cap space.. 30% is a nice raise.
Agreed

When you realize the Texans aren't going to be a SB winner next yr, is it more important to re-sign Cushing/Watt than it is to keep Quin.

This decision really goes back to if BoB/Rick/Gary really believe Schaub is the guy that's going to bring a Lombardi to Houston.
steelbtexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #233
thunderkyss 
& so it begins
 
thunderkyss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Age: 42
Posts: 35,754
Rep Power: 298525 thunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via Yahoo to thunderkyss
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *update* SIGNED BY LIONS

Quote:
Originally Posted by silvrhand View Post
Really you think he's better than some of these guys?

Adrian Wilson, Cardinals - $10,550,000 - Signed thru 2013
Troy Polamalu, Steelers - $8,890,000 - Signed thru 2014
Roman Harper, Saints - $6,250,000 - Signed thru 2012
Tyvon Branch, Raiders - $6,212,000 - Signed thru 2012
Eric Berry, Chiefs - $4,842,800 - Signed thru 2014
Donte Whitner, 49ers - $4,383,333 - Signed thru 2013
Brandon Meriwwather, Bears - $2.950,000 - Signed thru 2013
Kenny Phillips, Giants - $2,586,000 - Signed thru 2012
Bernard Pollard, Ravens - $1,950,000 - Signed thru 2015
George Wilson, Bills - $1,791,666 - Signed thru 2013
Will Allen, Steelers - $1,605,000 - Signed thru 2012
Yeremiah Bell, Jets - $1,400,000 - Signed thru 2012
Jordan Babineaux, Titans - $1,400,000 - Signed thru 2013
Eric Frampton, Vikings - $1,233,333 - Signed thru 2013
Brodney Pool, Cowboys - $1,200,000 - Signed thru 2012
Craig Dahl, Rams - $1,200,000 - Signed thru 2012
Reed Doughty, Redskins - $1,150,000 - Signed thru 2013
Pat Chung, Patriots - $1,115,000 - Signed thru 2012
C.J. Spillman, 49ers - $1,080,000 - Signed thru 2014
T.J. Ward, Browns - $1,058,750 - Signed thru 2013
I don't think those numbers mean they are better or worse than anyone right now. If you think they are better than Quin, they would have been offered more than $5M/yr.

It all depends on when the contract was signed, & guaranteed money & structure is really more important than a 25 divided by 5 figure.

& I agree with Dutch, I value Quin in the $3-$4M dollar range, with the nature of FA $5M is not "grossly over paying" & I really would have thought he would be expecting offers in the $6M range.

At which point, I would have no problem with the Texans letting him go. But for him to sign for $5M, yeah I'm upset. To hear the Texans never made him an offer, even to match the $5M...... I'm upset.
__________________
thunderkyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #234
aussie_texan
Hall of Fame
 
aussie_texan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,335
Rep Power: 21345 aussie_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedaussie_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedaussie_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedaussie_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedaussie_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedaussie_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedaussie_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedaussie_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedaussie_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedaussie_texan is a quality contributor and well respectedaussie_texan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

@sonofbum: I wish James,Glover,and Kevin good luck-They are all great people that I will miss--

@sonofbum: I really hope we retain Connor --great guy, leader & player-one of my all time favorites to coach
aussie_texan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2013   #235
RTP2110
Hall of Fame
 
RTP2110's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atascocita
Age: 34
Posts: 3,017
Rep Power: 6845 RTP2110 is a quality contributor and well respectedRTP2110 is a quality contributor and well respectedRTP2110 is a quality contributor and well respectedRTP2110 is a quality contributor and well respectedRTP2110 is a quality contributor and well respectedRTP2110 is a quality contributor and well respectedRTP2110 is a quality contributor and well respectedRTP2110 is a quality contributor and well respectedRTP2110 is a quality contributor and well respectedRTP2110 is a quality contributor and well respectedRTP2110 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

First Casey, now Quin. How are you supposed to build through the draft when you don't keep the guys you draft and build?
RTP2110 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2013   #236
Vance87
Hall of Fame
 
Vance87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Age: 27
Posts: 2,291
Rep Power: 118122 Vance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTP2110 View Post
First Casey, now Quin. How are you supposed to build through the draft when you don't keep the guys you draft and build?
It's the burden of having a salary cap and a good team. You can't keep everybody.
Vance87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2013   #237
jtexas
Veteran
 
jtexas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 216
Rep Power: 3408 jtexas is a quality contributor and well respectedjtexas is a quality contributor and well respectedjtexas is a quality contributor and well respectedjtexas is a quality contributor and well respectedjtexas is a quality contributor and well respectedjtexas is a quality contributor and well respectedjtexas is a quality contributor and well respectedjtexas is a quality contributor and well respectedjtexas is a quality contributor and well respectedjtexas is a quality contributor and well respectedjtexas is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

Quote:
Tania Ganguli‏@taniaganguli
Wow, Glover Quin's agent just told me the #Texans never made an official offer for him. They talked conceptually at the combine.
Another example of why John McClain's reporting is pure speculation and not actually insider information. The guy may get the first call after an event, but he is always wrong on "the direction" of the team.

From day 1 he has been adamant that they texans #1 priority has been to resign Quinn.
jtexas is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2013   #238
HOU-TEX 
Ah, Football!
 
HOU-TEX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: P-land
Age: 44
Posts: 15,738
Rep Power: 150044 HOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

Cheaper than originally stated

Quote:
Tania Ganguli‏@taniaganguli
Glover Quin's contract with the Lions was for five years, $23.5M for a $4.7M a year average. He got $5.25 M signing bonus. #Texans
__________________
Kubiak: "They’re battling their tail off." Translation: They suck.
OB: "They played hard with great effort." Translation: They suck.
HOU-TEX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2013   #239
Rey
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 14,475
Rep Power: 0 Rey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

Texans didn't want gq back.

Really I don't blame them.
Rey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2013   #240
HOU-TEX 
Ah, Football!
 
HOU-TEX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: P-land
Age: 44
Posts: 15,738
Rep Power: 150044 HOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Lions interested in Glover Quin *UPDATE* Signed by Lions

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rey View Post
Texans didn't want gq back.

Really I don't blame them.
I thought they'd a least think enough of him to make an offer. But you're right, they've had plans from the onset of FA to let him walk
__________________
Kubiak: "They’re battling their tail off." Translation: They suck.
OB: "They played hard with great effort." Translation: They suck.
HOU-TEX is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger