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Old 03-14-2013   #221
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PEOPLE WE ARE GETTING ED MUTHAFUGGIN REED!

Forget about Glover Quin. Ed Reed is the better safety and we could possibly sign him for LESS than what we got for Quin.
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Reed said no contract has been done. Said he's excited to be here and has "a few things to work out."
Well, certainly he has to work some things out. If he just landed, and he's headed to Reliant, then that means he's doing the customary once-over...taking a stroll around the new digs...trying to see if it feels good.

That, plus some good negotiations between him, his agent and our front office, and I'd say a deal could be done today or tomorrow (unless another team jumps into the fray and muddies the water).

Plus, Woodson and 49ers are talking...so it's still very early in the process, and some things might happen that we didn't expect. Just like how it went down with Aso and then we ended up with J-Jo and Manning instead.

I do thinkm however, that this is all but a done deal. Customary meetings and handshaking, fawning over Ed and making him feel welcome, and just doing good customary ground work before anything is signed. We'll see.

Thank you for posting the info, by the way.
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Yeah like if his bank has a branch in Houston.
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I'm beginning to think you have problems comprehending basic written English. When I say "Glover Quin will never be half the player that Ed Reed was in his prime", what about that leads you to think I have "Quin colored glasses" (whatever the hell that is)? When I say "Ed Reed is one of my all-time favorite players, and probably one of the top two safeties to play this game in my lifetime (Ronnie Lott the other)" in post #148 of this thread, what about that makes you think I am anti-Reed?

Quin was a better player than Ed Reed was this year. That's just plain and simple fact. That says a lot more about Reed's decline and age than it does about Quin, but it is what it is. I also said Quin was not worth the $5M that the Lions gave him. So basic logic here, if Quin is not worth $5M and was a better player than Reed, and Reed has lost a few steps and is getting older, why on Earth would I think Reed is worth $6M? I'm all for Ed Reed coming to play on this team - as a replacement for Shiloh Keo or Troy Nolan, not as a replacement for Quin. For the third time in this thread, use him sparingly and keep him fresh for the playoffs, and I think Ed Reed makes a good addition to the team.
You're alright. I know you long enough on here that I know you're just guarded and being what ANY long-time Texans fan would be right now: A bit skeptical that our "best laid plans" might be crap when it fleshes itself out on the field of play on Sundays.

No worries, man. I go back and forth on this, but at the end of the day I remember that hey, We were gonna lose Quin due to money...the Texans are trying to get a competent replacement (one who has true experience)...so this is just fun and games when it's all said and done.

We still have a pretty erratic QB who will impact this team way more than gimpy Ed Reed will. IMO. Look at it that way.
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I'll put one more post in this mess of a thread with people slap-fighting about Rick Smith (Which seems to be spilling over into a lot of threads)

Yes, Ed Reed's tackling leaves a lot to be desired, and yes, he doesn't quite have the range to make plays on the ball like he used to. However, he is still a pretty good safety in this league and I believe a secondary of JoJo, KJax (God I can't beleive how much he's improved in a year or two) and Ed Reed is not something that other NFL teams are going to take lightly. Losing Quin does sting, but I think if you can get Reed on a reasonable deal (And I mean that by him making about $4 - $5m tops as the cap hit) then you might as well go for it.
This is the root of my problem with the potential signing. He's not worth $6M. He's really not worth what you said, except on a 1-2 year deal, which would be fine.
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We still have a pretty erratic QB who will impact this team way more than gimpy Ed Reed will. IMO. Look at it that way.
I don't want to LOL.
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Ed Reed has landed in Houston w/ his financial advisors Brad Davis and Brad Schwartz. Texans trying to woo him http://twitpic.com/cbbjxa

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Ed Reed on Texans interest: "It's mutual. See if we can work some things out. Conversations have been great, amazing, on the same page."
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Ed Reed has landed in Houston w/ his financial advisors Brad Davis and Brad Schwartz. Texans trying to woo him http://twitpic.com/cbbjxa

Gotta be a done deal. Texans would have egg on their face letting pics like this get out then not signing him, imo.
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Gotta agree with eriadoc here. Reed looked O-L-D last year. I have my fingers crossed, but I don't expect him to be an upgrade. Probably a lateral move at best.

If it is only a one year deal, then 5-6 mill wont bother me. Anything longer, and I want to see 3-4 mill per year.
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This is the root of my problem with the potential signing. He's not worth $6M. He's really not worth what you said, except on a 1-2 year deal, which would be fine.

The Texans did not bring Ed Reed down to Houston to make him the highest paid safety in the NFL so you can probably relax a bit on the "root" of your problem.
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I wish I could experience some of that southern hospitality!
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When I say "Ed Reed is one of my all-time favorite players, and probably one of the top two safeties to play this game in my lifetime (Ronnie Lott the other)"
What did you think of Rod Woodson?
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I'm beginning to think you have problems comprehending basic written English. When I say "Glover Quin will never be half the player that Ed Reed was in his prime", what about that leads you to think I have "Quin colored glasses" (whatever the hell that is)? When I say "Ed Reed is one of my all-time favorite players, and probably one of the top two safeties to play this game in my lifetime (Ronnie Lott the other)" in post #148 of this thread, what about that makes you think I am anti-Reed?
just skimmed over the drivel....

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Quin was a better player than Ed Reed was this year. That's just plain and simple fact. That says a lot more about Reed's decline and age than it does about Quin, but it is what it is. I also said Quin was not worth the $5M that the Lions gave him. So basic logic here, if Quin is not worth $5M and was a better player than Reed, and Reed has lost a few steps and is getting older, why on Earth would I think Reed is worth $6M? I'm all for Ed Reed coming to play on this team - as a replacement for Shiloh Keo or Troy Nolan, not as a replacement for Quin. For the third time in this thread, use him sparingly and keep him fresh for the playoffs, and I think Ed Reed makes a good addition to the team.
But your logic is absolutely flawed and here is why, Quinn was better for 1 year, according to some stupid ranking system, Reed better for what, last 11? Reed had 1 less INT last year than Quinn has had in 2 yrs as a Safety, if you want to look at loser stats. If you want to pay for a player that was better for 1 year, than you are not business smart, or about as smart as Al Davis was paying for Larry Brown for his 1 year and SB MVP year. I go by the eye test, and I know I got 20/20 vision, and my eyes tell me Reed is far better now than Quinn, any day of the week, twice on Sunday even at 34-35 years of age.

Ed Reed has a resume, a very good HOF resume. What the F has Glover Quinn ever done? I can easily justify paying Ed Reed 6 mill a year for the next 2-3 years for the simple fact of who he is and what he has done in this league not to mention what he can do as leadership for this defense that seemed to pee pee its pants at the site of elite QB's, that including Glover Quinn. He is an updgrade, even at 34-35, to Glover Quinn in more ways than many.

Not a freaking replacement for Keo...That is just asinine...
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What did you think of Rod Woodson?
I remember him best as a returner and CB, and a great one. By the time he got around to playing safety, he was a bit older and the move extended his career. Not that he wasn't a good safety as well; I just remember him as a CB primarily. Lott moved from CB to safety as well, but did so earlier in his career and didn't do it because he'd lost a step. At least, that's how I remember it.

Still, it's picking nits between HOF players. Woodson was the first DB to go into the HOF since Lott, IIRC.
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I'm surprised by the distance between opinions in this thread, but this is the most fun I've had on Texans Talk since last preseason.
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just skimmed over the drivel....
Well, reading is fundamental, especially if you're going to argue.

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But your logic is absolutely flawed and here is why, Quinn was better for 1 year, according to some stupid ranking system ...
Don't know what ranking system you're referring to and I sure haven't cited one. In fact, I haven't used stats at all in my arguments. Are you familiar with the term "straw man argument"?

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Deion Sanders was better than Quin's been in his career as well, but I bet he isn't better than Quin right now. The last 11 years don't matter in the NFL.

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Ahh, so you dispute whatever stats you were referring to before, but now you're relying on the stats you like. I see. I still haven't used any stats in my argument.

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Maybe you should get whoever's checking your eyes checked. Because just about everyone agrees that Ed Reed looked old and slow last year. So if your eyes are telling you something different, then your 20/20 only exists in bizarro world.

And if you want to talk about bad business decisions, paying guys like Ahman Green and Eric Moulds in the twilight of their career for things they accomplished with someone else is a terrible business decision.
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this is a gamble IMO a roll of the dice but o well

i guess it win and win now state of mind
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