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Old 03-14-2013   #201
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Quin is replaceable. What is wrong with you people?!!
Lol. There's nothing wrong with me. I didn't say Quin wasn't replaceable, but that the Texans didn't play it right. I think they assumed he would be easy to sign. If you've been a Texans fan for a long time you know how bad the safety position has been for us. Quin wasn't perfect, but he was the best we ever had at that position. Like I said, I like Ed Reed but I'm very indifferent to this move if it happens. I get the feeling that without a dominant front seven, he'll be exposed. And no matter how great JJ Watt was last season, the Texans didn't have a dominant front seven. I'm hoping that with the return of Cushing we'll be better at stone walling offenses.
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.....I have no words...if this signing is complemented with another signing I would be ok with it but I just cant see why spend that money on an aging vet. I get the whole "leadership" ideal but damn.
Maybe to they plan on drafting on Safety and expect Reed to show him the ropes?
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I like the idea of Reed, but we can't blow our whole FA budget on him when we still need a pass rusher and a WR.
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I may have missed 1 but I can't remember GM Rick Smith going on Bob McNair's private jet to pick up a FA like he is Ed Reed
Am I the only one envisioning Smith and Reed having a Stark and Roadie moment like in the first Iron Man movie???

LOL! That would be epic. Can't get the visual out of my mind after reading McClain's message there.
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I like the idea of Reed, but we can't blow our whole FA budget on him when we still need a pass rusher and a WR.
Dude, we have Dwight Jones! The next Andre Johnson. Remember?
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Dude, we have Dwight Jones! The next Andre Johnson. Remember?
Oh ya! How are his pass rushing skills?
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I like the idea of Reed, but we can't blow our whole FA budget on him when we still need a pass rusher and a WR.
The Texans aren't counting to fill all their needs through free agency.
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Default Re: Ed Reed to visit Texans

I'll put one more post in this mess of a thread with people slap-fighting about Rick Smith (Which seems to be spilling over into a lot of threads)

Yes, Ed Reed's tackling leaves a lot to be desired, and yes, he doesn't quite have the range to make plays on the ball like he used to. However, he is still a pretty good safety in this league and I believe a secondary of JoJo, KJax (God I can't beleive how much he's improved in a year or two) and Ed Reed is not something that other NFL teams are going to take lightly. Losing Quin does sting, but I think if you can get Reed on a reasonable deal (And I mean that by him making about $4 - $5m tops as the cap hit) then you might as well go for it.

If Reed is using the Texans to get some leverage over the Ravens then so be it, it's not a huge crushing loss, and there are still plenty plenty of FA safeties left on the market.
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Maybe to they plan on drafting on Safety and expect Reed to show him the ropes?
I like that idea but there are other needs. Unless a young wr steps up this team is woefully inept at that position outside of Andre. Then there's the oline which was suspect at best last season. Not to mention another pass rusher. I like Reed and I think he's still good but we shouldn't blow out wad on one aging vet.
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Lol. There's nothing wrong with me. I didn't say Quin wasn't replaceable, but that the Texans didn't play it right. I think they assumed he would be easy to sign. If you've been a Texans fan for a long time you know how bad the safety position has been for us. Quin wasn't perfect, but he was the best we ever had at that position. Like I said, I like Ed Reed but I'm very indifferent to this move if it happens. I get the feeling that without a dominant front seven, he'll be exposed. And no matter how great JJ Watt was last season, the Texans didn't have a dominant front seven. I'm hoping that with the return of Cushing we'll be better at stone walling offenses.
What secondary doesn't get exposed without a front 7 that doesn't get any pressure?
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Well if the jet gets whiped out then I would say it is going to get done. Hope it is a two year deal at the most. We will need to draft a S pretty early, probably round 2 or 3, due to Reed's age and injury history. If he can stay healthy this will be a good signing. Guy will show the secondary how an all time great does it.
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I like the idea of Reed, but we can't blow our whole FA budget on him when we still need a pass rusher and a WR.
Well, we have $11 million under the cap. If Reed takes half of that, we are up against it a bit. However, we can restructure A.Smith and gain $5-$7 million... Cutting him would get us $6 million. Also, Schaub will restructure and has room to do so, as does Manning, OD, Foster- without creating future issues.

Detroit was up against the cap before free agency and made all of those signings. The Texans are in a healthy position with no dead money and little oversized contracts eating the cap moving forward. So, it will come down to their will to do something beyond Reed. Should be interesting. If they are stagnant during free agency this off-season, it will indicated that McNair has the team on a tighter budget than many of the NFL teams.
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The Texans aren't counting to fill all their needs through free agency.
Of course not, but the list of needs right now is too long to address with 1 draft. If Reed is wanting 6mil per for multiple years then I'd be looking at other options at safety and making sure we got Barwin back.
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Oh ya! How are his pass rushing skills?
Pretty awesome. A few weeks ago he said he was not only the next AJ, but that he's also the next JJ Watt.

He's pretty much the whole team if you get down to it. Dwight Jones = BEAST.
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RT @McClain_on_NFL: Ed Reed arrived n Houston escorted by GM Rick Smith. They're headed 4 Reliant Stadium.
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Reed said no contract has been done. Said he's excited to be here and has "a few things to work out."
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Well, we have $11 million under the cap. If Reed takes half of that, we are up against it a bit. However, we can restructure A.Smith and gain $5-$7 million... Cutting him would get us $6 million. Also, Schaub will restructure and has room to do so, as does Manning, OD, Foster- without creating future issues.

Detroit was up against the cap before free agency and made all of those signings. The Texans are in a healthy position with no dead money and little oversized contracts eating the cap moving forward. So, it will come down to their will to do something beyond Reed. Should be interesting. If they are stagnant during free agency this off-season, it will indicated that McNair has the team on a tighter budget than many of the NFL teams.
We got a lot of people to pay in the next two years, too!

Cushing, Watt, KJ just to name the big ones off the top of my head...with the Joseph and Manning contracts expiring in two years, as well IIRC.

Five key positions that we're enjoying NOW...but could be headaches in a year or two from now. We've got great players that many other teams would kill to have right now. Adding Ed Reed would be a solid off-season, IMO. If we can get guys to re-structure and thereby add a really nice free agent WR or another front 7 guy on offense??? I'd be really happy with that, too.
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Ed Reed is going to be a Texan? Pinch me. He's my favorite defensive non-Texan player.

OMG we are actually gonna make a SPLASH in FA. Who would have thunk it?

Rick Smith I take back all the nasty things I said to you.

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wow somebody please help this dude take his Glover Quinn colored glasses off...
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6 mill a year for what 2-3 years, for a HOF FS is freaking a steal for everything he brings to the table...

Reed could easily get between 8-9 mil a year just by his name alone from another team...

are you really this Anit-Reed?
I'm beginning to think you have problems comprehending basic written English. When I say "Glover Quin will never be half the player that Ed Reed was in his prime", what about that leads you to think I have "Quin colored glasses" (whatever the hell that is)? When I say "Ed Reed is one of my all-time favorite players, and probably one of the top two safeties to play this game in my lifetime (Ronnie Lott the other)" in post #148 of this thread, what about that makes you think I am anti-Reed?

Quin was a better player than Ed Reed was this year. That's just plain and simple fact. That says a lot more about Reed's decline and age than it does about Quin, but it is what it is. I also said Quin was not worth the $5M that the Lions gave him. So basic logic here, if Quin is not worth $5M and was a better player than Reed, and Reed has lost a few steps and is getting older, why on Earth would I think Reed is worth $6M? I'm all for Ed Reed coming to play on this team - as a replacement for Shiloh Keo or Troy Nolan, not as a replacement for Quin. For the third time in this thread, use him sparingly and keep him fresh for the playoffs, and I think Ed Reed makes a good addition to the team.
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