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Old 03-13-2013   #61
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Please educate me on how exactly Rick Smith has earned this free pass and the benefit of the doubt 'ten times over'. Perhaps you can convince a guy who feels that Rick Smith is actually not very good at his job. Not imcompetent, but not talented to where his ability is actually accounting for win shares.
Mario Williams. Dunta Robinson. Bringing the payroll under an unexpectedly lowered cap and still going 12-4. Passing on Asomugha for Joseph. Danieal Manning. Is that still not enough?
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Mario Williams. Dunta Robinson. Bringing the payroll under an unexpectedly lowered cap and still going 12-4. Passing on Asomugha for Joseph. Danieal Manning. Is that still not enough?
LOL. okay. (pssss he was outbid for Namdi, but you didnt hear that from me, and if you think that wasnt his first choice then you smoking the cheeba - great consolation prize in Joseph, and only a checkbook made that happen, not like JJo turned down more money or anything like that either. Manning was a solid pickup, even though he did have a down year compared to the first. Yup he brought down the payroll by removing 40% of the starting offensive line, cutting players that strangely go on to become significant factors for other teams. Gets had on trades, when he does make one.

I guess to answer your question, no ... that is not enough. As fans we should have higher expectations especially now that we are winning.
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LOL. okay. (pssss he was outbid for Namdi, but you didnt hear that from me, and if you think that wasnt his first choice then you smoking the cheeba - great consolation prize in Joseph, and only a checkbook made that happen, not like JJo turned down more money or anything like that either. Manning was a solid pickup, even though he did have a down year compared to the first. Yup he brought down the payroll by removing 40% of the starting offensive line, cutting players that strangely go on to become significant factors for other teams. Gets had on trades, when he does make one.

I guess to answer your question, no ... that is not enough. As fans we should have higher expectations especially now that we are winning.
Joseph had more money on the table in tampa who had like 50m in cap room.
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LOL. okay. (pssss he was outbid for Namdi, but you didnt hear that from me, and if you think that wasnt his first choice then you smoking the cheeba - great consolation prize in Joseph, and only a checkbook made that happen, not like JJo turned down more money or anything like that either. Manning was a solid pickup, even though he did have a down year compared to the first. Yup he brought down the payroll by removing 40% of the starting offensive line, cutting players that strangely go on to become significant factors for other teams. Gets had on trades, when he does make one.

I guess to answer your question, no ... that is not enough. As fans we should have higher expectations especially now that we are winning.
And who are those "players" you speak of?
Jacoby Jones? You mean the same JJ that fumbled the punt and gift wrapped 7 points to the ratbirds in 2011? And then EVERYBODY wanted him gone?
Trindon Holliday? Guy had 2 yrs to Shiite or get off the pot and was taking a spot on the roster that they had to use due to Cush's injury. Oh well.

What other players did Rick Smith cut that were "significant factors" on other teams. Lol
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Joseph had more money on the table in tampa who had like 50m in cap room.
He also had an offer from Detroit, were they that much more than the 50 MILL he signed for here? Doubt it.
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And who are those "players" you speak of?
Jacoby Jones? You mean the same JJ that fumbled the punt and gift wrapped 7 points to the ratbirds in 2011? And then EVERYBODY wanted him gone?
Trindon Holliday? Guy had 2 yrs to Shiite or get off the pot and was taking a spot on the roster that they had to use due to Cush's injury. Oh well.

What other players did Rick Smith cut that were "significant factors" on other teams. Lol
Winston comes to mind, but Im guessing you're in the "Winston sucks fold" and maybe I have worse eyesight than I care to admit, but didnt Holliday break a few records? Jacoby doing the Choppa City Juke in the Super Bowl? Catching the hail mary to win what was probably the most exciting game in NFL history? You so nonchalantly throw it out there as if its a note of distinction FOR Smith when actually it counts against him.
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And who are those "players" you speak of?
Jacoby Jones? You mean the same JJ that fumbled the punt and gift wrapped 7 points to the ratbirds in 2011? And then EVERYBODY wanted him gone?
Trindon Holliday? Guy had 2 yrs to Shiite or get off the pot and was taking a spot on the roster that they had to use due to Cush's injury. Oh well.

What other players did Rick Smith cut that were "significant factors" on other teams. Lol
Who cares who he let go? The players he kept haven't done jack either. L O L
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This is all about signing Cushing and Watt in the next 2 yrs. I wouldn't count on ordering those SB rings with a broken down QB any time soon though. Not that there will be any reprecussions from those decisions.

BTW, I'm all for letting Quin walk and accepting our fate as Texans fans, if it means re-signing a HEALTHY Watt- Cushing. Cushing is a hope, Quin is healthy as of now.
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Winston comes to mind, but Im guessing you're in the "Winston sucks fold" and maybe I have worse eyesight than I care to admit, but didnt Holliday break a few records? Jacoby doing the Choppa City Juke in the Super Bowl? Catching the hail mary to win what was probably the most exciting game in NFL history? You so nonchalantly throw it out there as if its a note of distinction FOR Smith when actually it counts against him.
Winston was so great the Chiefs cut him. LMFAO.

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LOL, well some people would have you believe that Wade didnt have any input on some of the defensive signings over the last 2 years either. It was all Rick Smith.
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Winston comes to mind, but Im guessing you're in the "Winston sucks fold" and maybe I have worse eyesight than I care to admit, but didnt Holliday break a few records? Jacoby doing the Choppa City Juke in the Super Bowl? Catching the hail mary to win what was probably the most exciting game in NFL history? You so nonchalantly throw it out there as if its a note of distinction FOR Smith when actually it counts against him.
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Winston certainly didn't suck, but at the same time it was smart to cut him at the time for both the Texans and Chefs.
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Winston was so great the Chiefs cut him. LMFAO.

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That was a failed example on your behalf. Expand the horizons some. Some players fit certain schemes better then others & it's well known that Winston is a ZBS player which Reid does NOT utilize on a regular basis if at all. Winston had a good year a a Chief & was let go because of scheme & not poor play. Get the LMFAO under control because that was a horrible comeback.
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Winston comes to mind, but Im guessing you're in the "Winston sucks fold" and maybe I have worse eyesight than I care to admit, but didnt Holliday break a few records? Jacoby doing the Choppa City Juke in the Super Bowl? Catching the hail mary to win what was probably the most exciting game in NFL history? You so nonchalantly throw it out there as if its a note of distinction FOR Smith when actually it counts against him.
You also guessed wrong. Never thought Winston sucked but you stated released players were "significant" additions to their new teams. Winston was NOT. if so he'd still be a Chief.
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That was a failed example on your behalf. Expand the horizons some. Some players fit certain schemes better then others & it's well known that Winston is a ZBS player which Reid does NOT utilize on a regular basis if at all. Winston had a good year a a Chief & was let go because of scheme & not poor play. Get the LMFAO under control because that was a horrible comeback.
Ok I'll play.
Rico stated Released players by Rick Smith were "significant factors" on their new team.

Well was he?

If so why was he released?

I never questioned his play.

Scheme schmeme .... If he was a "significant factor" he'd still be a Chief. LMFAO
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LOL. okay. (pssss he was outbid for Namdi, but you didnt hear that from me, and if you think that wasnt his first choice then you smoking the cheeba - great consolation prize in Joseph, and only a checkbook made that happen, not like JJo turned down more money or anything like that either. Manning was a solid pickup, even though he did have a down year compared to the first. Yup he brought down the payroll by removing 40% of the starting offensive line, cutting players that strangely go on to become significant factors for other teams. Gets had on trades, when he does make one.

I guess to answer your question, no ... that is not enough. As fans we should have higher expectations especially now that we are winning.
Asomugha was still available (and affordable) when Smith decided on Joseph. He deserves credit for the timing of the decision.

And Tampa would've paid Joseph more, but I don't see how that's relevant anyway.

And the portion of the offensive line he released is either damaged goods now or was overpaid.

And your tone sucks. It makes the discussion unenjoyable.
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Rico stated Released players by Rick Smith were "significant factors" on their new team.

Well was he?

If so why was he released?

I never questioned his play.

Scheme schmeme .... If he was a "significant factor" he'd still be a Chief. LMFAO
Yes, Winston was a "significant factor" for the Chiefs as a ZBS team. If I recall he was rated as a Top 10 RT last season as well. That's not too shabby, IMO, & most would consider that "significant" contribution. Once again, it's a new HC who probably has a different type of T that he prefers & thus he chose to move on. Once again, doesn't mean Winston played bad or is bad player. Scheme plays a role in these types of decisions all time & Winston will get another starting job this season, I'm sure. Still a bad example IMO. Just saying...
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Asomugha was still available (and affordable) when Smith decided on Joseph. He deserves credit for the timing of the decision.

And Tampa would've paid Joseph more, but I don't see how that's relevant anyway.

And the portion of the offensive line he released is either damaged goods now or was overpaid.

And your tone sucks. It makes the discussion unenjoyable.
If I recall correctly, Asomugha was reported to have turned down more money from other teams to play for a team that he desired to play for which was the Eagles. One of those teams was rumored to be a 6-10 Texans team. Hard to blame him for that decision, but I think the Texans moved on from Asomugha because of his doing & not because Smith made a genius move in deciding between the 2. Joseph was the next best one & that wasnt exactly a tough decision. I'm glad Asomugha chose elsewhere & Joseph is a Texan, but it was an obvious move as opposed to great foresight IMO.

I agree Briesel was overpaid, but who was "damaged goods"? Winston played well last season according to most & the stats. That doesn't necessarily say "damaged goods" to me.
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At the end of the day, it's win and loss that count.

The Texans 53 wins since 2007 trailed only 8 teams in the league.

That's a good job by the GM, especially considering a lot of folks don't think much of Kubiak and detest Richard Smith and Frank Bush.
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At the end of the day, it's win and loss that count.

The Texans 53 wins since 2007 trailed only 8 teams in the league.

That's a good job by the GM, especially considering a lot of folks don't think much of Kubiak and detest Richard Smith and Frank Bush.
I think that's a matter of opinion. What it boils down to, IMO, is since 2007 we only have 2 Division titles, 2 playoff appearances, & 2 Wild Card wins in those 2 appearances. That's not a whole lot to brag about IMO. Of those 53 wins none of them is the one that matters the most & I'm not sure this team is getting closer to or further away from that most important win w/ some their recent decisions, last offseason & this one so far. Time will tell but they don't hand championships out to the 9th team w/ the most wins since 2007 so I'm not feeling much better about celebrating a useless statistic. Just another example of celebrating baby steps accomplishments, IMO, but to each their own.
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If I recall correctly, Asomugha was reported to have turned down more money from other teams to play for a team that he desired to play for which was the Eagles. One of those teams was rumored to be a 6-10 Texans team. Hard to blame him for that decision, but I think the Texans moved on from Asomugha because of his doing & not because Smith made a genius move in deciding between the 2. Joseph was the next best one & that wasnt exactly a tough decision. I'm glad Asomugha chose elsewhere & Joseph is a Texan, but it was an obvious move as opposed to great foresight IMO.

I agree Briesel was overpaid, but who was "damaged goods"? Winston played well last season according to most & the stats. That doesn't necessarily say "damaged goods" to me.
Asomugha had no aversion to the Texans at the time, and he was in serious talks with Smith.

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We mentioned last night that the Texans were working hard to sign either Nnamdi Asomugha or Johnathan Joseph last night.

According to NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi, Houston is now in the “lead” for Asomugha’s services. He believes the deal would average between $12-14 million per season.
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After talking with the Texans, Nnamdi sought another bid, and Smith cashed his chips rather than waiting to counter.

Briesel played below expectations in 2012 due mostly to injury. After the season, he had "major" ankle surgery. The Raiders re-signed him, but he took a pay cut and won't be ready for camp. Winston played fine as a Chief, though.
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