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Old 03-12-2013   #61
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And THAT, my friend, is likely to be our "big splash" in Free Agency!
What's yer point?

Waiting just a bit kept us from paying Nnamdi galaxtic bucks and getting J. Jo instead. That kind of free agency spending works for me.
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Some dude on twitter named TexSportsReview saying Michael Crabtree to the Texans.

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But 76 is right in that our work at developing receivers leaves something to be desired and makes it a bit worrisome at the same time.
Hence....... I'd like to see us make a move at WR coach. That guy has been stealing Andre's lunch money too long.
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Some dude on twitter named TexSportsReview saying Michael Crabtree to the Texans.

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No way that's gonna work.

We don't have the cap space.

Crabtree was just in the Super Bowl, had a great playoff run. We can't afford the cap hit.
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Michael Crabtree to #Texans MAYBE


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@Zepp1978 honestly I highly doubt it but was told it may happen before NFC Championship game, if the Niners added a vet. WR


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If he had been cut, then he could have signed with another team whenever. However, I doubt another team really would have spent a dime on him before they saw what else was available. Plus, it's a very deep WR draft. I would imagine most teams would look at a mid-round rookie receiver as a better alternative to Walter.
I wouldn't be so sure. It's always nice to have a vet that can be depended on & with so many young teams out there.... couldn't hurt. He most likely wouldn't cost the other team a great deal of money, shouldn't hurt their plans going forward. As been stated, the Texans is the only team he's going to be playing #2WR for.

Anyway, that's his agents job. Doesn't hurt the Texans in anyway to cut him early & bank the money, start working on the next thing. The only reason I can think the Texans would have waited so long for, is because they only recently made up their minds that it needs to be done.

Which doesn't look good for this FO (imo).
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@Zepp1978 honestly I highly doubt it but was told it may happen before NFC Championship game, if the Niners added a vet. WR


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Countdown to this thread turning into the Sign Asomugha or Eric Moulds thread....
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I wouldn't be so sure. It's always nice to have a vet that can be depended on & with so many young teams out there.... couldn't hurt. He most likely wouldn't cost the other team a great deal of money, shouldn't hurt their plans going forward. As been stated, the Texans is the only team he's going to be playing #2WR for.

Anyway, that's his agents job. Doesn't hurt the Texans in anyway to cut him early & bank the money, start working on the next thing. The only reason I can think the Texans would have waited so long for, is because they only recently made up their minds that it needs to be done.

Which doesn't look good for this FO (imo).
Again, the money is there now, and they couldn't sign any free agents previously anyway (other than street FA's who they had cap space to sign anyway - if they'd wanted), so what would have been the tangible benefit to them if they'd done this earlier?
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Michael Crabtree to #Texans MAYBE


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@Zepp1978 honestly I highly doubt it but was told it may happen before NFC Championship game, if the Niners added a vet. WR


https://twitter.com/TexSportsReview
Just scanned through this cats timeline. I think I'd unfollow. lmao
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No way that's gonna work.

We don't have the cap space.

Crabtree was just in the Super Bowl, had a great playoff run. We can't afford the cap hit.
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According to the source, the Crabtree contract is for six years and $32 million that could maximize to $40 million if he achieves every incentive in the deal. The guarantee in the contract is $17 million, but he is expected to make $19 million over the first three years and $23 million over the first four years. The five-year deal is worth $28 million, according to the source.
Crabtree signed a 6 year deal in 2009. He's still on the hook for 2 more years. Looks like there's only $17M left over the next two years & that includes performance based incentives.

If we get Crabtree, it'll be through trade. The 49ers would have to think the flash they saw was just that, a flash, & the time is right to capitalize on that flash. Maybe they've already made up their minds that he's not the player they want.

If we traded for him, it would be up to us to offer him a new contract. But if he's playing for $4M+ incentives, why would we do that? Not this year anyway, maybe next.

But if he's playing for $4M+ incentives, how bad would he have to be for the 9ers to be ready to part ways?
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So what I'm wondering is are we going to be seeing Walter again with a smaller salary before all is done. I'm not saying I want to see him back, I'm just wondering what the odds are that we do see him again.
This. Exactly this.

I think he'll shop around and it'll be unlikely to get what he's been making here or play the kind of role he wants to on another team.

I really like what KW brings to the table outside of his catching production, but that's the biggest problem. He's not effective outside at all anymore.

I'd love to see him back and relegated to the slot where he's more suited and I think can be much more effective. We need more production and speed from a #2
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wish KW well in the future....he never let the texans down in his time here
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Hopefully this leads to something good, as in getting a legitimate #2 WR that will eventually become the Texans next bad ass WR...

Then again, it may not.

I liked K Dub, he was pretty good for awhile, and made some clutch catches. I wish him the best.
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I don't know if the Texans offered Walter a salary reduction, or if Walter turned it down. But his remaining bonus allocation hit the books, so it doesn't make sense to bring him back now. I think he'll find a decent deal as a #3WR. If not, Walter has made about $20 million playing in the NFL. Retiring at 31 doesn't sound so bad.
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I don't know if the Texans offered Walter a salary reduction, or if Walter turned it down. But his remaining bonus allocation hit the books, so it doesn't make sense to bring him back now. I think he'll find a decent deal as a #3WR. If not, Walter has made about $20 million playing in the NFL. Retiring at 31 doesn't sound so bad.
Kubiak has already mentioned that its a possibility he could come back after the team conducts other "business". I still don't think its gonna happen.
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Some dude on twitter named TexSportsReview saying Michael Crabtree to the Texans.

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Interesting but still under contract I think.

10/7/2009: Signed a six-year, $32 million contract. The deal contains $17 million guaranteed. Another $8 million is available through incentives. The contract can void to five years based on "unlikely to be earned" Pro Bowl and playing-time triggers. Per one clause in the deal, $15 million of Crabtree's available escalators is contingent on him participating in at least 90% of annual offseason workouts. 2013: $4.5 million (+ $500,000 roster bonus), 2014: $3.5 million (Voidable Year), 2015: Free Agent
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...chael-crabtree

cap $6.4m
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Crabtree signed a 6 year deal in 2009. He's still on the hook for 2 more years. Looks like there's only $17M left over the next two years & that includes performance based incentives.

If we get Crabtree, it'll be through trade. The 49ers would have to think the flash they saw was just that, a flash, & the time is right to capitalize on that flash. Maybe they've already made up their minds that he's not the player they want.

If we traded for him, it would be up to us to offer him a new contract. But if he's playing for $4M+ incentives, why would we do that? Not this year anyway, maybe next.

But if he's playing for $4M+ incentives, how bad would he have to be for the 9ers to be ready to part ways?
Boldin cost a 6th round. Subtract the $2.5 m for Walter and Crabtree's cap is less than $4.5. Let's say he plays for Houston for current money and has another 1,000 yd season. 2014 is a player option & at 27 he could be re-signed to team friendly deal.
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I wish Kevin Walter all the best in his future NFL career, except when he might play against the Texans.

This move tells me that the Texans are close to a deal on another FA WR, or that they are confident in getting who they want in the 1st round of the draft, and that they are willing to trade up to go after who they've targeted. WR was already a huge team need but it now becomes much more so.

This might also tell us something about the achilles injury to Posey. It might not be as bad as we think.
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