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Old 03-08-2013   #21
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Terrence Williams... thats it.
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Terrence Williams... thats it.
Terrance will be available #27 so Texans can stand pat & still select him, Bro
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Default Re: Who would you trade up for?

I'd rather trade down for the long term.
There are more college teams now; the sport is getting so big that the smaller schools can afford to field teams and hire coaches.
The teaching techniques are getting better and better and the money is luring more grey matters into the coaching rank, even at the HS level.
More kids have the chance to play football, and they are getting faster and stronger all the time.
Get more young guys in; look for that diamond in the rough.
Spend more resources on scouting and teaching as the dollar is not limited to a cap.

Let the wannabes overspend on the FA market.
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I'd rather trade down for the long term.
There are more college teams now; the sport is getting so big that the smaller schools can afford to field teams and hire coaches.
The teaching techniques are getting better and better and the money is luring more grey matters into the coaching rank, even at the HS level.
More kids have the chance to play football, and they are getting faster and stronger all the time.
Get more young guys in; look for that diamond in the rough.
Spend more resources on scouting and teaching as the dollar is not limited to a cap.

Let the wannabes overspend on the FA market.
I agree. We say it every year almost, but the Texans need to trade down if possible and if they get the right value to do so.
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Too expensive to move up more than maybe two spots. Texans have held breath & waited for player to drop to them rather than moving up. Too many good players in secon or third. I think trades can leave us with three seconds, a third, and a quality fourth.
I would like to see how that could happen.
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I would like to see how that could happen.

It's not that hard if you trade down from the 1st you pick up the other teams 2nd round pick and a 3rd or 4th, you still have your own 2nd rounder, and then with all the expected comp. picks we could package our own 3rd, 5th, and 6th for a quality 2nd round pick. That leaves us with three 2nd round picks, while also getting the other teams 3rd or 4th, our comp. 3rd, our own 4th, probably three comp. 6th rounders, and our 7th.
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Default Re: Who would you trade up for?

I don't think trading up in the 1st round makes any sense this year. The Texans aren't one player away and they will need the picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds to contribute in 2013. Maybe on the 3rd day, when the picks aren't as valuable, using a 5th to grab a player earlier in the 4th would be OK. Other than that, the Texans should trust their board and let the draft come to them.
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I'd rather trade down for the long term.
There are more college teams now; the sport is getting so big that the smaller schools can afford to field teams and hire coaches.
The teaching techniques are getting better and better and the money is luring more grey matters into the coaching rank, even at the HS level.
More kids have the chance to play football, and they are getting faster and stronger all the time.
Get more young guys in; look for that diamond in the rough.
Spend more resources on scouting and teaching as the dollar is not limited to a cap.

Let the wannabes overspend on the FA market.
Agreed on trading down.

The Texans have so many holes if they want to be a SB contender next yrs they need to hit on a couple of players in FA.
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Agreed on trading down.

The Texans have so many holes if they want to be a SB contender next yrs they need to hit on a couple of players in FA.
They've won their division two years in a row, it only seems like they're so many holes because how season ended. I just think they peaked too early, got big headed, full of themselves and lost all momentum coupled with key injury to Cushing & no depth @ position to cover.

Look at it this way. If your a good draftnick confident in your ability to pull starter material 1st 2nd & 3rd rounds picking as planned your going to be ahead of the game ie other teams because your always pulling bpa off the board, why take a chance & let someone else deprive you of a better prospect just for sake of stock piling more picks? Since Texans will finally net some decent comp picks, they will more likely move up with regular slots to really get players high on their draft board, not trade back.
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Terrance will be available #27 so Texans can stand pat & still select him, Bro
He could be available in the second round.
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They've won their division two years in a row, it only seems like they're so many holes because how season ended. I just think they peaked too early, got big headed, full of themselves and lost all momentum coupled with key injury to Cushing & no depth @ position to cover.

Look at it this way. If your a good draftnick confident in your ability to pull starter material 1st 2nd & 3rd rounds picking as planned your going to be ahead of the game ie other teams because your always pulling bpa off the board, why take a chance & let someone else deprive you of a better prospect just for sake of stock piling more picks? Since Texans will finally net some decent comp picks, they will more likely move up with regular slots to really get players high on their draft board, not trade back.
Yep

You should be able to get 1 star level player, and atleast 2 above avg starters out of each draft. This is why I'm almost always in favor of making the picks you have in rds 1-3. Then trying to use picks in rds 4-7 to move back into the 3rd rd, so that you have 4 chances to pick 3 difference makers. It increases your odds.

Rick appears to have a different philosophy, he's a trade down guy and accumulate later rd picks guy. Trying to increase his odds of getting a differencemaker in Rds 4-7.

Which philosphy do you prefer and how well do you think Rick has done executing his philosophy? Remember for every Quin, there's a Sharpton-Hill type pick.
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Default Re: Who would you trade up for?

In this draft I'd rather have two high seconds, our own second and our comp third rather than our first, second and two thirds. We still have too many need positions to go true BPA & it will only get worse if Barwin leaves as I predicted long ago. Does anyone think Wade will try to refill that spot with round four or later?
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knowing that 33% of his passes were completed behind the los doesn't make you go hmmmmm?

Trading up is when you are getting what you perceive as a sure bet. Trading away picks on a gamble is foolish. Smith would not be taken in the first round last year I'd bet. This doesn't strike me as the kind of draft class one would want to trade up in unless desperate.
Actually it was 26%. His physical tools and iq is why I do it. As I stated before, he doesn't have to play this yr either. He can make all the throws and is very accurate down the field. He's also a good leader from what's been said.
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After watching more tape on Ansah I would consider moving up a few spots for him if he fell. Could be a rotation OLB right now and eventually could take A Smiths place on the D Line.
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Nobody.

We're gonna need a S, a WR or two, a TE, an OT, ILB, NT, maybe OG.... and counting.
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If I was forced to pick, Jarvis Jones.

I'm not really for trading down unless there's just not a spot of need and the talent level drops off dramatically. I know this draft is fairly deep, but I'm nervous about dropping back. The Texans really are going to have to lean on the draft this year for production and I want the best talent even if that means a slight reach.
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Seems to me there will be good enough talents left in the 2nd rd for WR, NT and other positions so if we were to move in the 1st rd, we should trade down instead of trading up to obtain an extra pick or two as we may be losing some key players on FA and need to fill some needing positions besides WR and NT positions.

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