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Old 03-12-2013   #41
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Which is confusing to me.

Why now? This could have been done three months ago, giving Kevin more time to find a team before FA.

Why not restructure? Surely Walter doesn't believe he'll make equivalent money elsewhere.

I know that I don't know, but the way the Texans conduct business just seems awkward to me.
Three questions:

1. How would it have been better for the Texans if he'd been cut three months ago, or two months ago, or two weeks ago?

2. How much do you really think Kevin Walter would have benefitted had the above happened? It's not like he's missing out on any of the free agency period as defined by the start of the new league year, and it's also doubtful that any team(s) would have been beating a path to his door sign him if he had been available. Cutting him the night before opening day, I can see the issue - cutting him the first day of the new league year doesn't seem unfair at all (if being fair even matters).

3. In what way is it "awkward"? There's been a steady stream of NFL players getting cut over the last few days, including others being cut today (Antoine Winfield for one). There will also very likely be cuts over the next few days. It doesn't seem awkward at all to me - it just seems like the way much if not most of the NFL conducts business.
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Walter did his job up until midway last year and the wheels fell off the whole cart . Last year was supposed to be the Texans year and now they're scrambling to put the pieces back together .

This is made a bunch more difficult when you don't have the likes of Brady , Brees , Manning or Rogers .
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Walter was in the twilight of his carear, so this isn't surprising. I wish the guy nothing but good luck in his future. We have some good memories of his performances here.
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It's a good move. I'm all for celebrating when the organization makes good decisions like they have done here. However, it should be remembered, that Kevin Walter was a heck of a player for the Texans. He was always on the field. Never created problems. Made many big catches and did all the little things (like blocking) to help this team win.

It was frustrating watching the wide receiving corp struggle to get open and create separation the past two seasons, but he was never paid to be the guy that stretches the field. He always did his job and did it well.

Thank you, Kevin Walter, for the past six years.
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Thank you for the memories!! We loved you and wish you well!!

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Thanks for the memories Kevin. I'll always remember that Playoff clinching catch you made 2 seasons ago against the Bengals, and that monster game you had against the Jags couple years ago.
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Walter will be missed in the run game, but it was clear that what little he offered in the pass game was dwindling. I'm not sure if I want him back unless it's at the vet min and even then I might favor the young guys.

Good locker room guy, did everything asked, squeezed all his talent out on the field, but he was somewhat limited athletically. Good guy, and I'll miss seeing him out there, but the timing was right for this.
Agree with the above. Respected him for how he played and the kind of pro he was. I wish him well also.

OTOH, not surprised either.
Here's hoping Posey makes a full recovery. I think he's the heir apparent, not Jean or any of the others.

Wonder if this means less of a "run-first" mantra from the offensive brain trust.
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I like Kevin Walter. Teams need guys like that. I have never had a problem with Kevin Walter. What I have had a problem with is the coaching staff putting him in a position that he was never really suited for. What I have a problem with is how he has been a #3/#4 level receiver, paid like a #2/#3 level receiver, and yet the team is still worse without him, as of this moment. Maybe they have a plan to replace him, but I sure haven't grown to trust their decisions at WR.

Good luck, Kevin Walter.
I agree with this. Walter's not a terrible receiver. He's got great hands, and I rarely ever see him drop a pass.

But like you said, he's a #4/#3 (at best), and he's getting paid like a #2, and playing as our #2. That's where the problem is. No, our WRs are not better without him, but cutting him gives us more cap space to pursue other options at WR that may upgrade our #2 position.
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2. How much do you really think Kevin Walter would have benefitted had the above happened? It's not like he's missing out on any of the free agency period as defined by the start of the new league year, and it's also doubtful that any team(s) would have been beating a path to his door sign him if he had been available. Cutting him the night before opening day, I can see the issue - cutting him the first day of the new league year doesn't seem unfair at all (if being fair even matters).
If he had been cut, then he could have signed with another team whenever. However, I doubt another team really would have spent a dime on him before they saw what else was available. Plus, it's a very deep WR draft. I would imagine most teams would look at a mid-round rookie receiver as a better alternative to Walter.
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Good move. We were paying him too much for what he provided to the team.
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Thanks for the years, KW!

Hopefully we can find another no. 2 WR that can catch floppy passes thrown to where he was in his route a second before. Dude could stop mid-route and make catches behind himself as good as anyone on the team. He was also pretty good at making catches that appeared to be thrown at his feet.
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Some dude on twitter named TexSportsReview saying Michael Crabtree to the Texans.

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It's a good move. I'm all for celebrating when the organization makes good decisions like they have done here. However, it should be remembered, that Kevin Walter was a heck of a player for the Texans. He was always on the field. Never created problems. Made many big catches and did all the little things (like blocking) to help this team win.

It was frustrating watching the wide receiving corp struggle to get open and create separation the past two seasons, but he was never paid to be the guy that stretches the field. He always did his job and did it well.

Thank you, Kevin Walter, for the past six years.
Classy and sums up my feelings about it to the T...It was time for both parties to move on, but i won't celebrate. The guy did everything we asked of him to the best of his abilities.
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If he had been cut, then he could have signed with another team whenever. However, I doubt another team really would have spent a dime on him before they saw what else was available. Plus, it's a very deep WR draft. I would imagine most teams would look at a mid-round rookie receiver as a better alternative to Walter.
I'm aware that anybody could have signed him (and pretty much said what you did about lack of interest in doing that).

The point is, there's only two real problems that can result in terms of the timing of cutting someone. The first is if roster's have already been set, as in the night before the season example. The second is if teams have already spent most/all of their free agent budget, and there's nothing left. This is where the free agency period starting today comes in - none of that money has been spent (although not to beat a dead horse, but given the salary expectations I think are realistic for Walter, that will likely never be much of an issue for him anyway).

As has been brought up earlier in this thread, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Walter back with the Texans at veteran minimum salary, and only a $600,000 (give or take) salary cap hit.
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Thanks for the memories Kevin. I'll always remember that Playoff clinching catch you made 2 seasons ago against the Bengals, and that monster game you had against the Jags couple years ago.
The guy always has been clutch. I'm genuinely sorry to see him go. :/
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Some dude on twitter named TexSportsReview saying Michael Crabtree to the Texans.

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That deal doesn't make sense for San Fran.
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That deal doesn't make sense for San Fran.
I know but Crabtree next to AJ would be HUGE.

Crabtree and AJ > Roddy White and Julio Jones
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I know but Crabtree next to AJ would be HUGE.

Crabtree and AJ > Roddy White and Julio Jones
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I know but Crabtree next to AJ would be HUGE.

Crabtree and AJ > Roddy White and Julio Jones
I would absolutely love it if it were true, but Manningham is coming off of a major injury, and so is Kyle Williams. Doubt they would wanna part with their only reliable receiver on the team last year.
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As has been brought up earlier in this thread, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Walter back with the Texans at veteran minimum salary, and only a $600,000 (give or take) salary cap hit.
And THAT, my friend, is likely to be our "big splash" in Free Agency!
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They did sign Anquan Boldin.
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