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Old 03-07-2013   #21
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I wonder if there's a trend like this with other teams as well? Every team plays one Thursday game a year, but I wonder if those that had a Thursday game late in the season suffered more injuries than those who had it earlier? None of them played two OT games in a row though. May try to do some research on this topic this weekend if I have the chance.
Roger Goodell was recently asked about the injury effects of Thursday games. He said it wasn't a problem.

So no need to look into it because the Rog says it is so.
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The problem with Schaub IMO is simple. When the run game is shut down he can not succeed. He may pull one out occasionally but at the end of the day, if Foster isn't carrying this team Schaub folds like a cheap lawn chair.
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The problem with Schaub IMO is simple. When the run game is shut down he can not succeed. He may pull one out occasionally but at the end of the day, if Foster isn't carrying this team Schaub folds like a cheap lawn chair.
Then they need to get Foster involved in the passing game.
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Then they need to get Foster involved in the passing game.
I agree, the lack of production in that area was disgusting this season. IDK why Gary felt the need to increase his run shares and decrease his passes.....
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The problem with Schaub IMO is simple. When the run game is shut down he can not succeed. He may pull one out occasionally but at the end of the day, if Foster isn't carrying this team Schaub folds like a cheap lawn chair.
Yeah that must be why he was the league's leading passer when the Texans had no rushing game.
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Roger Goodell was recently asked about the injury effects of Thursday games. He said it wasn't a problem.

So no need to look into it because the Rog says it is so.
That's my number 1 problem with the esteemed Commissioner: If he says something is so, it is Gospel truth and that's that.

Does he not see the hypocrisy of citing his #1 priority is player safety....but he wants to do away with some preseason games if it means adding two more reg season games (two more chances for guys who are playing all-out to get hurt)?

So it's no shock that he thinks Thursday games don't pose a problem.

It's not like he's going to do away with a revenue stream named Thursday Night Football.

This league is worrying me. There's some buzz about maybe doing away with kickoffs after scores and resorting to giving the scoring team a 4th down play or punt the ball. LOL. If they do away with kickoffs, just do away with kickers altogether and make it a forced 2-pt conversion after each score. Then, the other team gets the ball on their own 20. Simple solution. But giving the scoring team the option to have the ball after having just scored??? Insane.

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Roger Goodell was recently asked about the injury effects of Thursday games. He said it wasn't a problem.

So no need to look into it because the Rog says it is so.
The rule changes?......they're all about putting up a facade defense against lawsuits...........it has nothing to do with sincerely wanting to prevent player injuries........for the players' sake. If a player is saved an injury........that's just gravy.
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Yeah that must be why he was the league's leading passer when the Texans had no rushing game.
Times change, teams no our bread and butter. And sorry to burst your bubble, we were still an above average run team when we had Slaton.
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Times change, teams no our bread and butter. And sorry to burst your bubble, we were still an above average run team when we had Slaton.
LOL - hard to burst my bubble when you don't have a clue. We were 30th in the league in rushing. Slaton averaged 3.3 ypc and didn't even have 450 yards on the season. Now work your magic on spinning that into above average.
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LOL - hard to burst my bubble when you don't have a clue. We were 30th in the league in rushing. Slaton averaged 3.3 ypc and didn't even have 450 yards on the season. Now work your magic on spinning that into above average.
Yeah, look at the first chart on my Schaub post that shows Kubiak offense. The pre-2010 run numbers were so bleak. So bleak in fact, they actually drafted skill position RB high with Tate. /didn't really pan out yet, but showed some urgency. //think improvement on run is partially due to Dennison because he made that his #1 priority when he came to the team.

Basically, Schaub's best QB years were wasted to when the Texans had no consistent running game and terrible, terrible defenses.
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The rule changes?......they're all about putting up a facade defense against lawsuits...........it has nothing to do with sincerely wanting to prevent player injuries........for the players' sake. If a player is saved an injury........that's just gravy.
Partially agree here.

I think he has a bit of a savior complex. If he becomes the commissioner who is remembered for saving the health of NFL players, going against the grain of most fans' desire to let the game stay edgy, he solidifies himself as a pioneer.

A person obsessed with "legacy" will do anything to get there. It is my opinion that he is, as you say, "Putting up a legal strategy," but I also think he really thinks this is his ticket to hero status.

So he's compelled to do it AND he wants to do it. A dangerous combination. Then he extends this line of thinking to other areas: His obscene "player fines and suspension" system, the toying with the concept if kickoff changes, the idea of more reg season games, on and on....

And just last year I thought people were being overly harsh in regards to their criticism of him. I've come around.
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Then they need to get Foster involved in the passing game.
The efficiency numbers on his catches have gone down. Had some drops but not way out of line.

Part of that is teams focusing on stopping him I think. In 2009, running game/runner as pass catcher really wasn't the most credible threat.

2010 was a revelation to teams for the Texans to go to one of the worst running teams to one of the most dominant. So then teams adjust to that.

Don't know if his finger was bothering him any with catches either. Was a little oof seeing him pop his finger back in mid-season.
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Yeah that must be why he was the league's leading passer when the Texans had no rushing game.
Also worth noting is the YPA numbers. Some people think, maybe given this season, that Schaub has been all dink and dunk. As the 2nd chart shows, Schaub has been in the top 6 QBs in the NFL in YPA for all of his career EXCEPT last year where he was 10th, and the last month number was super low.

And that includes some years where Andre Johnson was hurt, and they were depending on WRs that aren't particularly household names.

Lots of factors could go into that 2012 number, but I think it is a mistake to think of 2012, especially the end of 2012 as Same Old Schaub because really the 2012 numbers are sort of weird.
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Yeah that must be why he was the league's leading passer when the Texans had no rushing game.
We try to avoid letting facts get in the way of a good argument around here. Get with the program, man!
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Bottom line: is Schaub a guy that can come up clutch in the playoffs and WIN a SB?

My answer is no, his best yrs are behind him. Others think differently, time will tell.
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The efficiency numbers on his catches have gone down. Had some drops but not way out of line.

Part of that is teams focusing on stopping him I think. In 2009, running game/runner as pass catcher really wasn't the most credible threat.

2010 was a revelation to teams for the Texans to go to one of the worst running teams to one of the most dominant. So then teams adjust to that.

Don't know if his finger was bothering him any with catches either. Was a little oof seeing him pop his finger back in mid-season.
Sometimes ago, I took a "not-so-in-depth" study on ball distribution, and I found that it's rather consistent through the years - if you take into account the health of AJ.

Basically, we all know that Kubiak likes to balance the running game with the passing game. When the Texans get behind in the second half, they open it up more; when they are up, they run more. That's par for the course with most teams.

In the passing game; it's AJ first, without forcing it too much.
If AJ is out, the load is spread somewhat evenly.

The TEs group, the other receivers, the guys out of the backfield all get their share.

It just so happened that the opponents went to sleep on Foster here and there, and with Casey also out for a good period of time, that he saw more balls.

This year, Foster was targeted 22 times fewer.
Basically, that's only about 1.375 per game.
With AJ and Casey healthy; I don't see anything wrong with it.
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The rule changes?......they're all about putting up a facade defense against lawsuits...........it has nothing to do with sincerely wanting to prevent player injuries........for the players' sake. If a player is saved an injury........that's just gravy.
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The rule changes?......they're all about putting up a facade defense against lawsuits...........it has nothing to do with sincerely wanting to prevent player injuries........for the players' sake. If a player is saved an injury........that's just gravy.
It's not like we want a safer game, not like we care about their long term health. NoFunLeague & "might as well make it flag football"

That tells you how much we care.

Goodell & the former players are playing with us to get what they want.
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Bottom line: is Schaub a guy that can come up clutch in the playoffs and WIN a SB?

My answer is no, his best yrs are behind him. Others think differently, time will tell.
Just 9 weeks ago most people said the same thing about Flacco.
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