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Old 03-06-2013   #1
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Default eric winston to be released

Ill be the first to say it bring him in for a looksee. Lets get arian back to form . We all like the caveman

If hes injured nevermind though

Sidenote-poor Luke joeckel gonna waste his talents in kc what a shame

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Default Re: eric winston to be released

We have cap problems of our own so unless he is willing to play for not much more than Newton makes no way do I want him here.


Nevermind, they actually saved cap space. But only 700K and they are down a starting O-Line starter so unless they fill that with a guy making 700K or less they will have less cap space. Still don't want him.
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Well, they now have $700K to find his replacement.

Just wonder what his new price tag is going to be now that he has some pocket money already.
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Well, they now have $700K to find his replacement.

Just wonder what his new price tag is going to be now that he has some pocket money already.
His agent is Drew Rosenhaus, so I wouldn't count on anything beyond going to the highest bidder.
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Bring 'em back!
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Default Eric Winston released by Chiefs

I wonder if we make an inquiry to his agent.
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Default Re: eric winston to be released

Overrated

But still better than Newton/Harris.

Setting up himself for a career in the media seems to be more important to Winston than improving his craft.
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I wonder if we make an inquiry to his agent.
I hope so.
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Default Chiefs Release Eric Winston

What's in store for Eric Winston now?
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Default Re: Eric Winston released by Chiefs

Looks like Smith & Kubiak knew what they were doing last year, makes them look a lot smarter now with the move to cut Winston a year ago.
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Default Re: Eric Winston released by Chiefs

Conflicted on this one.

His run blocking was better than anything we had on the right side in 2012.

But one has to wonder if he's thrown in the towel and is ready to pick up the microphone for a new career pursuit.

Then there's that whole messy "You cut me last year, Rick and Gary..." thing going on. With a splash of Drew HoseYourAss who is commanding the highest dollar on anything he represents. So....yeah, not much to see here. IMO.
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Overrated

But still better than Newton/Harris.

Setting up himself for a career in the media seems to be more important to Winston than improving his craft.
Overrated? Well, overpaid (is that the same thing?). Still better than what the Texans currently have a RT. And I don't see Winston's aspirations getting in the way of his on field performance. He's just what he is - an average RT that's a better run than pass blocker.

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Looks like Smith & Kubiak knew what they were doing last year, makes them look a lot smarter now with the move to cut Winston a year ago.
I don't think cutting Winston was about being smart. They had to make cuts somewhere and thought Butler & Newton could handle the job. They were wrong. But, they had little choice but to cut him loose.
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Wouldn't hurt to kick the tires on this one.
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Default Re: Eric Winston released by Chiefs

1 year with the chiefs and he got cut, his market value just hit the floor. unless we're planning on spending a first or second on offensive tackle (which i'd prefer), i'd most certainly try to bring him back. winston is what he is - a below average pass blocker but a heck of a run blocker who fits very will into our system. his pass pro is better than anyone else we could currently start at RT however, and somehow is solid in comparison to most RT's.

being unable to run consistently to the right side, the supposed strong side, was a huge hindrance late in the season. winston instantly improves that without any time needed to "gel". if we can get him at a hometown discount, rick smith should jump on it - again unless we plan on drafting the position.
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Overrated? Well, overpaid (is that the same thing?). Still better than what the Texans currently have a RT. And I don't see Winston's aspirations getting in the way of his on field performance. He's just what he is - an average RT that's a better run than pass blocker.


I don't think cutting Winston was about being smart. They had to make cuts somewhere and thought Butler & Newton could handle the job. They were wrong. But, they had little choice but to cut him loose.
You mean two Wongs don't make one Wight?
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1 year with the chiefs and he got cut, his market value just hit the floor. unless we're planning on spending a first or second on offensive tackle (which i'd prefer), i'd most certainly try to bring him back. winston is what he is - a below average pass blocker but a heck of a run blocker who fits very will into our system. his pass pro is better than anyone else we could currently start at RT however, and somehow is solid in comparison to most RT's.

being unable to run consistently to the right side, the supposed strong side, was a huge hindrance late in the season. winston instantly improves that without any time needed to "gel". if we can get him at a hometown discount, rick smith should jump on it - again unless we plan on drafting the position.
I don't know how much pressure Winston gave up, but the combo of Harris and Newton combined to allow the same number of sacks as Winston (but with one fewer penalty.) That with Newton playing hurt or less than 100% for awhile and Winston was averaging 7.5 sacks allowed the previous two years.

The only thing we can say for sure is that Winston was the better run blocker; but Newton and Harris didn't have much time to gel with the rest of the O-line, which never had continuity to start with - having 3 different guys playing at RG.

We don't know if Newton will improve enough next year, but we can't rule that out either.

I don't think the Texans can afford more than a couple of mils for a FA; but who knows, maybe they will surprise us ?!?
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Conflicted on this one.

His run blocking was better than anything we had on the right side in 2012.

But one has to wonder if he's thrown in the towel and is ready to pick up the microphone for a new career pursuit.

Then there's that whole messy "You cut me last year, Rick and Gary..." thing going on. With a splash of Drew HoseYourAss who is commanding the highest dollar on anything he represents. So....yeah, not much to see here. IMO.
I'm with you. I think he's worth a look but not if Drew whatshisname wants top dollar.
Wonder what sort of inquires he'll get from other teams...
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