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Old 03-04-2013   #21
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I would like to keep Quin but where do you get all this leadership stuff from?
Jonathan Joseph has made comments several times in regards to Quin's natural leadership ability. Early on he spoke about encouraging Quin to embrace his natural ability to be a leader. He and another Texan, maybe Manning, spoke about it again last year. I would have to look up the quotes, but they are somewhere for sure.

Here is an article after the season was over where JJ stressed the need to retain Quin: http://www.csnhouston.com/football-h...s-pats-not-big

I'll find some old quotes today.
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Seems you are quick to judge on Mercilus & Barwin. I can't say what either one are completely capable of, but I do know Barwin has registered double digit sacks & registered 4.5, which was half the total of the gentle giants sack total that season, in very limited action as a rookie. Barwin had a down year & didn't earn a big pay day by his own doing, but he has shown potential & has already accomplished double digit sacks which you stated he wasn't capable of...obviously that was wrong.
I don't see how one could be happy with Barwin & not happy with Mario. Even before the $100M pay day. If Mario had a season like Barwin had in 2012, it would be straight for the chopping block.

I don't think Barwin is a double digit sack guy. I think Wade's system got Barwin double digit sacks. Had he been a true double digit guy, I believe he would have been approaching 1 sack per game kind of numbers; partially due to natural ability, partially due to the system. You take a 5-6 sack/year guy & put him at WOLB he should get you about 11 sacks (& all the pressures & hurries that go along with them). You take a 10 sack guy in Wade's system at WOLB, you should have a 16+ sack season. To get 11 & then follow it up with 4-5.... when he was healthy all year, he's not the pass rusher we need. But you're right, it's only been 4 years. He's got great potential.

I'd like to see him on the strong side & get me those 5-6 sacks from there. With Watt, Antonio, and a true menace on the weakside, maybe we'll get 8 sacks from him.


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Mercilus has only had his rookie season & it would've been an uphill battle for him to supplant Reed or Barwin. When he did get in he had some success. I thinks it's a bit premature to assume he isn't capable of holding down an OLB position as starter based on part time duty as a rookie. He's a 2nd yr player now & young players have proven they can produce early in their careers. I'm not quite ready to cast Mercilus off after one season. A rookie could be brought in to start opposite of Mercilus or next to Cushing. I honestly believe LB could be the 1st pick & will possibly be the best available if he is capable of starting at olb or ILB.
I'm not assuming Mercilus can't be the guy we need at WOLB. I just don't want to put all our eggs in that one basket. I'd start him at WOLB, then I'd get a pass rushing specialist to back him up, could be Braman, could be a 4th or later pick, could be an UDFA, could be a street FA.
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I'm not assuming Mercilus can't be the guy we need at WOLB.
I thought Mercilus was pretty effective when he saw snaps as a rookie. I'm more excited about his development than any pass rusher we have drafted since Mario, maybe more than Mario because he is not that expensive.
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Jonathan Joseph has made comments several times in regards to Quin's natural leadership ability. Early on he spoke about encouraging Quin to embrace his natural ability to be a leader. He and another Texan, maybe Manning, spoke about it again last year. I would have to look up the quotes, but they are somewhere for sure.

Here is an article after the season was over where JJ stressed the need to retain Quin: http://www.csnhouston.com/football-h...s-pats-not-big

I'll find some old quotes today.
Don't spend too much time on it. I take those kinds of quotes as JJo and Manning being leaders and trying to develop Quin into one rather than they already are looking to him for leadership. JJo is the sideline leader (by observation) for the DB's. Locker room I won't pretend to know.
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Don't spend too much time on it. I take those kinds of quotes as JJo and Manning being leaders and trying to develop Quin into one rather than they already are looking to him for leadership. JJo is the sideline leader (by observation) for the DB's. Locker room I won't pretend to know.
Yea, it gave you the impression that they see potential in him in that role as a young player.
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I thought Mercilus was pretty effective when he saw snaps as a rookie. I'm more excited about his development than any pass rusher we have drafted since Mario, maybe more than Mario because he is not that expensive.
I'm high on Merci

But second year players don't always have monster seasons like Watt did. It's important that we get pressure from the edge. Too important to go with only Mercilus as our potential outside pass rusher.
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I think Quin has high, high value.
Just curious as to which safeties people rank above Quin. Personally, I think he ranks very highly, but can't honestly say I know who I'd put ahead of or behind him. So I'm curious what people's thoughts are. I know that Quin in this system is different from some of the other top safeties would be in this system.
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Those players lost last season obviously meant more to the team then many believed & we learned that the hard way as those positions struggled & now many feel they are needs. I understand that Winston & Ryans were let go because of salary cap issues, but once again those issues were Smith's doing & are still hurting this team w/ the loss of key players & the potential loss of more.

I hope you are right concerning Quin & how Smith views & values him, but I truly have my doubts in what Smith is capable of. Time will tell...
Injuries hurt us, not the loss of Ryans at the ILB position. As far as Winston he was a better run blocker, but think we broke even on the pass blocking. Longer term we'll be ok without that much tied up into a RT position.
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Just curious as to which safeties people rank above Quin. Personally, I think he ranks very highly, but can't honestly say I know who I'd put ahead of or behind him. So I'm curious what people's thoughts are. I know that Quin in this system is different from some of the other top safeties would be in this system.
I'm sorry while Quin is an ok safety he's not like it's top 5 in the league, we just haven't had good safety play in a long time noone remembers what it looks like.

Ed Reed
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I'm sorry while Quin is an ok safety he's not like it's top 5 in the league, we just haven't had good safety play in a long time noone remembers what it looks like.

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In addition to that, I'd include Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas of the Seahawks. They've been playing lights out defense, and they haven't been getting any recognition.

Eric Berry is a great safety, Goldson of the 49ers (don't know his first name).
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Just curious as to which safeties people rank above Quin. Personally, I think he ranks very highly, but can't honestly say I know who I'd put ahead of or behind him. So I'm curious what people's thoughts are. I know that Quin in this system is different from some of the other top safeties would be in this system.
I would say Eric Berry, Earl Thomas, Dashon Goldson, Eric Weddle, and Troy Polamalu all rank ahead of Quin in terms of value. I don't think Quin is a top 5 safety right now but he one of the best of the rest and still is young, with alot of football left it would seem.
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There are a lot of holes on this team if we let these 2 walk. They are replaceable players, but its tough to replace them and fix other areas all in one off-season.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...-would-be-nice

looks like Barwin wants to test the open market.
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looks like Barwin wants to test the open market.
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looks like Barwin wants to test the open market.
When Barwin was in the draft, the Patriots were very interested in him. It wouldn't be surprising to see them pick him up.
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Injuries hurt us, not the loss of Ryans at the ILB position. As far as Winston he was a better run blocker, but think we broke even on the pass blocking. Longer term we'll be ok without that much tied up into a RT position.
Injuries are part of the game & every team deals w/ them. Weak excuse, but so be it. If you think this team wouldn't have been better off w/ Ryans manning the middle w/ whomever else was available as opposed to James manning the middle w/ the fillers...well I question your judgement. Ryans next to Cushing was the better option & Ryans manning the middle when Cushing went down would've been a much better option then what we dealt with. Plain & simple. James was hardly an adequate replacement for Ryans & ultimately losing Ryans made that position weaker & area of need.

Winston was better then Newton & Butler. Once again, denying that fact would call your judgement into question. Newton is still young & could develop into a good player, but he had his issues & was not on Winston's level. When you consider that Winston's salary was in the same range that Briesel & Myers are earning then he wasn't exactly breaking the bank. It seemed he was getting paid a fair amount.
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Just curious as to which safeties people rank above Quin. Personally, I think he ranks very highly, but can't honestly say I know who I'd put ahead of or behind him. So I'm curious what people's thoughts are. I know that Quin in this system is different from some of the other top safeties would be in this system.
I could name about half the league in guys I'd prefer but he's a good player. I also mean that there is nothing wrong with being just "good". He's a slot above JAG (just a guy) and a notch below the top tier players. "Starting caliber" player but isn't a ball hawk, doesn't have elite range or instincts, but does just about everything fairly well. I consider him above average in man coverage (unless covering very speedy wrs). Decent vs the run, but I think took some bad angles last year at times.
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People keep saying that Quin isn't worth keeping and I have to go back and think about how our team was before we had quality safety play.
That's not what people said at all. They're saying, and I agree, that Quin isn't worth franchising. There's a big difference. Quin is good and we'd like him back but he's not elite at his position and not worth top 5 money/franchising.
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That's not what people said at all. They're saying, and I agree, that Quin isn't worth franchising. There's a big difference. Quin is good and we'd like him back but he's not elite at his position and not worth top 5 money/franchising.
Exactly. What would we be giving up if we allocated franchise money to Quin? Perhaps the ability to sign a F/A WR or ILB...? I don't know, I'm just wondering aloud.

And at the end of the day, it's really kinda up to Wade.
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I could name about half the league in guys I'd prefer but he's a good player. I also mean that there is nothing wrong with being just "good". He's a slot above JAG (just a guy) and a notch below the top tier players. "Starting caliber" player but isn't a ball hawk, doesn't have elite range or instincts, but does just about everything fairly well. I consider him above average in man coverage (unless covering very speedy wrs). Decent vs the run, but I think took some bad angles last year at times.
Perfectly said. I was making a list in response then realized 'Damn...this is longer than I thought'. This right here covers it perfectly. Right now it's more about what he means to the Texans than what he is compared to the other safeties so they should do what they can to bring him back but don't go overboard and put yourself in a hole for future signings/extensions. Not often you hear about safety contracts going the way of absurd though so there's that.

Unfortunately with Byrd and Wilson off the free agent listing that means Quin just moved up more and if his agent knows his business he'll tell Quin to test the market because someone will seek his services at this point.
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