Sports Talk Radio, Texans

[Bulls on Parade]

Originally Posted by False Start

I refuse to listen to that DB. I cant stand him.

My lineup:
10-12 - ND & Greg
12-3 - Matt Thomas
3-7 - Charlie & Lance

So pretty much, I don't even listen to 610, and Josh is the main reason. He turned me off from the whole station.

I used to be a frequent caller over a decade ago (late '90s) when Rich Lord and Kenny Hand had the best sports-radio show in the city. It was fun calling in every day to talk about the Astros (who were good at the time), Rockets and Cowboys - we had no NFL team during those years.

And I pretty much stayed away from sports-talk radio from 2000 to 2007. And then in 2008, I started to enjoy the David Nuno show on 1560 The Game. And some of the other guys working there all did a great job.

I have not really called into a local sports show since 2008 though. I'm in my early 30's already and sports is just not what it used to be for me. Before I thought it was the most important thing in life, but I guess having a family and becoming a born-again Christian will change a man's way of thinking.

[Texans_Chick]

Originally Posted by Rey

I like Josh...

I was actually listening when he talked about you, and I actually agreed with his take.

That's nothing against you or anything you write. But on this topic, I agreed with him.

Most people that listen to sports radio listen for maybe 30 mins...maybe an hour at a time I would guess...

There are a lot of people that listen all day though...or for hours at a time...like me...

I hear more than enough sports talk...Texans talk...Rockets talk throughout the day...I listen to the radio as I get ready every morning...I listen on my way to work....I listen at work most of the day...I listen on my way home...I listen as I work out in my garage...

Everyday doesn't go like that (I do like music)...but some days go exactly like that.

I would not listen that long if all they did was talk about sports. The reason I listen is because of the variety of topics and conversations that occur. Plus, like you said, Texanstalk has a wealth of information on the Texans. How much can you talk about the Texans WR situation during the day? The cap space has not changed...nothing has happened draft wise...There's nothing going on right now Texans wise....I love the Rockets, but I normally listen to 790 for my Rockets fix...

I can understand people that tune in when they get into their car or turn on the radio at any given time....But you have to realize that this is an all day thing...they are talking when you aren't listening...

As far as the creeper radio thing....whatever I guess. Howard Stern is much worse, but if that's not your thing I'd say don't listen. I don't find what Josh does disgusting at all. Yeah, it's a little more "shock jock" than what you get from any other radio host, but I think it's funny. I realize it's not for everyone, but I don't consider myself the "lowest denominator" anymore than someone that doesn't like it considers themselves an uptight prude.

My suggestion would be if you don't like it, don't listen. That's the most powerful thing you can do.

I listen to sports talk just about every time I'm in the car.

Agree with his take? His take was INACCURATE, DISINGENUOUS, or and by the way, also completely dismissive of me which I guess he is entitled to do because that's just his opinion, man.

But do you get that he completely made up what I said?! Completely. Made up a strawman. A fabrication. And put it on the radio for all of Houston to hear because I guess it is totally ok to make up **** if you are entertaining the masses.

Completely invented that I attacked Seth and Mike. (I put all the tweets in my blog post so people could see how bad JI's fabrication was. You can tell its a fabrication because I repeatedly, explicitly said I had no problem with the Upton interview and no problem specifically with Seth and Mike).

I did not say I had a problem with a Kate Upton interview. I did not say I had a problem with Mad Radio. I have ZERO problem with hosts talking about things other than sports. I have ZERO problem with hosts talking about women or sex stuff in a way that is not creepy crawly and sexist.

He cowardly made up a story because he was teh sad that I talked about some radio as being creeper radio.

But just as some people would feel outraged with sports talk that was relentlessly racist, I don't like sports talk that is mean and sexist. And yeah, I don't listen to JI regularly, and would have not heard his long, boring, mean, sexist recap of the Upton interview but for the fact that someone said that JI said stuff about me (which I learned when I heard the interview was inaccurate).

And yeah, I change the channel. Fortunately, there are now better options. But it totally sucks because I write about the Texans and so much Texans content is on that blasted channel because official sponsor. Really, the only hopeful thing that has happened lately on 610 is the addition of Seth Payne. Who is VERY funny. And who is very knowledgeable about football and the Texans in particular. Who actually was at training camp on a regular basis.

So in sum, in this very small interaction with him, JI was 1. a big fat liar; 2. picked a fight with me so that he could denigrate me and my blog (whatev dude); 3. and then did an entire stupid bit that was boring and sexist and mean.

If he lies about something as stupid as this, why should anyone have any use for him at all as a radio personality other than just trainwreckness? My limited interaction with him was repulsive in every respect, and it sickens me that he lied about what I said (about people who I like) for a stupid, awful radio bit.

But hey, if he works for you, go for it.

[badboy]

Steph, I have listened to talk radio since the days of Anita Martini & programming has deteriorated. It has gone to "entertainment" rather than sports talk. The devolving (if that is a word) is what I call bathroom humor; many think it humorous, but not me. John McClain's side trips into movies moved me down the dial. It reminds me of turning into a news station about 9-11 and the towers then watching talking heads pop jokes & having to watch some "celebrity" tell me what she/he thinks. I want info and debate on sports not Inness crap. I now work from my home which should increase my sports radio time over and above the hour drive to and from work I use to have. Not so. I have tried to listen to Rich Lord as I do have some respect for him, but then Josh I. and his ego came along. Not too long ago, I turned on 610 and heard Innes spouting about how he and Lord had done historical programming and blah, blah, blah. I almost called in but controlled my emotions. He just does not seem to understand that 610's ratings have more to do with Texans' contract than his "brilliance." IMO, Josh Innes is the worst talking head on the radio. Reminds me of a little girl in her first dress running around screaming "look at me everybody. Look at me!"

[IDEXAN]

Originally Posted by False Start

I refuse to listen to that DB. I cant stand him.

My lineup:
10-12 - ND & Greg
12-3 - Matt Thomas
3-7 - Charlie & Lance

So pretty much, I don't even listen to 610, and Josh is the main reason. He turned me off from the whole station.

Thanks to podcasts those of us who are far away from Houston at times still get to hear the broadcasts and "In The Trenches" is definitely my favorite because it so emphasizes Football, NFL football, and especially Texans' Football.
Now Lance is very knowledgeable about football for someone who's not played the game, but in other areas I sorta feel that he's over matched with the brainy and very articulate CP ?
Regarding Josh, the first time I heard him I thought he was a total jerk, but after hearing him another time or two I'm actually starting to find him kinda amusing ? But he's definitely off-the-wall and would turn many off very quickly.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by IDEXAN

Thanks to podcasts those of us who are far away from Houston at times still get to hear the broadcasts and "In The Trenches" is definitely my favorite because it so emphasizes Football, NFL football, and especially Texans' Football.

Have you tried streaming? If you go to the station's website, they usually have a "listen live" link & you don't have to wait for the podcasts.

Originally Posted by IDEXAN

Now Lance is very knowledgeable about football for someone who's not played the game, but in other areas I sorta feel that he's over matched with the brainy and very articulate CP ?

Lance is ok, I don't have a problem with Lance. My issue is that when he says something, people think it's gospel. I've seen a couple of his articles, where he breaks down a play & he says this should happen, or that was supposed to happen & unless he was in the film room with the team when they broke down the tape & developed their strategy, he doesn't know any more than we do.

'76 does as good a job, I think better, because he tells you there are options. A WR have so many options at their disposal, that a DB has to put himself in position to cover the worse options, or the most likely option & use team mates (LBs & other DBS), the sidelines, and such to his advantage.

While there are some that don't want to agree, '76s break down of our secondary in Kj's rookie year was much more accurate than Zeirline's & it's easy to see the step changes from then to now with '76s take. It looked like an impossibility if you followed Zierline's.

& it's the same with the OL, the DL, the LBs.... we don't know what they're supposed to do, but we can evaluate their options & understand why they chose to do what they did. Then decide if it's a talent issue, a brains issue, a scheme issue, a technique issue, a communication issue, etc... The only thing we can't fix are talent issues but you can scheme around them.

[Playoffs]

Originally Posted by Texans_Chick

...Really, the only hopeful thing that has happened lately on 610 is the addition of Seth Payne. Who is VERY funny. And who is very knowledgeable about football and the Texans in particular. Who actually was at training camp on a regular basis...

Agree, Seth is hilarious and knows what he's talking about. Hopefully the powers that be will choose more "Seth" and less "Innes" going forward. Substance keeps me listening, shtick prompts me to change stations.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by Texans_Chick

I listen to more sports talk radio than I should.

Had a small run in with Josh Innes that exposed me to some really disgraceful radio he is doing. I don't care what he thinks of me, but apparently he cares what I think of his program. I usually do not listen much to him, but if he wants a dialogue on creeper radio, this is it:

My love and hate for sports talk radio

Generally, the solutions to most talk radio is to switch the channel. But when 610 is home of the Texans, it just seems repulsive that we still have this sort of act going on in 2013.

If you have any opinions on this subject, or sports talk radio in general, I urge you to leave a comment there and share the post on FB/Twitter. I know various people at the Texans read my blog, and you never know when you can make a difference with things just by sharing a reasoned opinion on the interwebs.

Well 'duh' Steph!!

Personally, I haven't listened to 610 since John and Lance left. It got even worse after that whenever the rest of the guys left. 610 is not only a former shell of itself, it downright sucks!!

[False Start]

I wake up to sports talk, its in the truck when I'm driving, and I listen to sports talk while I'm working. On my alarm clock I listen to it at night when I lay down to go to sleep, come 12:00 AM though, its time for Coast to Coast.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by Bulls on Parade

I used to be a frequent caller over a decade ago (late '90s) when Rich Lord and Kenny Hand had the best sports-radio show in the city. It was fun calling in every day to talk about the Astros (who were good at the time), Rockets and Cowboys - we had no NFL team during those years.

And I pretty much stayed away from sports-talk radio from 2000 to 2007. And then in 2008, I started to enjoy the David Nuno show on 1560 The Game. And some of the other guys working there all did a great job.

I have not really called into a local sports show since 2008 though. I'm in my early 30's already and sports is just not what it used to be for me. Before I thought it was the most important thing in life, but I guess having a family and becoming a born-again Christian will change a man's way of thinking.

I spend a lot of my day listening to Christian radio.

[Norg]

JI i guess does not fit yall demographic hes more for he 19-26 year olds LOL

[Grams]

I listen to the occasional Mike and Mike in the morning. But have turned off all the other sports talk radio.

They seemed to just make up stuff to talk about most days. One day they would be for the Astos or Rockets, or Texans and how good they are, then the next it was the total opposite - how bad they were.

You can get all the info - and usually correct info right here. Without all the stupid, incorrect garbage that is on the radio. Plus no commercials.

I love 76's breakdowns on plays/games. After watching football for 60+ years, but not playing the game, he makes it very easy to understand the plays and who is supposed to do what - when.

And most people put some thought into what they post, unlike the callers on the radio who do not think before they open their mouth and show how stupid they really are.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Grams

They seemed to just make up stuff to talk about most days. One day they would be for the Astos or Rockets, or Texans and how good they are, then the next it was the total opposite - how bad they were.

I used to like to listen to Carl Dukes on 97.5 However, I think it was early in the 2010 season & we got off to a good start. The Cowboys got off to a bad start. He started a big deal, that the reason was because we had leaders in our locker room & Dallas didn't.

Then we proceeded to get the crap beat out of us, including a butt whooping from the Cowboys.

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by Playoffs

Agree, Seth is hilarious and knows what he's talking about. Hopefully the powers that be will choose more "Seth" and less "Innes" going forward. Substance keeps me listening, shtick prompts me to change stations.

Agree about Seth Payne. He is great on the radio and I absolutely love his dynamic with Mike Meltzer (who I also like because I identify with his geekyness.) Their show is downright fantastic and is the first show I listen to religiously on 610 since John and Lance left.

Josh Innes is utter trash. Simple as that.

[Texan_Bill]

Y'all know who is funnier than Seth Payne? His wife @brandispayne

She is awesome! Those two together are awesome!!!


Again, on twitter: @brandispayne

[disaacks3]

OK - I listened to it, and Josh "taking umbrage" at the beginning wasn't over-the-line, just radio guy sticking up for radio guy.

Then it happened...

Josh starts taking shots and doing his best to belittle Steph and her "little blog". If he'd taken the high road and just stated the he'd agree to disagree, it'd be one thing. He chose to take the standard JI path of "I can't match you, so I'll try to bring you down".

I've had disagreements with Steph over her take on certain issues over the years, but I never felt any necessity to take this route.

Why? I guess it's because I'm not trying to be a sports-radio shock jock, and I'm trying to have an informed debate. It's also because I have great respect for her. Sure, blogging about the Texans seems like a dream job to many and in some ways I'm sure it is. It also means growing a pretty thick skin. Just like politics, you're going to have a sizeable group that vehemently disagrees with what you're saying. That's fine from your average respondee on Chron.com, but it's not supposed to be acceptable from the "professional" community.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by disaacks3

OK - I listened to it, and Josh "taking umbrage" at the beginning wasn't over-the-line, just radio guy sticking up for radio guy.

Then it happened...

Josh starts taking shots and doing his best to belittle Steph and her "little blog". If he'd taken the high road and just stated the he'd agree to disagree, it'd be one thing. He chose to take the standard JI path of "I can't match you, so I'll try to bring you down".

I've had disagreements with Steph over her take on certain issues over the years, but I never felt any necessity to take this route.

Why? I guess it's because I'm not trying to be a sports-radio shock jock, and I'm trying to have an informed debate. It's also because I have great respect for her. Sure, blogging about the Texans seems like a dream job to many and in some ways I'm sure it is. It also means growing a pretty thick skin. Just like politics, you're going to have a sizeable group that vehemently disagrees with what you're saying. That's fine from your average respondee on Chron.com, but it's not supposed to be acceptable from the "professional" community.

Well there you go, getting paid for something does not make one a professional.

[chicagotexan2]

I really enjoy sports talk radio. And judging from my sense of humor most can see I don't mind silly non-sports related bs talk and sophmoric humor. But Innes is not funny. And he's not entertaining. He belongs on radio, but not on sports radio. If they have to keep him I wish they'd move him to 1:00 am to 6:00am. Yes Josh we all have heard that you have anxiety issues, that your dad did scooby doo voices, that your ex gf got a boob job and left you, that black people 'like you' blah blah blah. Yes we've heard it, over and over and over and over. This guy's schtick is to be funny, but he's simply not funny. He is just obnoxious. He's a douche bag frat boy. It sucks that Innes is on the Texans flagship station. I've tried to give him another listen but it's always the same lame try too hard to be funny morning zoo radio crap.

[Vinny]

I miss John Breen, Jerry Trupiano and Joel Buschsbaum on sportstalk 740am (740 was the Oiler flagship). Talk radio in general was more dignified and classier back then (except for Moby in the Morning of course). Josh Innes is trying to be the Rush Limbaugh of sportstalk. He's all about reaction and doesn't care how he gets it. Listening to him is LCD stuff. If you like insults, childish rants and self-absorbed humor he's probably for you.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Vinny

I miss John Breen, Jerry Trupiano and Joel Buschsbaum on sportstalk 740am (740 was the Oiler flagship).

Listened to Trup and Joel for years with their draft talk. Also would listen to Art, Anita, and Mel Kiper. My regret is that I never called in to talk with Joel and ask him a question. I don't know why I didn't. He really tapped into a interest in the draft the NFL never knew existed. Now, it's more than a cottage industry for the NFL and many internet draft gurus. They owe it all to Joel and his fans.

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by nero THE zero

Josh Innes is utter trash. Simple as that.

QFT. I cannot even begin to describe how utterly pathetic he is as a talk radio host.

I'd rather shave my head with a cheese grater while chewing aluminum foil before giving his extremely irritating voice two seconds of my time.

It's actually an insult to trash and garbage to compare it to Josh Innes.

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Y'all know who is funnier than Seth Payne? His wife @brandispayne

She is awesome! Those two together are awesome!!!


Again, on twitter: @brandispayne

Seth's unadulterated and unpolished takes are a breath of fresh air! My dad and I both dig his show, but we wonder how long it will take before management reels him in and tones him down.

Originally Posted by Vinny

I miss John Breen, Jerry Trupiano and Joel Buschsbaum on sportstalk 740am (740 was the Oiler flagship). Talk radio in general was more dignified and classier back then (except for Moby in the Morning of course). Josh Innes is trying to be the Rush Limbaugh of sportstalk. He's all about reaction and doesn't care how he gets it. Listening to him is LCD stuff. If you like insults, childish rants and self-absorbed humor he's probably for you.

Do you remember the Three Amigos sports show? Way back in the early '90's before there were dedicated sports radio stations and you had to know when sports talk shows would be aired on news radio to hear them. That was Ed Fowler, Dan Patrick, and I think Kenny Hand. It was all about sports and none of this idiotic "guy talk" and low brow Howard Stern wannabe garbage that many shows are aping these days.

I still miss Joel Buschsbaum. That dude was a football genius, and nobody has come along to replace his presence on sports radio.