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Old 02-11-2013   #41
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Watt and Cushing will likely need raises pretty soon.

Not sure they can afford a $10 mill plus contract for Harvin. If the contract numbers worked, I'd consider a 2nd for him.
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A team starved for play makers and in a playoff battle IR'ed him for a sprained ankle. Tells me a lot about what he brings. I don't care if my players are boy scouts, but I don't want a me first diva.
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A team starved for play makers and in a playoff battle IR'ed him for a sprained ankle. Tells me a lot about what he brings. I don't care if my players are boy scouts, but I don't want a me first diva.
Gotta respect Frazier & that organization for standing behind him.
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i'd pass. a 2 and 4, plus a very large impending contract for a guy who hasnt topped 1,000 yards or 6 td's, hasnt been able to get along with coaches or teammates, and struggles to play a full season. harvin certainly looks like what we need opposite andre, but between the contract and other baggage i think he costs too much.
This ^^^.

No need for GP to add more, that ^^^ is the list I would have posted.
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Default Re: Minnesota Vikings: Percy Harvin Could Be Traded

I like Harvin. But if you heard the strange interview where the Vikings were entirely evasive as to if Harvin was going to be back or not..........no explanation was made for why he might not return.

Just throwing out something to think about. In 2010, Harvin rolled his ankle.......his left ankle. This past season, he again rolled his ankle......his left ankle again. But this time it was a confirmed COMPLETE rupture of the lateral ankle ligament (not really widely publicized). Whether this injury is treated by surgery, or as it has been with Harvin with conservative treatment, studies have shown that 10 to 30% of patients have chronic symptoms, including persistent synovitis (inflammation of the ankle joint) or tendinitis, ankle stiffness, swelling, pain, muscle weakness, complaints of the ankle “giving-way,” and recurrent injury. Ongoing physical therapy programs are geared to reduce instability. However, for individuals with chronic instability refractory to conservative measures, surgery may be needed.....with further concerns listed above......on top of the additional concern of surgical complications.

It may be that the Vikings know something that they are not being totally honest about.
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Default Re: Minnesota Vikings: Percy Harvin Could Be Traded

You guys actually think there is even a slight chance that the Texans would bite on this trade? Lol!

There is no way the Texans even touch this guy. Injury prone, attitude problems, and a trade involving multiple picks for Rick to negotiate? You guys are dreaming.

Either way that is way to much money for Harvin.
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You guys actually think there is even a slight chance that the Texans would bite on this trade? Lol!

There is no way the Texans even touch this guy. Injury prone, attitude problems, and a trade involving multiple picks for Rick to negotiate? You guys are dreaming.

Either way that is way to much money for Harvin.
Bolded is not true. I think, up until this injury, he had missed like 3 games in his career. People just liked to talk about the migraines. He played in 15, 14 and 16 games his first 3 years.

I also don't get the attitude issues. As I pointed out in the stats earlier, the guy was one of the best overall players in the league for 2011 and into 2012 and did anything the team asked of him from returner, to RB to WR
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...It may be that the Vikings know something that they are not being totally honest about.
Yep, and if Harvin does have a potentially chronic ankle there's no way he plays under his current contract. His best position is to hold out for a trade with a new contract and do what he can to pass the physical.
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Default Re: Minnesota Vikings: Percy Harvin Could Be Traded

I'd rather have Mike Wallace in a Texans uni.
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Yep, and if Harvin does have a potentially chronic ankle there's no way he plays under his current contract. His best position is to hold out for a trade with a new contract and do what he can to pass the physical.
I think I suffer from what CnD explained. My ankles are shot... & weak. But I can do everything I've always done on them... if my knees allow it that is.

But every now & then, the slightest things will cause me to twist my ankle. There would be pain for a little while, but I always walk it off & I'm good until the next incident.

Of course, I'm nowhere near the athlete Percy Harvin is & he uses his ankles in ways I never had the ability to do. But my point, is that he may not recognize how bad it is.

My ankles were like this for years before I thought I had a chronic problem that stemmed back to skate boarding when I was a teenager.

I can run a mile now, no problem & if I weren't so out of shape, I could probably run 25 without my ankles bothering me..... as long as I'm on a relatively even surface. I play basketball from time to time, no problem, racketball.. same thing. But I'll be damned if I'm just walking across the yard & my heel falls into an unexpected divit......

I'm hitting the ground. People laugh at me (I can take it) because they can't see what caused me to fall.
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Man, Percy Harvin and Darelle Revis are available for trade this offseason. A team like Denver or SF trading for either of them would be interesting. I'd like the Texans to get Harvin if possible, but I don't see it happening. The 49ers have the caproom to trade for both, and after seeing them waste a 1st round pick last year on AJ Jenkins, I would think it would be best to trade for a proven guy like Harvin. If they spent a 2nd and 4th on Harvin, and their 1st on Revis, they would have a very good chance of winning it all next year.
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First off I would love to have Harvin. I do have concerns about attitude but would take the gamble on that. But the compensation in picks and money is just outside the Texans' reach.

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Love this guy. His injury concerns are way overblown as up until last year he had only missed one game due to the migraines. 2 years back he was the most productive WR in the league the 2nd half of the year and started the same last year until the injury. The guy is incredibly talented.
Not sure where you get the bold. Double what he was doing last year and you don't get close to AJ or CJ. Harvin has never topped 1000 yds receiving. AJ had a better rookie year than any Harvin has had so far and that was with Carr throwing to him.

I'd like to have him on the team but I think he is and will be dramatically over valued.
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I'd like to have him on the team but I think he is and will be dramatically over valued.
I feel exactly the same way. But if we end up not getting him, I bet it's going to serve as proof that Bob is Cheap.

Nevermind that there is a hard cap. Bob's Cheap.


& that's just sad.
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If the FO can't land him, I don't think that'll be an indictment of them seeing as Harvin is going to be targeted by other teams.

As for whether they should, I've been mocking Quinton Patton to Houston in the second a bunch, and getting Harvin would basically mean getting a more experienced Patton right away.

If we can't bring him in, we save some cap space and draft picks. If we do, that's one crucial missing piece filled. Going to be interesting to see where he lands this offseason.
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First off I would love to have Harvin. I do have concerns about attitude but would take the gamble on that. But the compensation in picks and money is just outside the Texans' reach.



Not sure where you get the bold. Double what he was doing last year and you don't get close to AJ or CJ. Harvin has never topped 1000 yds receiving. AJ had a better rookie year than any Harvin has had so far and that was with Carr throwing to him.

I'd like to have him on the team but I think he is and will be dramatically over valued.
Players always seem to be just outside othe Texans reach. Which one is it? If he would make the team better I'm would be all for signing Harvin up. Overvalued is in the eye of the beholder.

BTW, after reading Docs post on Harvins injury history I would pass on him.

But it appears the Pats are going to try to trade for Harvin. We're chasing the Pats, does them getting Harvin and the Texans put them farther ahead of the Texans?

See, the thing is teams like the Pats either, A manage their cap better or B are willing to take chances the Texans are not. This explains part of the difference between the 2 orgs. The Texans say they want to emulate the Pats org. But do they really? Because their actions aren't ringing true to their words. They operate nothing like the Pats.
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He's a really good player. What do you think, guys?
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Brought up 3 days ago, thread is in the NFL section where it belongs.
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Brought up 3 days ago, thread is in the NFL section where it belongs.
I think it's OK being here since this is a discussion of him possibly fitting in with the Texans.

The Texans do need someone else for sure. I don't know enough about this guy (besides him being a good player) to give an educated opinion. Has he had any off the field issues or locker room issues?
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