S.Cody injured

[False Start]

I really hope he gets back soon, and Mitchell, and Fangupo can do the job good enough while he's out.

[TejasTom]

Originally Posted by False Start

I really hope he gets back soon...

Unintentional pun

[Corrosion]

Its obvious they miss Cody on first and second downs ....

[drs23]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

Its obvious they miss Cody on first and second downs ....

It is. Remember when Wade said Cody would do fine in his system and people still wanted a monster in the middle? Wade got it right again.

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by drs23

It is. Remember when Wade said Cody would do fine in his system and people still wanted a monster in the middle? Wade got it right again.

Wade also wanted Ball.

Not sayin, just sayin.

[Vinnie]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

Wade also wanted Ball.

Not sayin, just sayin.

And Bradie James.

[welsh texan]

Originally Posted by IDEXAN

Not taking anything away from Shaun here and he did make his own contribution to last years outstanding Texans' defense, but I'd still say he's the least indispensable starting player on the whole defense. But I for sure hope he still recovers soon and gets back on the field.

I've got to disagree here I'm afraid, Cody does his bit and there isn't a heck of a lot of experience behind him. If Cody is likely to miss significant time, I wouldn't be surprised to see us look to the waiver wire rather than slotting one of our rookies into a starters role.

Edit; Obviously i'm forgetting about Mitchell there but i'm unsure how much trust Wade has in him.

[CloakNNNdagger]

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

As a second back injection has been reported administered to Cody at the beginning of the week(a little over a week following his 1st) , the NFL study I quoted earlier in this thread (post #14)possibly becomes more interesting. Most physicians would space the injection closer to 2 weeks. For resistant cases, a 3rd injection could be again administered 2 weeks later. Most surgeons would not entertain any more than 3 in a 6 month span. Others consider that no more than 3 should be administered in a 1 year period.

Going back to the study, of the 17 NFL players, a total of 37 injections for 27 distinct lumbar disc herniation episodes were administered. The success rate of returning an athlete to play for a given episode of disc herniation was 89% (24 of 27 episodes) with an average loss of 2.8 practices (range = 0-12) and 0.6 games (range = 0-2) after the injection. Only four players required a repeat injection for the same episode. Three of these four players ultimately failed conservative management and required surgical intervention.

Whether Cody received his 2nd injection with the Texans attempting to facilitate his recovery vs. to “hurry” his recovery and return to play vs. because his recovery is not progressing as expected, would have to be a matter of speculation at this time. The latter 2 scenarios would not be positive. I hope we are dealing with the first scenario so that Cody doesn’t have to end up dealing with an early recurrent episode, or worse yet, consideration for surgery.

Cody underwent back surgery

[kiwitexansfan]

I think we'll be looking to address DT in the offseason.

[Brisco_County]

This is the question I posted in the thread about the 2013 roster:

Doesn't a discectomy mean they removed the disc, which means they have to fuse the two vertebrae? That's quite a hindurance on a guy who has to start with his hand down and explode upward.

[Insideop]

Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan

I think we'll be looking to address DT in the offseason.

The Texans better address DT in the draft. Cody's a FA this year, I think, but may end up a cap casualty. Don't think they have enough $$ for another FA. I was hoping last year they would get Mike Martin in the draft but they passed. There are some good DT's (NT's) in this draft but they'll probably be gone after the 2nd round.

[TexanSam]

Maybe he'll retire and become a radio host. He seems like a pretty cool, fun dude. I'd miss his "On the Nose" segments if he leaves.

[CloakNNNdagger]

Originally Posted by Brisco_County

This is the question I posted in the thread about the 2013 roster:

Doesn't a discectomy mean they removed the disc, which means they have to fuse the two vertebrae? That's quite a hindurance on a guy who has to start with his hand down and explode upward.

The procedure is usually referred to as microdiscectomy. It’s not usually a removal of the entire disc. When a disc is bulging, it competes with the same space that the nerve at that level is coming out from the spinal cord. Therefore, it places abnormal pressure on that nerve, leading to the involved pain symptoms. If the bulging cannot be lessened with “injections” such as with steroids to decrease the inflammatory swelling/bulging, then microdiscectomy is many times the next step. This procedure involves just the removal of that part of the disc (through a 1 cm incision, which makes it "minimally invasive") that is competing for the outlet space [See figure below], in hopes that major open surgery can possibly be avoided. Just the offending "part" of the disc can be removed, because the inner disc is not composed of liquid as most people believe, more like a thick Jello which can to some extent be sculpted.

In determining why to have a microdiscectomy, it’s going to be most successful in those patients who have what we call radicular pain or radiculopathy. And that’s pain that radiates from the buttocks or hip down below the knee, frequently into the lower leg and even more frequently into some portion of the foot. Under those circumstances, patients should have a very good response from a discectomy. If the primary complaint is back pain along with some leg pain, you might commonly find with the microdiscectomy that the leg gets better, but the back not necessarily.



Cody, except for the 4th week (and don’t ask me how he avoided making it a clean run) was on the Injury Report for “back.” He was far from effective last year. The longer a peripheral nerve is allowed to be under pressure, the harder and less predictable the rehab. Pre-decompression sensory changes such as numbness (or even pain) and motor weakness may not resolve quickly or at all. But if “back pain” was his main symptom, it also tells me that ultimate major back surgery sometime in the not far future would not be all that far-fetched.

[CloakNNNdagger]

A 2010 study including 23 NFL players (1986-2008) revealed that 74% returned to NFL play for an average of 36 games over a 4 year period. There was no significant change in performance when comparing pre-injury and post-injury statistics. It should be noted that these players were all skill players (quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, and tight ends)......no linemen . It should also be noted that microdiscectomy was not developed until 1997. Other studies including only the micro technique, but involving different sports at all levels have shown return to play as high as 85%. Chronic delay of the decompression of the nerve’s involved, and initial presentation with and continued “back” symptoms would be the greatest risk factor for those that did not return or had significant incomplete recovery. These same factors may also make the traditional open technique favored.

A review of the literature reveals that return to play for those who can will be around 5-6 months. This is quicker that the traditional technique, since the traditional larger incision route cuts through muscle groups that tend to be well-developed in NFL athletes. It’s also interesting to note that players treated surgically played in more games post-treatment than did those treated nonoperatively with injection and rehab. Remember, an important part of the conservative approach to an established bulging lumbar disc is adequate rest from play......something that Cody didn’t apparently have except for maybe a period of 3 games weeks 10-13 (throughout which time he still participated in practices).

Keep in mind that the most common problem of a discectomy beside persisten back pain or significant neurologic deficits (sensory and muscle weakness) is that there is a chance that another fragment of disc will herniate and cause similar symptoms down the road. This is a so-called recurrent disc herniation, and the risk of this occurring is about 10-15%.

[Brisco_County]

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

The longer a peripheral nerve is allowed to be under pressure, the harder and less predictable the rehab. Pre-decompression sensory changes such as numbness (or even pain) and motor weakness may not resolve quickly or at all.

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

A 2010 study including 23 NFL players (1986-2008) revealed that 74% returned to NFL play for an average of 36 games over a 4 year period. There was no significant change in performance when comparing pre-injury and post-injury statistics. It should be noted that these players were all skill players (quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, and tight ends)......no linemen .

On one hand, he may have affected the nerves by postponing surgery. On the other, athletes at other positions have successfully returned to their expected performance standards. That would've left a GM with a risk assessment of 50/50 if not for these concerns: 1) There apparently is no data for linemen, which is a special consideration since they launch from a three-point stance. 2) Recovery will restrict his lower body strength training for most of the offseason, and he will not be in the necessary condition by preseason.

So with Wade Phillips already advising that the position could be improved through the draft, I am not optimistic that Cody remains on the roster. I think he still has a career, just not with the Texans.

[steelbtexan]

Seems like Cody is about done.

It's time to bring in Casey Hampton.

You could use the $$$$ saved by cutting A.Smith and Cody to bring Hampton home. Plus have some $$$$ left over to sign a vet WR with speed. Denario Alexander type.

Then draft Short in the 1st rd if available. DL of Watt/Hampton and Short should be able to be stout against the run and really help with the pass rush.

Passing downs with Short/Watt inside and Mercilus/Barwin or Crick (both of whom I expect to see great improvement frm their rookie yrs) with Cushing in the middle = Much improved overall pass rush and defense.

Short reminds me of a young Wilfork. All 300 + men take plays off. They have too. So yes Shorts motor runs hot and cold.

[IDEXAN]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

It's time to bring in Casey Hampton.

He's 35 years old.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by IDEXAN

He's 35 years old.

And played very well last yr as a 2 down run stopper. Which is exactly what this defense needs. I also would buy some time to get some experience for whoever the Texans draft at NT next yr.

While still being productive Hampton could help mentor the young guys. The only reason the Steelers are letting guys like Wallace,Hampton etc... walk is their terrible cap situation.

[srrono]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Seems like Cody is about done.

It's time to bring in Casey Hampton.

You could use the $$$$ saved by cutting A.Smith and Cody to bring Hampton home. Plus have some $$$$ left over to sign a vet WR with speed. Denario Alexander type.

Then draft Short in the 1st rd if available. DL of Watt/Hampton and Short should be able to be stout against the run and really help with the pass rush.

Passing downs with Short/Watt inside and Mercilus/Barwin or Crick (both of whom I expect to see great improvement frm their rookie yrs) with Cushing in the middle = Much improved overall pass rush and defense.

Short reminds me of a young Wilfork. All 300 + men take plays off. They have too. So yes Shorts motor runs hot and cold.

This is a write up about FA DT Desmond Bryant (OAK)from a NE Blogger but I like what he has to say about Desmond Bryant could be an answer for HOU as well.

Desmond Bryant played his 2012 season with the Oakland Raiders. Bryant is a defensive tackle with a mega frame, standing 6’6 and 310 pounds, he could plug up the middle of the line for New England beside the mega, Vince Wilfork. Nobody knew of Desmond Bryant until Richard Seymour went down for the season with an hamstring injury, and Bryant filled in, and out played Seymour’s previous eight weeks on the field. Bryant finished the season with 4 sacks, 11 quarterback hits, and 20 quarterback hurries on 350 pass rushes. That gave him the 6th highest pass rushing productivity of all defensive tackles who rushed the passer at least 200 times. He also had 18 total tackles at the end of the season. Bryant in a short period of time had a productive year. To get that kind of pressure from the defensive tackle spot is ideal, and would be great for New England, to be able to generate pressure up the middle. Bryant doesn’t have to sack the QB all the time, he just needs to pressure the QB, that helps with a QB throwing incompletions or better, interceptions. Getting pressure up the middle makes it difficult on QBs, especially pocket passers. The Patriots need to generate pressure on the QB anywhere from on the line, seeing as they struggle to get any pressure from any spot on the field.

Desmond Bryant would not command a lot of money seeing as he is not a big free agent name this year, and this past season was his first big year, and really getting to play but with him not commanding a lot of money or a long term contract, he is well worth the risk. He is a low risk, high reward kind of player. Putting him beside Vince Wilfork would be a sight to see, these two big guys right beside each other would be almost unblockable. Offensive linemen can’t block them both.

Link to Blog

[pec0sb0b]

[quote=srrono;2123515]This is a write up about FA DT Desmond Bryant (OAK)from a NE Blogger but I like what he has to say about Desmond Bryant could be an answer for HOU as well.

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