Stupor Bowl Ring Not withstanding Joe Flacco STILL aint that great

[Playoffs]

The spoils of victory...

Joe Flacco's agent told CNBC that the Super Bowl's Most Valuable Player should be the highest-paid quarterback in the NFL. That means Flacco would command more than the Saints' Drew Brees, who is earning $20 million per season.

Here is Flacco's case for why he should get paid more than every quarterback in the league:

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/pos...laccos-demands

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by toronto

That defense gave up almost 500 yards and nearly lost a 22 point lead. The man had a lights out post season and earned that ring. Vinnys point about that Lee Evans drop, forget he act that Billy Cundiff blew a chip shot to send to OT...and we may be talking about a 2 time champ for all we know, rendering this thread completely moot.

I never give a raven his due unless its deserved. I hate the fkn team. In his case, he's earned it. Elite? Dunno. But way up there? Yes.

I'm just arguing the point. Not taking anything away from Flacco. He played very well last year & should have been in the Super Bowl 10 weeks ago we were debating who was better, flacco os Schaub. Had he lost in the Super Bowl it would have been the same thing. Nobody cares abound the loser.

Had the Ravens D not nutted up on the goal line, nobody would be talking Flacco today & nobody would think he had management bent over.

[toronto]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I'm just arguing the point. Not taking anything away from Flacco. He played very well last year & should have been in the Super Bowl 10 weeks ago we were debating who was better, flacco os Schaub. Had he lost in the Super Bowl it would have been the same thing. Nobody cares abound the loser.

Had the Ravens D not nutted up on the goal line, nobody would be talking Flacco today & nobody would think he had management bent over.

look you can argue...but I would counter argue that say Lee Evans holds onto that pass. They win it all last year vs the Giants. He never gets franchised and gets his big deal after the SB last year...then he repeats his year. He is suddenly in the pantheon conversation reserved for only truly great QBs..as one hat repeated as champ, which is very rare in the NFL.

The what ifs are everywhere.

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by handswarmer

Uh Brough-ham; re-read what I wrote- "Brady hasn't won (A Super Bowl) in 9 years)"...Brady went to the SB because a crap WR couldn't hold on to a pass a stinkin' kicker shanked a 32 yd FG...

And PRIOR to this one...when was the last time your Ravens PLAYED in one? ASK ANY football fan outside of Maryland if they had a choice between Tom Brady as their QB or Joltin' Joe Flacco, Flacco would lose UNANIMOUSLY. Brady LOST his last two trips to the Superbowl to Eli Manning, but unlike Joe Flacco and the Baltimore Ravens...he was IN the SUPERBOWL rather than watching it from his couch. Last year when Thomasina LOST her 2nd Superbowl in FIVE TRIPS. What was Joe Flacco doing...I mean OTHER than routing for the Giants? Please don't play the "The Patriots only won..." card pal. Your team was offsides for the bulk of the the superbowl they just "won" and in San Francisco's last offensive stand defensive Pass Interference and HOLDING were ignored on consecutive plays. And the fact that one of your DBs shoved an official and wasn't ejected forfiets your right to play the "victim" card. Like it or not, last year the Patriots were the last team standing in the AFC.
Winning 3 out of 5 puts Brady (as much as I LOATHE the Son of a 3itch) up there with Elway who went to SIX and won two. He's a fierce competitor and a great athlete. Joe Flacco is a mediocre QB on a team with a BRILLIANT defense. DEAL WITH IT!

Originally Posted by handswarm

This part is so full of stupid I cannot even begin to formulate a reply....

Accepting the truth bothers you? Be a bit more pragmatic. Try some simple math problems to relax. Here's one:

Great Defense
+ Great Running back
+ Great Receiver
+ Mediocre QB
+ Commissioner who is a total fan of a retiring player
+ Blind referees
=

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I'm just arguing the point. Not taking anything away from Flacco. He played very well last year & should have been in the Super Bowl 10 weeks ago we were debating who was better, flacco os Schaub. Had he lost in the Super Bowl it would have been the same thing. Nobody cares abound the loser.

Had the Ravens D not nutted up on the goal line, nobody would be talking Flacco today & nobody would think he had management bent over.

(cough)passinterferenceandholdingonconsecutiveplaysrefsdi dn'tcall!

[Luv_ya_blue]

Originally Posted by Dread-Head

(cough)passinterferenceandholdingonconsecutiveplaysrefsdi dn'tcall!

and...

(sneeze) defensiveoffsidesonatleastthreedifferentplaysthatd idn'tgetcalled!

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by Dread-Head

And PRIOR to this one...when was the last time your Ravens PLAYED in one? ASK ANY football fan outside of Maryland if they had a choice between Tom Brady as their QB or Joltin' Joe Flacco, Flacco would lose UNANIMOUSLY. Brady LOST his last two trips to the Superbowl to Eli Manning, but unlike Joe Flacco and the Baltimore Ravens...he was IN the SUPERBOWL rather than watching it from his couch. Last year when Thomasina LOST her 2nd Superbowl in FIVE TRIPS. What was Joe Flacco doing...I mean OTHER than routing for the Giants? Please don't play the "The Patriots only won..." card pal. Your team was offsides for the bulk of the the superbowl they just "won" and in San Francisco's last offensive stand defensive Pass Interference and HOLDING were ignored on consecutive plays. And the fact that one of your DBs shoved an official and wasn't ejected forfiets your right to play the "victim" card. Like it or not, last year the Patriots were the last team standing in the AFC.
Winning 3 out of 5 puts Brady (as much as I LOATHE the Son of a 3itch) up there with Elway who went to SIX and won two. He's a fierce competitor and a great athlete. Joe Flacco is a mediocre QB on a team with a BRILLIANT defense. DEAL WITH IT!




Accepting the truth bothers you? Be a bit more pragmatic. Try some simple math problems to relax. Here's one:

Great Defense
+ Great Running back
+ Great Receiver
+ Mediocre QB
+ Commissioner who is a total fan of a retiring player
+ Blind referees
=

Again, strike your great defense claim...read the last posts above and on previous page and strike the conspiracies. This just looks foolish with no rational thought.

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by Goatcheese

Still seems like that should have been a penalty. The returner has the opportunity to catch the ball until it hits the ground and the defender interfered with him.

They way I learned it...the second ANY part of the receiver's body touches the football you can light him up. If one of his fingernails touches the ball...SHOWTIME (kablammo!)

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

Again, strike your great defense claim...read the last posts above and on previous page and strike the conspiracies. This just looks foolish with no rational thought.

Atlanta has a great defense and had the BEST record in the NFL this season. SanFrancisco's offense came back on them too. You're acting as if the offense that Raven's defense faced was from Ryan Middle School. They CLEARLY weren't.

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by Luv_ya_blue

and...

(sneeze) defensiveoffsidesonatleastthreedifferentplaysthatd idn'tgetcalled!

Thank you reverend. I thought I was simply being an "irrational" conspiracy theorist.

[handswarmer]

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

Again, strike your great defense claim...read the last posts above and on previous page and strike the conspiracies. This just looks foolish with no rational thought.

Please do not bring logic to a delusional rant!


PS-

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by Dread-Head

Atlanta has a great defense and had the BEST record in the NFL this season. SanFrancisco's offense came back on them too. You're acting as if the offense that Raven's defense faced was from Ryan Middle School. They CLEARLY weren't.

AGAIN,..look at playoff numbers too. Not a dominant D. Not close. The Cowboys racked up a record 229 rushing yards on them this year. Not the same D and not a valid point at all. Just like the PI call. Look at the different replays. Crabtree had the guys jersey and helmet and was pushing. The ball landed 5 yards out of bounds. Good no call. Don't let hate cloud any sense of reality. Flacco had a record playoffs vs the top 3 teams in the league and had been doing this for 7 games total. He was a drop away last year. He isn't great every game, he isn't elite but downplaying what he did and has done makes zero sense. Just like calling Jacoby a Judas. Judas betrayed someone close to him when he was still "with them." Jesus didn't cut him from the apostles where he excelled as a preacher elsewhere. Jacoby did well where he went. Be mad at the Texans for not teaching their players right.

Total Defense-Yards:

Season 17th
Playoffs--8th out of 12

Rushing Yards:

Season 20th
Playoffs 7th out of 12


Passing Yards:

Season 17th
Playoffs 9th of 12

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by handswarmer

Please do not bring logic to a "delusional" rant!


PS-

In YOUR mind's eye...Joe Flacco is a SUPERIOR QUARTERBACK to BOTH Tom Brady & Payton Manning. and I'm the one who's "Delusional?!"

Muff-hugga If nothing else I have to give you mad props on your ability to type so legibly with one hand whilst obviously cradling your MASSIVE CRACK PIPE with the other.

[handswarmer]

Originally Posted by Dread-Head

And PRIOR to this one...when was the last time your Ravens PLAYED in one? ASK ANY football fan outside of Maryland if they had a choice between Tom Brady as their QB or Joltin' Joe Flacco, Flacco would lose UNANIMOUSLY. Brady LOST his last two trips to the Superbowl to Eli Manning, but unlike Joe Flacco and the Baltimore Ravens...he was IN the SUPERBOWL rather than watching it from his couch. Last year when Thomasina LOST her 2nd Superbowl in FIVE TRIPS. What was Joe Flacco doing...I mean OTHER than routing for the Giants? Please don't play the "The Patriots only won..." card pal. Your team was offsides for the bulk of the the superbowl they just "won" and in San Francisco's last offensive stand defensive Pass Interference and HOLDING were ignored on consecutive plays. And the fact that one of your DBs shoved an official and wasn't ejected forfiets your right to play the "victim" card. Like it or not, last year the Patriots were the last team standing in the AFC.
Winning 3 out of 5 puts Brady (as much as I LOATHE the Son of a 3itch) up there with Elway who went to SIX and won two. He's a fierce competitor and a great athlete. Joe Flacco is a mediocre QB on a team with a BRILLIANT defense. DEAL WITH IT!




Accepting the truth bothers you? Be a bit more pragmatic. Try some simple math problems to relax. Here's one:

Great Defense
+ Great Running back
+ Great Receiver
+ Mediocre QB
+ Commissioner who is a total fan of a retiring player
+ Blind referees
=

Crack is a terrible thing. The only thing you got right which is indisputable, is that Carey Williams should have been ejected for shoving the referee- bet he gets at least a $75,000 fine.


Other than that, the rest of your crap, er, post, is just sour grapes and whining. You are pisseed that a team you destroyed in the regular season went and beat the team that you got pummeled by 2x in the regular seaon. An you and a lot of oter Texans fans are bitter, thinking that you could have beaten us at home in the Playoffs. Sorry dude, that Ravens team wasn't going to lose to anyone this post-season.

Flacco did what Brady, Manning 2x, Rodgers, Brees and Baby Ben couldn't: he tied Joe Montana for the most TD's and zero INTS in a postseason.....Flacco is in the Top 6-8 of QB's in the NFL- the actuall rank doesn't concern me. Either if he is "ELITE" or not.....who really cares? Look at your boy Schaub- guady numbers out the wazoo; where is he in the big games? Crappy his pants?



What does matter to me is that he wins, is successful, and the team makes the playoffs and wins in the post season.

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

AGAIN,..look at playoff numbers too. Not a dominant D. Not close. The Cowboys racked up a record 229 rushing yards on them this year. Not the same D and not a valid point at all. Just like the PI call. Look at the different replays. Crabtree had the guys jersey and helmet and was pushing. The ball landed 5 yards out of bounds. Good no call. Don't let hate cloud any sense of reality. Flacco had a record playoffs vs the top 3 teams in the league and had been doing this for 7 games total. He was a drop away last year. He isn't great every game, he isn't elite but downplaying what he did and has done makes zero sense. Just like calling Jacoby a Judas. Judas betrayed someone close to him when he was still "with them." Jesus didn't cut him from the apostles where he "excelled" as a preacher elsewhere. Jacoby did well where he went. Be mad at the Texans for not teaching their players right.

Total Defense-Yards:

Season 17th
Playoffs--8th out of 12

Rushing Yards:

Season 20th
Playoffs 7th out of 12


Passing Yards:

Season 17th
Playoffs 9th of 12

"Excelled"? Woah...pump your breaks. One good season isn't "excelling" His overall numbers are down from what they were when he was here.

[handswarmer]

Originally Posted by Dread-Head

In YOUR mind's eye...Joe Flacco is a SUPERIOR QUARTERBACK to BOTH Tom Brady & Payton Manning. and I'm the one who's "Delusional?!"

Muff-hugga If nothing else I have to give you mad props on your ability to type so legibly with one hand whilst obviously cradling your MASSIVE CRACK PIPE with the other.

Please find where I wrote "Joe Flacco is SUPERIOR to Tom Brady and Peyton Manning"


Pssst- he did beat both of them in THEIR house during the playoffs.....

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by Dread-Head

"Excelled"? Woah...pump your breaks. One good season isn't "excelling" His overall numbers are down from what they were when he was here.

Your missing the point. I was just saying that he didn't get cut and go elsewhere and help them in a big situation or excel. He was a top/Pro Bowl returner this year and showed up in the playoffs and SB. Doesn't make him a traitor for getting work when he was out of work.

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by handswarmer

Crack is a terrible thing. The only thing you got right which is indisputable, is that Carey Williams should have been ejected for shoving the referee- bet he gets at least a $75,000 fine.


Other than that, the rest of your crap, er, post, is just sour grapes and whining. 1. You are pisseed that a team you destroyed in the regular season went and beat the team that you got pummeled by 2x in the regular seaon. An you and a lot of oter Texans fans are bitter, thinking that you could have beaten us at home in the Playoffs.

Okay. 3itching ME out personally is one thing. I've no issue you calling me out given the nature of this thread and I have a thick skin & accept the full brunt of your ire, but the board where you're trashing OTHER Texans fans is still called "Texans Talk". Do yourself a huge favor and limit your attacks TO me on this one. Within the ranks of this board some die hard Texans fans are agreeing with you on some of your stuff. Don't say anything that might lose you some friends.

Originally Posted by warmhands

Sorry dude, that Ravens team wasn't going to lose to anyone this post-season.

YOUR OPINION. Simply repeating it over and over won't make it true.

Originally Posted by warminghands on his junk

Flacco did what Brady, Manning 2x, Rodgers, Brees and Baby Ben couldn't: he tied Joe Montana for the most TD's and zero INTS in a postseason.....

Brady has three rings in five trips.
The Manning brothers have three between them
Montana has FOUR
Ben has 2 out of three.

Joe Flacco is not the superior much less the EQUAL of any of the QBs YOU just mentioned. You might as well say that Larry Brown is as great a DB as Deion Sanders because he got three interceptions in the ONE Superbowl in which he played and got MVP.

Originally Posted by warmhans

Flacco is in the Top 6-8 of QB's in the NFL-

What color is the sky in your world?

Originally Posted by Warmhands...or whatever this muff-hugga calls himself

the actuall rank doesn't concern me. Either if he is "ELITE" or not.....who really cares? Look at your boy Schaub- guady numbers out the wazoo; where is he in the big games? Crappy his pants?

Son, If you think you're going to offend me by dissin' Matt Schaub...you ARE on drugs. There is a long line of Texans fans on this board who do the same thing DAILY. Get in line to diss Schaub and wait your turn. I've been badmouthin' Dog Boy's back up since he came here from Atlanta. Maybe your carrion should make him a back up to the "greatest QB in NFL History" aka Joe Flacco so you can sing his praises if he ever lucks up and happens to catch mad breaks from an officiating crew that does acid before a game.

Originally Posted by whatever

What does matter to me is that he wins, is successful, and the team makes the playoffs and wins in the post season.

"Wins?"...No bruh...WON. Relish this. It aint happening again.

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by handswarmer

Please find where I wrote "Joe Flacco is SUPERIOR to Tom Brady and Peyton Manning"


Pssst- he did beat both of them in THEIR house during the playoffs.....

You're putting him on the same plane...he's not even close. BTW I HATE Tom Brady with a PASSION. Acknowleging that 3itches greatness leaves a foul taste in my mouth.

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

Your missing the point. I was just saying that he didn't get cut and go elsewhere and help them in a big situation or excel. He was a top/Pro Bowl returner this year and showed up in the playoffs and SB. Doesn't make him a traitor for getting work when he was out of work.

Had he gone anywhere else I wouldn't have had a problem. The team whom he helped to knock us out of the playoffs however looks beyond suspicious to me. I've nothing but love and respect to Leach and Pollard in their new home but sorry...J.J. can kiss my muff-huggin' rectum.