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Old 01-18-2013   #61
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I'm trying to remember what story it was that had two people dead in a house.

Obviously not Ray Lewis, but not sure if it was an athlete or some other kind of entertainer.

It rings a bell, but I could not find anything on Google without much details.

Maybe it was someone in the music industry?
Not two but maybe Jayson Williams?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayson_Williams
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It's not exactly daring to hate Ray Lewis. Facebook data show that most people are rooting for the 49ers to win the Super Bowl, and I'm sure "F#@K RAY LEWIS" has a lot to do with that. No one disputes that Lewis should be a Hall of Famer, and I guess we can all agree that he's a good leader. He sure shouts a lot. What is in dispute is whether he's an overrated, self-aggrandizing sack of sh!t who throws God in your face any time you accuse him of being anything less than a saint. So let's take a moment to break down Ray Lewis's loathsomeness piece by awful piece in a very special hater's guide. It's our little trick of the devil.

Ray Lewis is a backstabber, at the very least...
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I like Ray Lewis and I'm glad he turned his life around.

But the above question has always been a splinter in my mind's eye. It's an obvious question that nobody wants to ask anymore.

He knew more about that incident than he admitted. The missing suit speaks volumes to this silence.

I'm not accusing him of murder. However, I'm also pragmatic and understand that his plea of guilty to obstruction of justice in a plea bargain is clearly a more-to-the-story situation.

Since then, though, he's been an inspiration to many and a role model for both players and fans. It's not like he's had a troubled pattern over the years that reveals he's faking it. I think that tragedy focused the man to define what he wanted to be in life and he chose the high road.
This.

As others have said, people need to stop acting like they were there. Maybe he was holding the knife and maybe he wasn't. Maybe he was an accomplice, and maybe he wasn't. Maybe self-defense was involved, and maybe it wasn't. The fact is though no one knows accept the two guys that are dead and buried and Ray Lewis and his buddies.

What we do know is that Ray Lewis has been a model citizen since the incident. He has put a ton of his time and effort into helping younger athletes not make the same mistakes that he did. What he was involved with was a tragedy. But if anyone has done everything humanly possible to make up for any wrong doing, it is Ray Lewis. I, for one, respect the football player as well as the man.
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Did anyone just see that interview with his pastor on HLN? The interviewer asked him if Ray Lewis ever talked to him about what happened that night in Atlanta. He said yes ... so she asked "What did he tell you?".

He said something like "When I think of what Ray has been through I think of the book of Psalms where it speaks of David who was a murderer, adulterer, a man who neglected his job ... yet he went on to seek God and redemption and God redeemed him ... etc etc".

So he was comparing Ray Lewis to King David who WAS guilty of all the above. The difference is David admitted his error and paid dearly the rest of his life. Ray Lewis hasn't admitted anything and IF guilty has skated the whole ordeal.

It also leads me to question .. if Ray Lewis was innocent wouldn't his pastor just come out and say something like "Yes, Ray has spoke to me and has told me that he was completely innocent of all this."?
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Did anyone just see that interview with his pastor on HLN? ... He said something like...
I think the pastor is supposed to hold that in confidence(!)

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This.

As others have said, people need to stop acting like they were there. Maybe he was holding the knife and maybe he wasn't. Maybe he was an accomplice, and maybe he wasn't. Maybe self-defense was involved, and maybe it wasn't. The fact is though no one knows accept the two guys that are dead and buried and Ray Lewis and his buddies.

What we do know is that Ray Lewis has been a model citizen since the incident. He has put a ton of his time and effort into helping younger athletes not make the same mistakes that he did. What he was involved with was a tragedy. But if anyone has done everything humanly possible to make up for any wrong doing, it is Ray Lewis. I, for one, respect the football player as well as the man.
Wonder if you would feel this way if the two guys that died were family or friends of yours.
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If you weren't there then you should shut the ******* up. period.
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If you weren't there then you should shut the ******* up. period.
That works two ways, don't you agree?
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Honestly forget the murder ****, it's the praising Jesus like 10 times a minute and mugging for the cameras that have me saying good riddance.
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If you weren't there then you should shut the ******* up. period.
Your team wins a Super Bowl title and you are here posting on the texans message board an hour later. Wow, I think my cat "Dexter" has more of a life than you and he's licking his nuts as we speak.
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Honestly forget the murder ****, it's the praising Jesus like 10 times a minute and mugging for the cameras that have me saying good riddance.
And people thought Tebow was bad.
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If you weren't there then you should shut the ******* up. period.
Thanks but no thanks Johnny Cochran. You don't know either.
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Your team wins a Super Bowl title and you are here posting on the texans message board an hour later. Wow, I think my cat "Dexter" has more of a life than you and he's licking his nuts as we speak.
And your cat looks his nuts while this guy merely has his head up ray lewis' 'players tunnel'.
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Honestly forget the murder ****, it's the praising Jesus like 10 times a minute and mugging for the cameras that have me saying good riddance.
He's the worst. Or should I say the best at this b.s. act.
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He's the worst. Or should I say the best at this b.s. act.
No doubt. Where was he when God told him humility is a virtue?
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No doubt. Where was he when God told him humility is a virtue?
And when god talked about that whole 'thou shalt not kill' thing.
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That works two ways, don't you agree?
That was the point- only those who were there know.
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Your team wins a Super Bowl title and you are here posting on the texans message board an hour later. Wow, I think my cat "Dexter" has more of a life than you and he's licking his nuts as we speak.
And here you are writing about watching your cat licking his nuts and I'm the one without a life?
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That was the point- only those who were there know.
Always amazed at what a million bucks can do. In this case it made god great and a murder rap disappear.

Enjoy your SB win. Your team deserved it. 52 players on that team have my respect. Not him. Ever.
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