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Old 02-03-2013   #181
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It's not the special teams coach. It's the head coach and his upset stomach face. It's not just the returners that choke in big spots and make bonehead plays. It's from all phases.
I agree with this 100%. Because coach Joe is not the problem. He saw the potential in T. Holliday. Even though he was hurt. I was one of the haters. I thought he was a waist of space.
The thing is now. He is one of the top kick returners in the league.
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Lets see, we run jones out of town and is now in discussion for super bowl MVP, we run Holiday out of town and he was top 3 returners this season.....yup joe Marciano is NOT the problem
I bet Marciano wasn't consulted when they decided to cut either Jacoby or Trindon.

Our special teams also played better in the play offs when we "unprotected" players & let them play STs.

I bet our special teams once again becomes one of the better units in the whole league in 2013, but only if coach Joe is here. Fire Marciano & bring in someone like Wannestedt & I can't make any such guarantee.
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FIRE HIM refusing to do so would be just like spitting in the fans face


find someone better it wont be that hard 2 do


Why are we so scared for some tweeking a damm ST coach Ravens Changed there OC mid season and look what happend

THIS IS THE DAMM OFFSEASON MCNAIR ****TT !!!!
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It's time to stop blaming Jacoby.
Tell me about it. Jacoby made one crucial mistake in that game. TJ made 4, yet TJ gets the pass just because he was a 3rd string rookie.
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It's not the special teams coach. It's the head coach and his upset stomach face. It's not just the returners that choke in big spots and make bonehead plays. It's from all phases.
You're right, only handsome coaches win games.
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Why would you guys want to fire Marciano? According to Seth Payne and others at 610, he is a REALLY nice guy, so there is no reason why people should want him fired.
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Jacoby with the longest Kick Return in NFL history, on the biggest stage. Along with another big TD.
I bet he'll have a spot in the HoF because of it.


Imagine that. You go to the HoF next year & BAM, you see Matt Schaub's cleats & Jacoby's helmet/visor.
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Jacoby with the longest Kick Return in NFL history, on the biggest stage. Along with another big TD.


FIRE JOE.
Plus...the record is unbreakable...it can only be tied...


nevermind... it was ONLY 108 yards. Gamecast was calling it 109 last night and they have since adjusted it.

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nevermind... it was ONLY 108 yards. Gamecast was calling it 109 last night and they have since adjusted it.
Although JJ DID still set a record last night.
Only player in NFL history to score a KR for TD AND an offensive TD in the same game.
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Tell me about it. Jacoby made one crucial mistake in that game. TJ made 4, yet TJ gets the pass just because he was a 3rd string rookie.
because he was a rookie
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because he was a rookie
So we weren't going to win that game anyway.

Jacoby was trying to make a play. It didn't work out for him. We've seen those plays end up going for TDs, if Jacoby was able to get us on the other side of the 50, he'd have been a hero.

As it were, take away Jacoby's muff & we're still going to have a rookie airing it out against Ed Reed & the Ravens secondary. There should have been 6 interceptions, but there were only 3.

Blaming Jacoby for that loss is just hate. That's all it is.
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Although JJ DID still set a record last night.
Only player in NFL history to score a KR for TD AND an offensive TD in the same game.
Jacoby also set the record for total return yards by one player. I forget how much, but it was like 210. He had a great game, and really showed off why he was voted to the pro-bowl.
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Jacoby also set the record for total return yards by one player. I forget how much, but it was like 210. He had a great game, and really showed off why he was voted to the pro-bowl.
I didn't realize that.
Not hard to break records when you break one for 108, I guess.
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Why would you guys want to fire Marciano? According to Seth Payne and others at 610, he is a REALLY nice guy, so there is no reason why people should want him fired.

i cant stand this about the texans and the astros.

we dont watch sports because we want to watch a buncha sorry players who are good guys.

we watch sports to see talented players and to be entertained.

ive had enough mediocre good old houston boys like kubiak and playoff chokers like biggio and bagwell.
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I bet Marciano wasn't consulted when they decided to cut either Jacoby or Trindon.

Our special teams also played better in the play offs when we "unprotected" players & let them play STs.

I bet our special teams once again becomes one of the better units in the whole league in 2013, but only if coach Joe is here. Fire Marciano & bring in someone like Wannestedt & I can't make any such guarantee.
Sorry but I have to disagree on this. For one, it's not just about returns. It was more about the actual coverage last year. Take the Colts game when the guy right up the freaking middle untouched. There was no discipline for lane protection by the coverage team. That is coaching.

Last five seasons we have been ranked in the top ten of special teams once and that was way back in 2008. After that? 16th, 20th, 17th and this past season 32nd. How much more needs to be seen to think we need a change? Plus I highly doubt they cut a guy like Trindon who was only a special teams guy and didn't tell the special teams coach. These guys communicate. Things don't just happen and get passed on at lunch time or at the coffee maker, heh.

So it comes down to more than mere returns. I mean if we wish to be medicore or bad then by all means hold on to the guy. But sometimes you have to take that step forward to make your team better instead of standing pat at same ol' same ol'.
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Last five seasons we have been ranked in the top ten of special teams once and that was way back in 2008. After that? 16th, 20th, 17th and this past season 32nd. How much more needs to be seen to think we need a change?
I was under the impression that we were much better than that other than the last two years. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong & I agree with you.

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Plus I highly doubt they cut a guy like Trindon who was only a special teams guy and didn't tell the special teams coach. These guys communicate. Things don't just happen and get passed on at lunch time or at the coffee maker, heh.
I'm sure they told him but I'm also sure he didn't get a vote. I'm also thinking he doesn't get a say in who plays special teams or who doesn't. I've got no proof (other than there were players on special teams during the play offs that weren't during the season) but I think Kubiak & Wade tells Marciano who he can & can't have & Marciano has to make it work.

I'm not saying I think he should be able to pick all the players he wants, but he should probably have a little more input.
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Marciano: I really need AJ returning kicks & Cushing as a burner.

Kubiak: Alright, NOW you're fired.
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Some ST coaches are so good that they outgrow their jobs. I hardly see this happening with Marciano.

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Harbaugh spent nine of his 10 seasons in Philadelphia as the Eagles' special-teams coordinator. Andy Reid moved him to defensive backs coach in '07, largely to help him improve his chances of getting a pro or college head-coaching job.

"You get to that age and financial spot where you've got to make a move or you're going to outprice yourself as a special-teams coordinator," Reid, now the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, said Monday.

"John was climbing [salarywise] into the upper echelon of special-teams coaches. And you just didn't see DB coaches being DB coaches at that time for the amount of money John was making. He had to make the move or he was going to outprice himself or have to take a pay cut [to become a position coach]."

Harbaugh is one of six former Reid assistants to become NFL head coaches, and the first to win a Super Bowl.
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I'm still on board. How the hell does Marciano still have a job?
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