All Encompassing Matt Schaub Thread

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Premier

the whole "with who?" argument is just as flawed as "anybody but schaub". at some point youre going to have to take a risk and gamble on an unproven commodity. the obvious choices arent going to ever be available. once you really accept that schaub isnt the guy, you have to do something. if you keep asking "with who?" then we we'll keep doing the same thing over and over and schaub will never get replaced. then after 3 more years are flushed down the toilet and 3-4 more mid-round qbs prove to be studs, it will be too late..

You're assuming we can't win a Super Bowl with Matt Schaub.

Again, never been a Schaub fan. I don't like him, never did. But I'd be lying if I said he hasn't played at a high level over the last 6 years. A level high enough to win a Super Bowl.

I know there are times when you see the goofy bastard out there, you shake your head, sometimes drop your head..... face palm.... I mean even the Forest Gump striding Peyton Manning will pick up 5 yards or 7 yards if he needs it to move the chains. Our guy will trip & fumble over his own two feet.

Speaking of Peyton Manning, if I could chose a QB to lead my team, it'd be 18 hands down. He's smarter than everyone else on the field, he reads defenses quick, he manipulates DBs, he understands the game, he's a field general, he's got a laser rocket arm...

But he's only won 1 Super Bowl. So what do I know?

I didn't think Tom Brady was shiz as a QB when he won 3 of them. When I finally thought he belonged in the "Best QB" conversation, he hasn't been able to get it done.

Roethlisberger...... who'd have thunk he would already have won 2

[thunderkyss]

Here are Andre's comments about the season & Matt Schaub, and his offseason.

[Surreal McCoy]

Originally Posted by buddyboy

What's pathetic is the "anyone but Matt Schaub" boat. THIS is what fans do. They convince themselves that the grass is greener, that for some reason, their team is the only team suffering and that any change is good change.

I agree that Matt Schaub can be replaced. In fact, if a replacement comes along that will improve this team, I am ALL FOR IT.

Show me that replacement waiting to be realistically signed/traded for/drafted and I'll be all over that. Until then, Schaub is our best bet.

They have. The ABS crew have routinely pointed out that Jon Kitna is available!

[amazing80]

Schaub with an under throw on a deep ball that gets picked

[hookinreds]

Originally Posted by amazing80

Schaub with an under throw on a deep ball that gets picked

Exactly!

[tru80texan]

Awwwwww.....classic Schaub. Even at the Pro Bowl w/ NUMEROUS receiving options our 1 read qb tries to force it to Andre w/ 2 defenders in the area & what happens...INTERCEPTION!

If he can't find someone else to throw to at the Pro Bowl will bringing in a legit #2 WR really help???

[nut]

SChaub's arm is not strong enough to get us to the SB. No offense to him as a person.

[amazing80]

YES!!!!! He went into the fetal position, my night is complete

[thunderkyss]

Not that I want to jump on the Schaub hate, but he's making it difficult for Andrew Luck to win this game.

Two interceptions, both resulted in scores (short field & all). Then he wastes all the time remaining in the second qtr & wastes half of the third qtr.... TD is good, but he's killing the clock.

That throw to Aj Green in the endzone, three inches inside & it's a TD from the 30 & he leaves almost 3 minutes on the clock.

With that score, they should have gone to hurry up all ready.

Ah.... now that looks like Texans Special teams. Is Coach Joe coaching the AFC coverage team?


I was surprised to see him pick up that 3rd & 10 with his legs.

[Premier]

lol how unnecessarily bad was schaubs TD throw to Cribbs? He had the opportunity to lead Cribbs to the ground, with a throw into his mid-section, which would have allowed cribbs to catch, cradle, and roll. Instead, Schaub throws a ball where cribbs has to reach up and behind his head to make an extremely difficult catch that ultimately was dropped when he hit the ground.. lol at the folks that argue schaubs great accuracy, based on completion numbers.. accuracy by its true definition, is not a trait schaub possesses.. you know the old drill where qbs throw the ball through a tire? well, schaub misses the tire completely..

[HJam72]

Originally Posted by Premier

lol how unnecessarily bad was schaubs TD throw to Cribbs? He had the opportunity to lead Cribbs to the ground, with a throw into his mid-section, which would have allowed cribbs to catch, cradle, and roll. Instead, Schaub throws a ball where cribbs has to reach up and behind his head to make an extremely difficult catch that ultimately was dropped when he hit the ground.. lol at the folks that argue schaubs great accuracy, based on completion numbers.. accuracy by its true definition, is not a trait schaub possess.. you know the old drill where qbs throw the ball through a tire? well, schaub misses the tire completely..

Yes, but he never ever throws it too hard.

[buddyboy]

Originally Posted by Premier

the whole "with who?" argument is just as flawed as "anybody but schaub". at some point youre going to have to take a risk and gamble on an unproven commodity. the obvious choices arent going to ever be available. once you really accept that schaub isnt the guy, you have to do something. if you keep asking "with who?" then we we'll keep doing the same thing over and over and schaub will never get replaced. then after 3 more years are flushed down the toilet and 3-4 more mid-round qbs prove to be studs, it will be too late..

The situation I keep reliving is the Rockets; being stuck in mediocrity and fans constantly demanding a "superstar" and then complaining with Morey's attempts failed.

Yeah, we (the Rockets) could have tanked. Tanking has been proven to be the best chance at getting a superstar. Tanking has also led to some of the most pathetic franchises ever (the Bobcats).

Also, how many mid-round qbs have proven to be studs? Russell Wilson is a rookie, you can't call him a stud yet (look at how great Cam and Matt Stafford have been after promising starts). For every Russell Wilson, there are two Kevin Kolbs (or more). Even first round QBs are dangerous (Carr/Ponder/Gabbert).

[GP]

Originally Posted by Premier

lol how unnecessarily bad was schaubs TD throw to Cribbs? He had the opportunity to lead Cribbs to the ground, with a throw into his mid-section, which would have allowed cribbs to catch, cradle, and roll. Instead, Schaub throws a ball where cribbs has to reach up and behind his head to make an extremely difficult catch that ultimately was dropped when he hit the ground.. lol at the folks that argue schaubs great accuracy, based on completion numbers.. accuracy by its true definition, is not a trait schaub possesses.. you know the old drill where qbs throw the ball through a tire? well, schaub misses the tire completely..

I am very guilty of having argued, earlier in the season this year, that Schaub was intentionally placing footballs where only HIS guys could reach them.

I 100% believed it was a taught technique in Gary's offense. He did it, and still does it, with such regularity, that it was the only conclusion to draw...since, ahem, we're always told that the NFL teams' coaches know more than we do.

But now, I'm convinced I gave the guy way more credit than he deserved.

I wish Gary would get the urge to really open up camp in 2013, to where the QBs all get a shot just like the freaking field goal kickers have been given open competitions. Only in the NFL can you see coaches allowing open competitions for kicker...but NOT for QB. That's not very damn practical.

At what stage did the NFL become a place where "Well, we gave x-player y-amount of money...so that means he's the defacto starter. Until he gets hurt, then hell we'll try out our other QBs who have been running scout team and not getting reps with starters all year." Seems logical.

[Texanmike02]

Can someone explain why I don't hear bitching about flaccos under throw in the SB? Oh his receivers are making plays.

Mike

[DX-TEX]

Originally Posted by Texanmike02

Can someone explain why I don't hear bitching about flaccos under throw in the SB? Oh his receivers are making plays.

Mike

And it was ****ing Jacoby jones!!

Hey football gods, let me spread my legs so you get a nice clean shot at my junk!

[BullBlitz]

Originally Posted by Texanmike02

Can someone explain why I don't hear bitching about flaccos under throw in the SB? Oh his receivers are making plays.

Mike

Maybe because he at least got them to the Super Bowl and made some great throws doing it.

Maybe because JJ is a true burner and outran the ball.

Who knows?

[Texanmike02]

Originally Posted by BullBlitz

Maybe because he at least got them to the Super Bowl and made some great throws doing it.

Maybe because JJ is a true burner and outran the ball.

Who knows?

Look how open the receivers are though. Holy crap. Receivers are giving him a place to throw the ball.

Mike

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Texanmike02

Can someone explain why I don't hear bitching about flaccos under throw in the SB? Oh his receivers are making plays.

Mike

That one he was looking for the PI on was pathetic.

But I don't have an issue with Matt under throwing the ball, its how often he under throws regardless how open his receiver is. Joe will throw his receiver open every now & then.


Damn Jacoby Jones all the way. 109 yards.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by BullBlitz

Maybe because JJ is a true burner and outran the ball.

Who knows?

Well this one isn't it because AJ is faster than JJ.

[amazing80]

joe rarely underthrows a guy, thus when he does do it, no one bitches.....matt rarely OVER THROWS guys, thus when he does it we are in shock