All Encompassing Matt Schaub Thread

[Luv_ya_blue]

Originally Posted by dream_team

At the same time:
- that team doesn't rely on their QB too much to win games
- Kaepernick was drafted to eventually become the starter
- if Smith doesn't get a concussion, people wouldn't even know who the 49ers backup QB is

With one of the top 2 or 3 RBs in the league, WE shouldn't rely on our QB to win games either.

WE have a good backup QB that should be getting groomed moreso than he is. JMO.

[bOODRO87]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

& I'm not seeing that. I watched the last three games in the last week looking for evidence of physical impairment & I'm just not seeing it. He moves well (for Matt), he plants on that foot with no hesitation. His arm didn't look any more dead to me than it ever did.

I'm not understanding the bold. Either you can move well or you can't. Charlie Batch showed more mobility/improvising this year at 38 years old.

[dream_team]

Originally Posted by Luv_ya_blue

With one of the top 2 or 3 RBs in the league, WE shouldn't rely on our QB to win games either.

You don't think we already do this? I think Kubiak wants to win games by running the ball, playing good defense, and winning the time of possession. At times, though, our defense and running game has faltered. This is where fans look to Schaub to carry this team, but he's simply not that type of QB. In fact, there aren't too many of those types of QBs in this league.

[Luv_ya_blue]

Originally Posted by dream_team

At the same time:
- that team doesn't rely on their QB too much to win games
- Kaepernick was drafted to eventually become the starter
- if Smith doesn't get a concussion, people wouldn't even know who the 49ers backup QB is

Originally Posted by dream_team

You don't think we already do this? I think Kubiak wants to win games by running the ball, playing good defense, and winning the time of possession. At times, though, our defense and running game has faltered. This is where fans look to Schaub to carry this team, but he's simply not that type of QB. In fact, there aren't too many of those types of QBs in this league.

I think that we depend on Schaub to pull rabbits out of his hat (ie: get us 6 points rather than the accepted 3) when it seems that an average to above average QB could do much better.

The offense has to trust and believe in their leader--and contrary to what they say publicly, I just don't see that in their play.

[Jules Winnfield]

its sad and just plain pathetic how apprehensive Texans fans are from moving away from matt schaub.

As if it would be the end of the world if we got rid of schaub and no way we can get anybody better than a 31 year old glorified back up who barely won his first ever playoff game courtesy of a missed pass by 2 year veteran (2 playoff seasons) andy dalton.

Why are yall so scared to get a new quarterback?

Its not as if Schaub set such a high bar.

[Luv_ya_blue]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

its sad and just plain pathetic how apprehensive Texans fans are from moving away from matt schaub.

As if it would be the end of the world if we got rid of schaub and no way we can get anybody better than a 31 year old glorified back up who barely won his first ever playoff game courtesy of a missed pass by 2 year veteran (2 playoff seasons) andy dalton.

Why are yall so scared to get a new quarterback?

Its not as if Schaub set such a high bar.

Who exactly are you talking to??
There is no shortage of Schaub vitriole on this message board.

If you're going to make such goofy statements, at least do the rest of us the honor of quoting someone you're speaking to or about--so that we can have some clue of where you're coming from.

[Jules Winnfield]

Originally Posted by Luv_ya_blue

Who exactly are you talking to??
There is no shortage of Schaub vitriole on this message board.

If you're going to make such goofy statements, at least do the rest of us the honor of quoting someone you're speaking to or about--so that we can have some clue of where you're coming from.

goofy?

before we hit our losing streak at the end of the season there were still stauch matt schaub defenders all over houston. Just like the entire city of houston wanted kubiak gone then he puts up one winning season because wade and he's suddenly a offensive guru.

but you're just gonna pretend that never happened right? Ive been following sports long enough to know how this goes. This is what fans do. but when things were going good yea we can win with schaub then when things go bad "ooh yea that matt schaub and gary kubiak need to go." Pretend they were in the know all along

You're not fooling anybody.

I dont need to quote anybody to post an accurate statement on an insternet message board. That's not a requirement. I can post my thoughts without quoting anybody.

deal with it.

[Luv_ya_blue]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

goofy?

before we hit our losing streak at the end of the season there were still stauch matt schaub defenders all over houston. Just like the entire city of houston wanted kubiak gone then he puts up one winning season because wade and he's suddenly a offensive guru.

but you're just gonna pretend that never happened right? Ive been following sports long enough to know how this goes. This is what fans do. but when things were going good yea we can win with schaub then when things go bad "ooh yea that matt schaub and gary kubiak need to go." Pretend they were in the know all along

You're not fooling anybody.

I dont need to quote anybody to post an accurate statement on an insternet message board. That's not a requirement. I can post my thoughts without quoting anybody.

deal with it.

My fault.
Just saw your start date and post count.
Carry on.

[Jules Winnfield]

Originally Posted by Luv_ya_blue

My fault.
Just saw your start date and post count.
Carry on.

what does that have to do with anything i just posted?

yea its your fault for not having the mental capacity to come back with a football rebuttal but instead look for ways to discredit and trivialize a post because you cant come up with a football rebuttal.

[Luv_ya_blue]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

what does that have to do with anything i just posted?

yea its your fault for not having the mental capacity to come back with a football rebuttal but instead look for ways to discredit and trivialize a post because you cant come up with a football rebuttal.

Exactly right.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

what does that have to do with anything i just posted?

yea its your fault for not having the mental capacity to come back with a football rebuttal but instead look for ways to discredit and trivialize a post because you cant come up with a football rebuttal.

Most everyone here agrees with you.

But you keep acting like you're the only one on the anybody but Schaub bandwagon.

You're preaching to the choir.

There are more people here that agrees with you than not.

Why do you post as if there is overwhelming support for Matt Schaub here. There isn't.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by bOODRO87

I'm not understanding the bold. Either you can move well or you can't. Charlie Batch showed more mobility/improvising this year at 38 years old.

Some folks are saying he has even less mobility than he had before the injury. I'm saying I do not see that. He moves as well as he ever has. He plants on his left foot as well as he ever has. He pushes off his left foot as well as he ever has.

[buddyboy]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

goofy?

before we hit our losing streak at the end of the season there were still stauch matt schaub defenders all over houston. Just like the entire city of houston wanted kubiak gone then he puts up one winning season because wade and he's suddenly a offensive guru.

but you're just gonna pretend that never happened right? Ive been following sports long enough to know how this goes. This is what fans do. but when things were going good yea we can win with schaub then when things go bad "ooh yea that matt schaub and gary kubiak need to go." Pretend they were in the know all along

You're not fooling anybody.

I dont need to quote anybody to post an accurate statement on an insternet message board. That's not a requirement. I can post my thoughts without quoting anybody.

deal with it.

What's pathetic is the "anyone but Matt Schaub" boat. THIS is what fans do. They convince themselves that the grass is greener, that for some reason, their team is the only team suffering and that any change is good change.

I agree that Matt Schaub can be replaced. In fact, if a replacement comes along that will improve this team, I am ALL FOR IT.

Show me that replacement waiting to be realistically signed/traded for/drafted and I'll be all over that. Until then, Schaub is our best bet.

[dream_team]

Originally Posted by buddyboy

What's pathetic is the "anyone but Matt Schaub" boat. THIS is what fans do. They convince themselves that the grass is greener, that for some reason, their team is the only team suffering and that any change is good change.

I agree that Matt Schaub can be replaced. In fact, if a replacement comes along that will improve this team, I am ALL FOR IT.

Show me that replacement waiting to be realistically signed/traded for/drafted and I'll be all over that. Until then, Schaub is our best bet.

Agree 100%!

This is what I'm saying to most of my friends asking for Schaub to be replaced. "With who!?" Who can we REALISTICALLY replace Schaub with that will be significantly better?

[Vinny]

This is the same argument that Seachicken fans had as Hasselbeck aged. Same kind of quarterback, same kind of issues for the team and the fans. We've kinda turned into the Hasselbeck Seahawks.

[dream_team]

Originally Posted by Vinny

This is the same argument that Seachicken fans had as Hasselbeck aged. Same kind of quarterback, same kind of issues for the team and the fans. We've kinda turned into the Hasselbeck Seahawks.

So do you suggest we do the same thing as the Seahawks?
1. Let Schaub (Hasselbeck) go
2. Bring in a young QB (Jackson) with potential, but to have that blow up in our face and waste a whole season.
3. Overpay a free agent QB (Flynn)
4. Draft a QB in the 3rd round and hope we get lucky (Wilson)

On a side note, Hasselbeck was able to get his team to the SuperBowl and was screwed by the refs.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by dream_team

So do you suggest we do the same thing as the Seahawks?
1. Let Schaub (Hasselbeck) go
2. Bring in a young QB (Jackson) with potential, but to have that blow up in our face and waste a whole season.
3. Overpay a free agent QB (Flynn)
4. Draft a QB in the 3rd round and hope we get lucky (Wilson)

On a side note, Hasselbeck was able to get his team to the SuperBowl and was screwed by the refs.

it's moot....we already extended our Hasslebeck like they could have, but didn't.

[bOODRO87]

Teddy Bridgewater in '14. Give up whatever it takes to get him. Schaub gets another year or two to prove himself and we draft a stud. That should please both sides of the QB argument.

[Luv_ya_blue]

Originally Posted by bOODRO87

Teddy Bridgewater in '14. Give up whatever it takes to get him. Schaub gets another year or two to prove himself and we draft a stud. That should please both sides of the QB argument.

[Premier]

the whole "with who?" argument is just as flawed as "anybody but schaub". at some point youre going to have to take a risk and gamble on an unproven commodity. the obvious choices arent going to ever be available. once you really accept that schaub isnt the guy, you have to do something. if you keep asking "with who?" then we we'll keep doing the same thing over and over and schaub will never get replaced. then after 3 more years are flushed down the toilet and 3-4 more mid-round qbs prove to be studs, it will be too late..